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All Blacks XV 2023

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  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

    an AB XV starting loose trio of Finau, Sotutu and Harmon would give our starting AB trio an absolute bath.

    oh for the days of the AB trial

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    @mariner4life almost everyone loves an upset, even at club level, last year in scrum training our 2's scrum demolished the 1's, was a huge wake up call for the 1's, a couple of people got a call up and other stepped up their game

    sometimes losses dont spark people into life...they still have their job...someone who can actually take their job shows them up one on one....that can do wonders

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      too many years ago, the Qld State cup was Country rep sides playing against Brisbane Premier Grade side, to mostly predictable results.

      We were actually leading one game at halftime, and the word is their Coach told them if they lost none of them would play prems again that year. Fuck we got pumped in the 2nd half. A large polynesian who went on to play many games for the Brumbies at #8 palmed me so hard i still have dents in my chest.

      Threats to spots is still the greatest motivator

      we won the fight though (not me obviously)

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      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

        too many years ago, the Qld State cup was Country rep sides playing against Brisbane Premier Grade side, to mostly predictable results.

        We were actually leading one game at halftime, and the word is their Coach told them if they lost none of them would play prems again that year. Fuck we got pumped in the 2nd half. A large polynesian who went on to play many games for the Brumbies at #8 palmed me so hard i still have dents in my chest.

        Threats to spots is still the greatest motivator

        we won the fight though (not me obviously)

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        @mariner4life exactly why the old adage about being harder to get out of the AB's than into it is so frustrating

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        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

          an AB XV starting loose trio of Finau, Sotutu and Harmon would give our starting AB trio an absolute bath.

          oh for the days of the AB trial

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          @mariner4life said in All Blacks XV:

          an AB XV starting loose trio of Finau, Sotutu and Harmon would give our starting AB trio an absolute bath.

          oh for the days of the AB trial

          Well they would compete, but hardly a bath, Jacobson, Cane and Savea would be better!

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          • Dan54D Dan54

            @mariner4life said in All Blacks XV:

            an AB XV starting loose trio of Finau, Sotutu and Harmon would give our starting AB trio an absolute bath.

            oh for the days of the AB trial

            Well they would compete, but hardly a bath, Jacobson, Cane and Savea would be better!

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            @Dan54 said in All Blacks XV:

            @mariner4life said in All Blacks XV:

            an AB XV starting loose trio of Finau, Sotutu and Harmon would give our starting AB trio an absolute bath.

            Well they would compete, but hardly a bath, Jacobson, Cane and Savea would be better!

            Hang on, is Jacobson the starting 6? In contention, but starting 6?
            As for who would win, don't know, but would love to see it!

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              Before he started getting injured all the time, I recall reading Jacobson was widely known for having the hardest shoulders going.

              Looks to be getting back to his best, so I wouldn't be averse to him against teams like Aus/Eng.

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              • BonesB Bones

                Before he started getting injured all the time, I recall reading Jacobson was widely known for having the hardest shoulders going.

                Looks to be getting back to his best, so I wouldn't be averse to him against teams like Aus/Eng.

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                @Bones He was discarded pretty quickly in 2021, so I wonder if the coaching group will see him as not being an option. They've done that with a few players. On the other hand, Ryan and Schmidt are there now.

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                • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                  @Dan54 said in All Blacks XV:

                  @mariner4life said in All Blacks XV:

                  an AB XV starting loose trio of Finau, Sotutu and Harmon would give our starting AB trio an absolute bath.

                  Well they would compete, but hardly a bath, Jacobson, Cane and Savea would be better!

                  Hang on, is Jacobson the starting 6? In contention, but starting 6?
                  As for who would win, don't know, but would love to see it!

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                  @nostrildamus said in All Blacks XV:

                  @Dan54 said in All Blacks XV:

                  @mariner4life said in All Blacks XV:

                  an AB XV starting loose trio of Finau, Sotutu and Harmon would give our starting AB trio an absolute bath.

                  Well they would compete, but hardly a bath, Jacobson, Cane and Savea would be better!

                  Hang on, is Jacobson the starting 6? In contention, but starting 6?
                  As for who would win, don't know, but would love to see it!

