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EPL 2022 / 2023

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  • broughieB broughie

    Absolute disgusting performance by Arsenal. No urgency. No quick transitions which has been a hallmark on their game and has helped create scoring. Their stars look boring and lacking creativity. Because Forest was able to get behind the ball it was White to Partay to Saka, cuts back in, to Odegaard, Partay, White and repeat at nauseam in an umbrella. Arteta should worry less about the "Arsenal family" and their new chocolate lab and feelings and book them into the roach motel to develop some anger and get them out of their comfort zone. Kliewer at left back was a failure or he is learning to play without penetration? Tierney should have started. At least he showed some willingness to get to the byline. Jesus can not play as a point man with 2 men marking him. Just no movement and so predictable. Worried if Edu brings in more pretty players like Fabio Viera.

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    @broughie A lot of Arsenal's problems today have to be down to Arteta and the formation he chose. Without Martinelli, everything went down the right and there was no space there. Forest got their early goal and basically camped out at the edge of their area and Arsenal played so slowly, they struggled to fashion any good chances, just passed the ball across the front of the Forest defence. Jesus showed something of why City let him go, he started playing like the talented little kid and whining when it didn't go his way. Saka has looked exhausted for a while which is unsurprising given the season he has had with no rotation and a World Cup.

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    • KiwiPieK KiwiPie

      @broughie A lot of Arsenal's problems today have to be down to Arteta and the formation he chose. Without Martinelli, everything went down the right and there was no space there. Forest got their early goal and basically camped out at the edge of their area and Arsenal played so slowly, they struggled to fashion any good chances, just passed the ball across the front of the Forest defence. Jesus showed something of why City let him go, he started playing like the talented little kid and whining when it didn't go his way. Saka has looked exhausted for a while which is unsurprising given the season he has had with no rotation and a World Cup.

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      @KiwiPie said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

      @broughie A lot of Arsenal's problems today have to be down to Arteta and the formation he chose. Without Martinelli, everything went down the right and there was no space there. Forest got their early goal and basically camped out at the edge of their area and Arsenal played so slowly, they struggled to fashion any good chances, just passed the ball across the front of the Forest defence. Jesus showed something of why City let him go, he started playing like the talented little kid and whining when it didn't go his way. Saka has looked exhausted for a while which is unsurprising given the season he has had with no rotation and a World Cup.

      Totally agree with this and kind of baffled at Arteta's adaptation to Martinelli's absence. He could have left Kliewer in the middle with Gabriel, Tierney left and White right, then the rest as is. It is hard to believe Arteta would tolerate the slow pace of play. But there was no change after halftime so perhaps he is too stubborn to change.

      I have posted before that we got Man City's sloppy seconds in Jesus and Zinchenko as Pepe knew their ceiling. Jesus likes to complain, as does Zinchenko, and they are not character type players Arsenal needs. Arsenal are lacking these types.

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        West Ham also now mathematically safe, so 2 out of Tigers, Leeds and Everton for relegation with Southampton already locked in.. Assuming Newcastle beat Leicester today as expected then current bottom three most likely.

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          https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-65483745

          I'm cheering for Luton Town - K Road almost makes Traf Park look good!!! 🙂

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            West Ham also now mathematically safe, so 2 out of Tigers, Leeds and Everton for relegation with Southampton already locked in.. Assuming Newcastle beat Leicester today as expected then current bottom three most likely.

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            @bayimports said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

            West Ham also now mathematically safe, so 2 out of Tigers Foxes, Leeds and Everton for relegation

            ahem

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              @bayimports said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

              West Ham also now mathematically safe, so 2 out of Tigers Foxes, Leeds and Everton for relegation

              ahem

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              @dogmeat lol good spotting..cross sport habit

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                Also Brighton will finish 6th and make the Europa League - fantastic achievement. Unless City beat Brighton by 5 and Villa beat Brighton by 6 on the final day. Villa need to beat Brighton to take 7th and the Conference spot leaving Spurs out of Europe altogether.

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                  Was listening to a pod that had supporters of Coventry and Luton previewing the play-off game. Interesting. Plenty of good-natured banter, but where it got interesting is their predictions for life in the EPL if they go up.

                  Coventry - we will be the worst team ever to be promoted. We only have two good players and they will be off in the summer. We have a lot of loan players too so would basically have to recruit a squad as Forest did but our owners don't invest. It will be torture for the fans and we will come straight back down

                  Luton. We will 'beat' Derby's record. We are totally unprepared and ill equipped for the Prem. We don't have good players but we have a great team ethic and work really hard, but that will get found out. We don't care. We will only last 12 months, but we aren't going to splurge on players we will stay within our salary cap and use the money a stay of even one year will generate to secure the clubs future for the next 100 years. TV and parachute payments will get us our new ground and we will settle comfortably back into the Championship.

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                    Leicester get a point at Newcastle who confirm Champions League footy next season as a result.

                    2 points separate Everton, Leicester Leeds

                    All are at home in the final round hosting Bournemouth, West Ham and Spurs
                    Leicester has by far the best goal diff.

                    If I had to pick I would have Leeds and then.....Leicester for the drop but really it could be any combination that gets relegated.

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                    • dogmeatD dogmeat

                      Was listening to a pod that had supporters of Coventry and Luton previewing the play-off game. Interesting. Plenty of good-natured banter, but where it got interesting is their predictions for life in the EPL if they go up.

