Auckland Summer
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@JK not sure too many places are made for the rainfall many parts of the North Island has received in the past 6 months, just awful.
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@taniwharugby said in Auckland Summer:
@JK not sure too many places are made for the rainfall many parts of the North Island has received in the past 6 months, just awful.
Yeah so bad.
Perhaps need to go somewhere else in NZ that doesnt get this semi tropical weather
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@taniwharugby said in Auckland Summer:
@JK not sure too many places are made for the rainfall many parts of the North Island has received in the past 6 months, just awful.
Being just looking at that, if I've read it correctly, average May in Auckland is usually 100-112mm. So far today we've had 60mm.
Forecast is for 72mm, but can see it going past that.
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@Kirwan I posted in the extreme weather thread last week before the last lot of.rain, Whangarei had received 80% of its annual rainfall, think it was Napier at the highest on 110% of annual...Auckland/Coromandel has to be up round there too, add last weels and this week rain too...
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@taniwharugby said in Auckland Summer:
@Kirwan I posted in the extreme weather thread last week before the last lot of.rain, Whangarei had received 80% of its annual rainfall, think it was Napier at the highest on 110% of annual...Auckland/Coromandel has to be up round there too, add last weels and this week rain too...
Insane.
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@voodoo I really hope so, but from what I have heard of that cave (I havent been in there for 30 years, so dont remember it well enough) I'd say very slim....only hope is they supposedly had all the gears, so one presumes this includes wetsuit, life jacket, head lamp, so maybe he has found a spot high up in one of the passages...
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@taniwharugby Man that's grim. What the hell was that school thinking?
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@taniwharugby Holy crap - check out couple of days in Feb!
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Allegedly switching the activity from rock climbing (this part at least makes sense) to caving (ummm WTF?) with the recent rainfall, and the weather warnings for yesterday. Exceptionally sad news.
Boy slipped from classmate's grip in cave and was swept away
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@Donsteppa said in Auckland Summer:
Allegedly switching the activity from rock climbing (this part at least makes sense) to caving (ummm WTF?) with the recent rainfall, and the weather warnings for yesterday. Exceptionally sad news.
Boy slipped from classmate's grip in cave and was swept away
Yeah I would imagine someone would love to take that decision back
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@canefan said in Auckland Summer:
@Donsteppa said in Auckland Summer:
Allegedly switching the activity from rock climbing (this part at least makes sense) to caving (ummm WTF?) with the recent rainfall, and the weather warnings for yesterday. Exceptionally sad news.
Boy slipped from classmate's grip in cave and was swept away
Yeah I would imagine someone would love to take that decision back
Yep, horrendous for the family & friends, and a lifetime of regret for the School decision maker(s).
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@Donsteppa said in Auckland Summer:
@canefan said in Auckland Summer:
@Donsteppa said in Auckland Summer:
Allegedly switching the activity from rock climbing (this part at least makes sense) to caving (ummm WTF?) with the recent rainfall, and the weather warnings for yesterday. Exceptionally sad news.
Boy slipped from classmate's grip in cave and was swept away
Yeah I would imagine someone would love to take that decision back
Yep, horrendous for the family & friends, and a lifetime of regret for the School decision maker(s).
There are no winners in this situation. You take those regrets to your grave
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Only thing I can think is that the initial forecast had the heavier stuff arriving later in the day, but the actual rain at the time was worse than the forecast too....
So heartbreaking for the family
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@taniwharugby said in Auckland Summer:
Only thing I can think is that the initial forecast had the heavier stuff arriving later in the day, but the actual rain at the time was worse than the forecast too....
So heartbreaking for the family
The rain definitely arrived earlier than predicted in Auckland central. I guess it's a bit like boating, you don't quibble over a few hours. You have to leave a wider margin
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Lawyers and likely the courts are going to be kept busy on this one.... Dad who stopped son going on fatal Abbey Caves trip asked school if they'd go ahead in rain
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@Donsteppa said in Auckland Summer:
Lawyers and likely the courts are going to be kept busy on this one....
They bloody should. I'm frankly devastated by this; it seems the height of lack of risk assessment and good decision making. It's like the canyoning fatality of 15 years ago; risk assessments are meant to underpin activity, but they were clearly fundamentally deficient. This is the sort of decision that people wind up in jail for, and on the face of it seems very appropriate.
I'll take the opportunity to remind people that:
- Pike River and White Island both had 'award winning' health and safety systems, and
- fatalities in workplaces have not dropped that much since the introduction of the new H+S laws (my judgement)
Unfortunately we seem to wind up in paperwork hell, without actually getting, understanding and assessing the real risks to people.
Annual fatalities: https://data.worksafe.govt.nz/graph/summary/fatalities
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@nzzp no winners in this at all.
Be so tough on Whanau, friends...is alot of anger, have been people needing to be restrained by police, security at the school.
Had heard one teacher already resigned, I expect the Principal will go to as she has a responsibility under 'new' H & S legislation, I have heard a harrowing story of someone who was with the boy just prior to him being lost, that kid will be traumatised!
