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2023 Hawke's Bay Representative Rugby

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    Only just saw this. Former Tui winger Cortez Te Pou has signed her first NRLW contract with the Dragons.

    https://twitter.com/sowwowofficial6/status/1640938310226018310

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      I have been keeping an eye on Tui players playing club rugby, because I noticed some names not appearing on team sheets. I haven't been able to find where Imij Hawkins (Zarn and Bailyn's cousin) has gone. More disturbing is that I've seen the name of super talented Harmony Kautai on the team sheets of Poneke in Wellington. Poached or moved there to be noticed for SR Aupiki? Or will she return? The last team sheet she appeared on are from April, so I'm still a bit hopeful that she'll return to the Bay and the Tui.

      I also hope that Teilah Ferguson doesn't do the opposite, like last year. Playing for Tech, then moving to Wellington for FPC. I really hope she stays this time and plays for the Tui again.

      Also, the youth competition Amelia Pasikala was playing league in in Oz has finished. She's about to return home, but I'm not sure it's just for a holiday and family visit, or whether she'll play club rugby and FPC for us again. I really hope the latter! From all the reports and clips that I've seen, she's made a huge impression in league and there's a good chance she'll be snapped up by a NRLW team; if not this year, maybe next year.

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        I have been keeping an eye on Tui players playing club rugby, because I noticed some names not appearing on team sheets. I haven't been able to find where Imij Hawkins (Zarn and Bailyn's cousin) has gone. More disturbing is that I've seen the name of super talented Harmony Kautai on the team sheets of Poneke in Wellington. Poached or moved there to be noticed for SR Aupiki? Or will she return? The last team sheet she appeared on are from April, so I'm still a bit hopeful that she'll return to the Bay and the Tui.

        I also hope that Teilah Ferguson doesn't do the opposite, like last year. Playing for Tech, then moving to Wellington for FPC. I really hope she stays this time and plays for the Tui again.

        Also, the youth competition Amelia Pasikala was playing league in in Oz has finished. She's about to return home, but I'm not sure it's just for a holiday and family visit, or whether she'll play club rugby and FPC for us again. I really hope the latter! From all the reports and clips that I've seen, she's made a huge impression in league and there's a good chance she'll be snapped up by a NRLW team; if not this year, maybe next year.

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        @Stargazer Whatever happened to my favourite player in the number 26 jersey from a couple of seasons ago? Think she might have been in the Sth Island Super Rugby team squad in 2022 but seems to have disappeared from there.

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          @Stargazer Whatever happened to my favourite player in the number 26 jersey from a couple of seasons ago? Think she might have been in the Sth Island Super Rugby team squad in 2022 but seems to have disappeared from there.

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          @Higgins Do you mean big prop Ashley (Moomooga) Palu? She's back playing club rugby for Hastings, so hopefully she'll stay and play for the Tui again (and not go back to Canterbury). She also played for Matatū, this year.

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            @Higgins Do you mean big prop Ashley (Moomooga) Palu? She's back playing club rugby for Hastings, so hopefully she'll stay and play for the Tui again (and not go back to Canterbury). She also played for Matatū, this year.

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            @Stargazer Yeah, that's her. Apart from watching a lot of the Championship Final won by my ladies against Clive I had not seen any of the ladies rugby (the kick of times/venues not fitting in with my schedule) so was not aware of my favourite player's re-appearance.

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                @Number-10 Great to see Ashley Palu, Teilah Ferguson and especially Amelia Pasikala in that squad. It also seems to confirm we've lost Harmony Kautai.

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                  In addition to the Magpies and Tui wtgs playing a preseason game tomorrow (as posted in the Magpies thread), the Central Hawke's Bay sub union also plays a preseason game against Wairarapa Bush for the Stu Smith Memorial Cup. Kick-off is at 2.00pm at Central Park, Waipukurau.

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                    The Tui play another preseason game, this Saturday (24 June 2023), against Manawatū. I think it's in Waipukurau.

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                      So Amelia Pasikala won't play for the Tui after all. This doesn't surprise me one bit, having seen clips of her playing for the Canterbury Bulldogs in the Tarsha Gale Cup. Big loss to the Tui.

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                        The Tui play another preseason game, this Saturday (24 June 2023), against Manawatū. I think it's in Waipukurau.

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                        @Stargazer said in 2023 Hawke's Bay Representative Rugby:

                        The Tui play another preseason game, this Saturday (24 June 2023), against Manawatū. I think it's in Waipukurau.

                        I had totally forgotten about this game; no wonder, with the HBRU not informing us about any of the preseason games thus far. And you guessed it (or not), the Hawke's Bay XV team also played another preseason game against Manawatū. I'll post the relevant bits about that game in the Magpies thread.

                        The full time score of the women's game is a bit of a mystery. On the Manawatū Rugby Facebook page it says that the final score was 29-19 in favour of the Tui. According to the article below, the Tui won 40 - 0 (HT: 26 - 0).