                  I think Jacobson is quite capable of starting at 6, and just saying I think that 3 would be at least as good as the opposing 3 named. I ctaually am a real fan of the idea of Finau at 6 in ABs though, but that wasn't what post was about.

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                  • Dan54D Dan54

                    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks XV:

                    @Dan54 said in All Blacks XV:

                    @mariner4life said in All Blacks XV:

                    an AB XV starting loose trio of Finau, Sotutu and Harmon would give our starting AB trio an absolute bath.

                    Well they would compete, but hardly a bath, Jacobson, Cane and Savea would be better!

                    Hang on, is Jacobson the starting 6? In contention, but starting 6?
                    As for who would win, don't know, but would love to see it!

                    I think Jacobson is quite capable of starting at 6, and just saying I think that 3 would be at least as good as the opposing 3 named. I ctaually am a real fan of the idea of Finau at 6 in ABs though, but that wasn't what post was about.

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                    @Dan54 said in All Blacks XV:
                    > I think Jacobson is quite capable of starting at 6, and just saying I think that 3 would be at least as good as the opposing 3 named. I ctaually am a real fan of the idea of Finau at 6 in ABs though, but that wasn't what post was about.

                    Oh I see I thought by starting 6 that meant who is seen as the incumbent-my bad.

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                      The 30-strong All Blacks XV squad is as follows (age, Super Rugby club, province):

                      Forwards:

                      Props
                      Jermaine Ainsley (28, Highlanders, Otago)
                      Oli Jager (27, Crusaders, Canterbury)
                      Tevita Mafileo (25, Hurricanes, Bay of Plenty)
                      Xavier Numia (24, Hurricanes, Wellington)
                      Aidan Ross (27, Chiefs, Bay of Plenty)

                      Hookers
                      Asafo Aumua (26, Hurricanes, Wellington)
                      Ricky Riccitelli (28, Blues, Taranaki)
                      Tyrone Thompson (23, Chiefs, Wellington)

                      Locks
                      Naitoa Ah Kuoi (23, Chiefs, Bay of Plenty)
                      Quinten Strange (26, Crusaders, Ta$man)
                      Isaia Walker-Leawere (26, Hurricanes, Hawke’s Bay)

                      Loose Forwards
                      Billy Harmon (28, Highlanders, Canterbury)
                      Akira Ioane (28, Blues, Auckland)
                      Du’Plessis Kirifi (26, Hurricanes, Wellington)
                      Christian Lio-Willie (24, Crusaders, Otago)
                      Pita Gus Sowakula (28, Chiefs, Taranaki)
                      Cameron Suafoa (27, Blues, North Harbour)

                      Backs:
                      Halfbacks
                      Folau Fakatava (23, Highlanders, Hawke’s Bay)
                      Brad Weber (32, Chiefs, Hawke’s Bay)

                      First-five-eighths
                      Brett Cameron (26, Hurricanes, Manawatū)
                      Stephen Perofeta (26, Blues, Taranaki)

                      Midfielders
                      Jack Goodhue (27, Crusaders, Northland)
                      Alex Nankivell (26, Chiefs, Ta$man)
                      Billy Proctor (24, Hurricanes, Wellington)
                      Bailyn Sullivan (24, Hurricanes, Waikato)

                      Outside Backs
                      Sam Gilbert (24, Highlanders, Otago)
                      AJ Lam (24, Blues, Auckland)
                      Ruben Love (22, Hurricanes, Wellington)
                      Etene Nanai-Seturo (23, Chiefs, Counties Manukau)
                      Jona Nareki (25, Highlanders, Otago)

                      The All Blacks XV assemble on 29 June, travelling to Tokyo where they compete for the 2023 Lipovitan-D Challenge Cup kicking off Saturday 8 July, at Tokyo’s historic Chichibunomiya Rugby Stadium in Tokyo before a second match on Saturday, July 15 at Egao Kenko Stadium in Kumamoto.

                      https://www.allblacks.com/news/all-blacks-xv-squad-named-for-japan-tour/

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                        Is Sotutu injured?

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                          Happy to see Etene Nanai-Seturo there.

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                            Is Sotutu injured?

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                            @mikedogz Nope.

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                              Haved they named this team on tv, yet?

