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2023 New Zealand U20s

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  • TimT Tim

    Is making NZ U20 very important for professional success any more? Is it enough to play Super Rugby U20 and be on a contract pathway now?

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    @Tim Maybe not important for professional success, but I know from several players that they value wearing that black jersey. For some, it will be the only black jersey they'll ever wear (or the most senior black jersey, if they've played for NZ Schools).

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      Hurricanes U20 first five-eighth Isaiah Armstrong Ravula (Richie Mo'unga's nephew) didn't make the NZ U20 WTG. He has now been called up by Fiji U20.

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        Article about Cooper Flanders.

        https://www.rugbypass.com/news/i-got-sick-of-passing-the-ball-former-halfbacks-journey-to-new-zealand-u20s-selection-as-a-no-8/

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          https://www.allblacks.com/news/new-zealand-under-20-to-play-two-matches-against-the-junior-wallabies-in-wellington/

          MATCH ONE: NZ U20 v Junior Wallabies - Monday 29 May, 2.00PM (NZST), NZCIS, WELLINGTON
          MATCH TWO: NZ U20 v Junior Wallabies – Saturday 3 June, 4.30PM (NZST), Sky Stadium, WELLINGTON

          • The second match will be played as a curtain raiser to the Hurricanes v Crusaders and kicks off Saturday 3 June at 4.30PM (NZST), at SKY Stadium. This match will be broadcast live and exclusive on Sky Sport.

          • The final New Zealand Under 20 squad of 30 for the World Rugby U20 Championship in South Africa will be announced following their second match in Wellington, on Monday 5 June.

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            Looks like all the Super Rugby players were at the leadership camp over the last week - Lakai, Springer, Hotham, Godfrey etc so obviously no longer available for their respective Super sides going forward.

            Seems like a talented side, hopefully they can do the business.

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            • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

              Looks like all the Super Rugby players were at the leadership camp over the last week - Lakai, Springer, Hotham, Godfrey etc so obviously no longer available for their respective Super sides going forward.

              Seems like a talented side, hopefully they can do the business.

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              @Canes4life said in 2023 New Zealand U20s:

              Looks like all the Super Rugby players were at the leadership camp over the last week - Lakai, Springer, Hotham, Godfrey etc so obviously no longer available for their respective Super sides going forward.

              Seems like a talented side, hopefully they can do the business.

              Isn't Laidlaw still the men's sevens coach? I thought he was at the Toulouse event.

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              • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

                @Canes4life said in 2023 New Zealand U20s:

                Looks like all the Super Rugby players were at the leadership camp over the last week - Lakai, Springer, Hotham, Godfrey etc so obviously no longer available for their respective Super sides going forward.

                Seems like a talented side, hopefully they can do the business.

                Isn't Laidlaw still the men's sevens coach? I thought he was at the Toulouse event.

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                @kiwi_expat true, maybe this was earlier in the year so in that case ignore the above.

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                  Does anyone know whether you can actually go to NZCIS to watch the game? Do they allow entry to spectators?

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                    Yeah you can walk up and watch but it's not suited to the biggest crowd as you can see in the video below.

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                      Hmmm...some of these innovations might be better in theory than in practice, particularly the lineout throws.

                      https://www.world.rugby/news/810553/rugbys-smart-ball-set-to-transform-match-officiating-at-the-world-rugby-u20-championship

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                        Why do I not like this idea very much? I not real comfortable with where we going with things like this.

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                        • Dan54D Dan54

                          Why do I not like this idea very much? I not real comfortable with where we going with things like this.

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                          @Dan54 Yeah, that tech will never work correctly - too many variables.

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                          • Dan54D Dan54

                            Why do I not like this idea very much? I not real comfortable with where we going with things like this.

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                            @Dan54

                            Yep some of that might slow the game down not speed it up,Lineout throws are one of those do we have any that are 100% accurate ?.
                            Nearly every line out may get blown up by the ref.

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                            • ChrisC Chris

                              @Dan54

                              Yep some of that might slow the game down not speed it up,Lineout throws are one of those do we have any that are 100% accurate ?.
                              Nearly every line out may get blown up by the ref.

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                              @Chris said in 2023 New Zealand U20s:

                              @Dan54

                              Yep some of that might slow the game down not speed it up,Lineout throws are one of those do we have any that are 100% accurate ?.
                              Nearly every line out may get blown up by the ref.

                              I would hope there is a tolerance.
                              I think that if the ref gets a beep in the ear to confirm a not straight throw (outside of tolerance), that will cut out a lot of argument. We do see a lot missed even at the top level.

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                                @Chris said in 2023 New Zealand U20s:

                                @Dan54

                                Yep some of that might slow the game down not speed it up,Lineout throws are one of those do we have any that are 100% accurate ?.
                                Nearly every line out may get blown up by the ref.

                                I would hope there is a tolerance.
                                I think that if the ref gets a beep in the ear to confirm a not straight throw (outside of tolerance), that will cut out a lot of argument. We do see a lot missed even at the top level.

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                                @Crucial

                                Yep you would hope so Tolerance I mean.Otherwise it could be painful.

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                                  Has anyone in Wellington had a sneaky look at their training camp? The first test vs Aust is on Monday.

                                  Obviously Hotham won't be involved.

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                                    I've got Monday off, so might head up the Valley for a bit of a look

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                                      Weird that there's been no announcement of a NZ side for this game considering it's tomorrow.

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                                        Strong side, good blend of U20’s last year and the U19’s who toured South Africa. A good number of Super players too. It’ll great to see how we fare against the Euro countries and SA.

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                                          Strong side, good blend of U20’s last year and the U19’s who toured South Africa. A good number of Super players too. It’ll great to see how we fare against the Euro countries and SA.

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                                          @TheMojoman have they named a match day 23?

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