                        Coaches were philosophical with regard to the weather turning wintery last month during the men’s and women’s senior rugby trials.

                        “It’ll be good experience playing in the wet” was their response, as a cold wet southerly swept Dannevirke just as the wāhines’ game started at Rugby Park.

                        That experience will help during the national competition, to start this month.

                        There was keen interest from Tararua District in the Manawatū Wahine Development Squad as 11 of the 23-strong squad came from Bush and Wairarapa Wahine Toa teams.

                        From Bush were Jessica Bills, Katelyn Donaldson, Ruby-May Ngaruhe, Martha Broughton, Samantha Olsen, Kaia Walker-Waitoa and Claudia Smith.

                        Wairarapa Wahine Toa fielded Anna Meek, Missy Williams, Annemieke van Vliet and Xanthe Somerville.

                        Unfortunately for Manawatū, they started into the strong wind and Hawke’s Bay capitalised, scoring two tries in the first 10 minutes.

                        One try was the first of three by prop Ashley Palu, who also created two try-assists. She had recently played for the South Island Matatu team and was relatively fresh from the Skye Super Rugby Aupiki competition, in which her team won the final.

                        The game was played with great pace, a wet ball causing a few passes to go to ground, but the power of a big pack, good tactical kicking with the wind and slick wingers had Hawke’s Bay up 26-0 at halftime.

                        Manawatū turned with the wind and, after conceding a try early on the game, became a good even contest. This was a trial for players on both teams and there was plenty of determination, skill and talent on both sides – plenty to work with, in the words of both coaches.

                        A try in the last minute to Hawke’s Bay made the final score 40-0, which in no way was a fair reflection of play, especially in the second half.

                        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/news/wet-and-cold-trial-run-for-senior-rugby/BUVNN5JWKZG35OAP6HTVEXYEYE/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR3VpEXtekcVG08BOdNiWN6tvhxwSGm5qAXKLwYpubaha00GMbIxzWz6Xco#Echobox=1687749891

                        Edit: I did some more digging and on the Manawatū website both teams are described as development teams. It's confusing, because the article in the HBT says that Ashley Palu played for the team on Saturday and she has several FPC seasons under her belt, as well as two seasons with Matatu. The HBT may be wrong though, because one of the photos in the article has a caption that suggests the prop in the photo is Ashley Palu, but that's definitely not her.

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                          @Stargazer said in 2023 Hawke's Bay Representative Rugby:

                          The Tui play another preseason game, this Saturday (24 June 2023), against Manawatū. I think it's in Waipukurau.

                          I had totally forgotten about this game; no wonder, with the HBRU not informing us about any of the preseason games thus far. And you guessed it (or not), the Hawke's Bay XV team also played another preseason game against Manawatū. I'll post the relevant bits about that game in the Magpies thread.

                          The full time score of the women's game is a bit of a mystery. On the Manawatū Rugby Facebook page it says that the final score was 29-19 in favour of the Tui. According to the article below, the Tui won 40 - 0 (HT: 26 - 0).

                          Coaches were philosophical with regard to the weather turning wintery last month during the men’s and women’s senior rugby trials.

                          “It’ll be good experience playing in the wet” was their response, as a cold wet southerly swept Dannevirke just as the wāhines’ game started at Rugby Park.

                          That experience will help during the national competition, to start this month.

                          There was keen interest from Tararua District in the Manawatū Wahine Development Squad as 11 of the 23-strong squad came from Bush and Wairarapa Wahine Toa teams.

                          From Bush were Jessica Bills, Katelyn Donaldson, Ruby-May Ngaruhe, Martha Broughton, Samantha Olsen, Kaia Walker-Waitoa and Claudia Smith.

                          Wairarapa Wahine Toa fielded Anna Meek, Missy Williams, Annemieke van Vliet and Xanthe Somerville.

                          Unfortunately for Manawatū, they started into the strong wind and Hawke’s Bay capitalised, scoring two tries in the first 10 minutes.

                          One try was the first of three by prop Ashley Palu, who also created two try-assists. She had recently played for the South Island Matatu team and was relatively fresh from the Skye Super Rugby Aupiki competition, in which her team won the final.

                          The game was played with great pace, a wet ball causing a few passes to go to ground, but the power of a big pack, good tactical kicking with the wind and slick wingers had Hawke’s Bay up 26-0 at halftime.

                          Manawatū turned with the wind and, after conceding a try early on the game, became a good even contest. This was a trial for players on both teams and there was plenty of determination, skill and talent on both sides – plenty to work with, in the words of both coaches.

                          A try in the last minute to Hawke’s Bay made the final score 40-0, which in no way was a fair reflection of play, especially in the second half.