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                              • StargazerS Stargazer

                                The 30-strong All Blacks XV squad is as follows (age, Super Rugby club, province):

                                Forwards:

                                Props
                                Jermaine Ainsley (28, Highlanders, Otago)
                                Oli Jager (27, Crusaders, Canterbury)
                                Tevita Mafileo (25, Hurricanes, Bay of Plenty)
                                Xavier Numia (24, Hurricanes, Wellington)
                                Aidan Ross (27, Chiefs, Bay of Plenty)

                                Hookers
                                Asafo Aumua (26, Hurricanes, Wellington)
                                Ricky Riccitelli (28, Blues, Taranaki)
                                Tyrone Thompson (23, Chiefs, Wellington)

                                Locks
                                Naitoa Ah Kuoi (23, Chiefs, Bay of Plenty)
                                Quinten Strange (26, Crusaders, Ta$man)
                                Isaia Walker-Leawere (26, Hurricanes, Hawke’s Bay)

                                Loose Forwards
                                Billy Harmon (28, Highlanders, Canterbury)
                                Akira Ioane (28, Blues, Auckland)
                                Du’Plessis Kirifi (26, Hurricanes, Wellington)
                                Christian Lio-Willie (24, Crusaders, Otago)
                                Pita Gus Sowakula (28, Chiefs, Taranaki)
                                Cameron Suafoa (27, Blues, North Harbour)

                                Backs:
                                Halfbacks
                                Folau Fakatava (23, Highlanders, Hawke’s Bay)
                                Brad Weber (32, Chiefs, Hawke’s Bay)

                                First-five-eighths
                                Brett Cameron (26, Hurricanes, Manawatū)
                                Stephen Perofeta (26, Blues, Taranaki)

                                Midfielders
                                Jack Goodhue (27, Crusaders, Northland)
                                Alex Nankivell (26, Chiefs, Ta$man)
                                Billy Proctor (24, Hurricanes, Wellington)
                                Bailyn Sullivan (24, Hurricanes, Waikato)

                                Outside Backs
                                Sam Gilbert (24, Highlanders, Otago)
                                AJ Lam (24, Blues, Auckland)
                                Ruben Love (22, Hurricanes, Wellington)
                                Etene Nanai-Seturo (23, Chiefs, Counties Manukau)
                                Jona Nareki (25, Highlanders, Otago)

                                The All Blacks XV assemble on 29 June, travelling to Tokyo where they compete for the 2023 Lipovitan-D Challenge Cup kicking off Saturday 8 July, at Tokyo’s historic Chichibunomiya Rugby Stadium in Tokyo before a second match on Saturday, July 15 at Egao Kenko Stadium in Kumamoto.

                                https://www.allblacks.com/news/all-blacks-xv-squad-named-for-japan-tour/

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                                @Stargazer has Tyrone moved back to Wellington

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                                  It looks like the All Blacks XV squad won't be announced live at the Breakdown, because the next segment is about SRP. Weird.

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                                  • WingerW Winger

                                    @Stargazer has Tyrone moved back to Wellington

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                                    @Winger Nope.

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                                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                                      Haved they named this team on tv, yet?

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                                      @Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

                                      Haved they named this team on tv, yet?

                                      No. Only mentioned that Sotutu missed out.

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                                        Happy to see Numia make it after a VG SRP. Also IWL. Bit surprised but he was VG earlier in the year

                                        Cameron should be there too. I'd prefer him to B Barrett but just never had enough game time. Likewise Proctor

                                        9 canes in total. 5 ABs. Good base for Laidlaw to work with next year (minus Savea)

                                        Maybe Flander could be considered unlucky. Along with Delany who maybe is one for next year

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                                        • WingerW Winger

                                          Happy to see Numia make it after a VG SRP. Also IWL. Bit surprised but he was VG earlier in the year

                                          Cameron should be there too. I'd prefer him to B Barrett but just never had enough game time. Likewise Proctor

                                          9 canes in total. 5 ABs. Good base for Laidlaw to work with next year (minus Savea)

                                          Maybe Flander could be considered unlucky. Along with Delany who maybe is one for next year

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                                          @Winger yeah I agree, Flanders had a big year but I feel like he's going to come into his own in 2024. Guys like Sangster and Delany are in the same boat IMO.

                                          Good to see Love get in despite not playing, we all know the quality that he brings from fullback so hopefully he can get a few minutes at this level before the NPC.

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