                      Coventry - we will be the worst team ever to be promoted. We only have two good players and they will be off in the summer. We have a lot of loan players too so would basically have to recruit a squad as Forest did but our owners don't invest. It will be torture for the fans and we will come straight back down

                      Luton. We will 'beat' Derby's record. We are totally unprepared and ill equipped for the Prem. We don't have good players but we have a great team ethic and work really hard, but that will get found out. We don't care. We will only last 12 months, but we aren't going to splurge on players we will stay within our salary cap and use the money a stay of even one year will generate to secure the clubs future for the next 100 years. TV and parachute payments will get us our new ground and we will settle comfortably back into the Championship.

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                      @dogmeat said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

                      Was listening to a pod that had supporters of Coventry and Luton previewing the play-off game. Interesting. Plenty of good-natured banter, but where it got interesting is their predictions for life in the EPL if they go up.

                      Coventry - we will be the worst team ever to be promoted. We only have two good players and they will be off in the summer. We have a lot of loan players too so would basically have to recruit a squad as Forest did but our owners don't invest. It will be torture for the fans and we will come straight back down

                      Luton. We will 'beat' Derby's record. We are totally unprepared and ill equipped for the Prem. We don't have good players but we have a great team ethic and work really hard, but that will get found out. We don't care. We will only last 12 months, but we aren't going to splurge on players we will stay within our salary cap and use the money a stay of even one year will generate to secure the clubs future for the next 100 years. TV and parachute payments will get us our new ground and we will settle comfortably back into the Championship.

                      It's interesting - a club really could just keep the squad they have, pocket the cash and go back down with a huge profit. And even use the spare cash to get promoted again the year after.

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                      • dogmeatD dogmeat

                        Leicester get a point at Newcastle who confirm Champions League footy next season as a result.

                        2 points separate Everton, Leicester Leeds

                        All are at home in the final round hosting Bournemouth, West Ham and Spurs
                        Leicester has by far the best goal diff.

                        If I had to pick I would have Leeds and then.....Leicester for the drop but really it could be any combination that gets relegated.

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                        @dogmeat said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

                        Leicester get a point at Newcastle who confirm Champions League footy next season as a result.

                        2 points separate Everton, Leicester Leeds

                        All are at home in the final round hosting Bournemouth, West Ham and Spurs
                        Leicester has by far the best goal diff.

                        If I had to pick I would have Leeds and then.....Leicester for the drop but really it could be any combination that gets relegated.

                        I think Bournemouth are already preparing for their Vegas party.. cant see Everton dropping, but you never know

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                          @dogmeat said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

                          Leicester get a point at Newcastle who confirm Champions League footy next season as a result.

                          2 points separate Everton, Leicester Leeds

                          All are at home in the final round hosting Bournemouth, West Ham and Spurs
                          Leicester has by far the best goal diff.

                          If I had to pick I would have Leeds and then.....Leicester for the drop but really it could be any combination that gets relegated.

                          I think Bournemouth are already preparing for their Vegas party.. cant see Everton dropping, but you never know

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                          @bayimports BAH HUMBUG There's only one game that matters on the final Sunday.

                          Mitro will score a brace as Fulham go to Old Trafford and win 3-1 Redemption time baby 😉

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                            A draw should be enough for Everton but they cannot really play for it in case Leicester beats West Ham. Leeds are relying on the others to lose unless Leeds can beat Spurs by 3. Could be dramatic as only Spurs are playing for something and that something is the Euro-Conference - an early goal for Bournemouth or Leeds or Leicester and it is all on. Looking at the stats, Leicester went to Newcastle playing to not lose.

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                              Leicester get a point at Newcastle who confirm Champions League footy next season as a result.

                              2 points separate Everton, Leicester Leeds

                              All are at home in the final round hosting Bournemouth, West Ham and Spurs
                              Leicester has by far the best goal diff.

                              If I had to pick I would have Leeds and then.....Leicester for the drop but really it could be any combination that gets relegated.

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                              @dogmeat

                              Leicester reminded me of the all whites vs a decent team. A team with little genuine talent who park the bus and hope to nick a goal. Which Leicester almost did.

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                                The Champions League and Europa League places are confirmed now with ManU's win over Chelsea. Just the Europa Conference League place is up for grabs on the final day.

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                                  Only Leeds and Leicester have a worse record over the last 6 games than Chelsea

                                  Good luck managing that rabble. Like cleaning out the Augean Stables

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                                    Conference place runners and riders

                                    Villa on 58. Home to Brighton. Tough opponent with nothing to play for. Win to guarantee it, draw and both Spurs and Brentford can go past them.

                                    Spurs on 57. Away at Leeds. Shit opponent with everything to play for. Spurs might not even be desperate to qualify. Win and if Villa don't win then Spurs get it. Draw and need Villa to lose to finish above them.

                                    Brentford on 56. Home to Man City. Best opponent with nothing to play for. Have to win and if both Villa and Spurs don't win then they get into Europe for the first time ever.

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                                      Ha - Luton Town make it to the EPL.

                                      If I were them, I wouldn't spend much of the 10 million pounds they're planning to spend on facilities in the visitors dressing rooms! 🙂

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                                        It looks like Luton's transfer record is 2 million euro for Carlton Morris - suspect they will need to increase that just a little. Or maybe not, just pocket the cash and prepare for the future. Considering Forest spent 200m on transfer fees and that was just enough to stay up - not to mention their wage bill of close to 70m. Luton's total wage bill was apparently 10m this season - Forest spent that on Lingard alone.

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                                          Everton survive!

                                          Sad to see Leicester go down though.

                                          Annual horribilus for the famous CFC. Flush the dunny, move on

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