                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/news/wet-and-cold-trial-run-for-senior-rugby/BUVNN5JWKZG35OAP6HTVEXYEYE/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR3VpEXtekcVG08BOdNiWN6tvhxwSGm5qAXKLwYpubaha00GMbIxzWz6Xco#Echobox=1687749891

                          Edit: I did some more digging and on the Manawatū website both teams are described as development teams. It's confusing, because the article in the HBT says that Ashley Palu played for the team on Saturday and she has several FPC seasons under her belt, as well as two seasons with Matatu. The HBT may be wrong though, because one of the photos in the article has a caption that suggests the prop in the photo is Ashley Palu, but that's definitely not her.

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                          @Stargazer Is there any local Dannevirke free community newspaper as they may have a report?

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                            @Stargazer Is there any local Dannevirke free community newspaper as they may have a report?

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                            @Higgins Ihaven't been able to find any online.

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                              The Hawke's Bay U19 team has been named. Not surprised to see two Magpies in this team, Tom Allen and Patrick Tuifua, as they're both in their first year out of school.

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                              Some good players in the squad, this year, and a fair bit of length in the second row, with both Alllen twins named.

                              Other players to keep an eye on are halfback Kade Manuel, first fives Jordan Soli and Kobe Deacon, winger Bryson Pakoti-Crawfored (Hurricanes U20) and some frontrow power in Newlands, Fonohema and Tevita. Not sure where Kingshouse Tupuola playes these days; at school, he played both at hooker and at number 8.

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                                Team to play Auckland tomorrow at Hawke's Bay Regional Sports Park (12.05pm).

                                Some familiar names, some new.
                                Teilah Ferguson's mum is back in the Tui squad. IIRC, in Teilah's debut year for the Tui, Julie played as well. Now that Teilah's back in the Bay, her mum is back in the squad as well.

                                The player in the 23 jersey wasn't in the FPC squad named earlier. She looks incredibly young on the Tui squad page, so maybe they were still waiting to get dispensation from NZR (required for 16-year-olds). The same applies to a few other added players.

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                                  Team to play Auckland tomorrow at Hawke's Bay Regional Sports Park (12.05pm).

                                  Some familiar names, some new.
                                  Teilah Ferguson's mum is back in the Tui squad. IIRC, in Teilah's debut year for the Tui, Julie played as well. Now that Teilah's back in the Bay, her mum is back in the squad as well.

                                  The player in the 23 jersey wasn't in the FPC squad named earlier. She looks incredibly young on the Tui squad page, so maybe they were still waiting to get dispensation from NZR (required for 16-year-olds). The same applies to a few other added players.

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                                  @Stargazer Disappointed to see my favourite Number 26 has not made the matchday 23.

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                                    @Stargazer Disappointed to see my favourite Number 26 has not made the matchday 23.

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                                    @Higgins Yeah, me too! She's always good for a try! Maybe she's injured?

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                                      From the Hawke's Bay Māori Rugby - Te Matau a Māui FB page:

                                      Very pleased to announce the 2023 Te Matau a Maui Tane squad, with their first game against Wairoa Sub-Union at Lambton Square, Wairoa on Saturday 29th July, 2.30pm kick-off. Congratulations to all players on your selection.

                                      Coaches:

                                      Murdoch Paewai, Mutu Ngarimu, Albe Baker, Andre Taurerewa.

                                      Physio: Blake Taylor

                                      Manager: Tom Blake

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                                        I don't recall seeing Hisamitsu Shimada, Yuhei Sugiyama and Ryo Kikkawa during my stay up in the Bay and I saw all teams play bar MAC, Pirates and Havelock. Does anyone know anything about these guys? Come to think of it Bear WIlliams is also an unknown name to me.
                                        Looks to be a touch short in the locking department, at least in numbers.

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                                          I don't recall seeing Hisamitsu Shimada, Yuhei Sugiyama and Ryo Kikkawa during my stay up in the Bay and I saw all teams play bar MAC, Pirates and Havelock. Does anyone know anything about these guys? Come to think of it Bear WIlliams is also an unknown name to me.
                                          Looks to be a touch short in the locking department, at least in numbers.

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                                          @Higgins Those Japanese players must be here on some special arrangement. Many provinces have Japanese players on some kind of development contract. All three are players from Japanese League One clubs: Hisamitsu Shimada from Red Hurricanes Osaka, Yuhei Sugiyama from Toshiba Brave Lupus Tokyo and Ryo Kikkawa from [Hino Red Dolphins](Ryo Kikkawa). It's a weird one, because they're not even that young. I hope they're just added to the squad and don't take the place of a local player, but it's possible that the player movement isn't in one direction only. Maybe some Hawke's Bay players will get an opportunity at the respective clubs in Japan?

                                          Bear Williams last played for Cornish Pirates. If you click that link, you'll also see the name of Shae Tucker, a Napier lad who played one game for the Magpies in 2018, which I can't remember at all. He played 4 seasons for Cornish Pirates. Maybe Tucker is responsible for Williams ending up here for some kind of OE?

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