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Hurricanes 2024

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  • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

    @Canes4life

    team for next year?

    Numia
    Aumua
    Lomax
    Sangster
    IWL
    Delany
    Kirifi
    Flanders
    Roigard
    Cameron
    Naholo
    Barrett
    Proctor
    Moorby
    Love

    Mafileo
    Devery
    Tosi
    Howden
    Iose
    Perenara
    Sullivan
    Umaga-Jensen

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    @kiwi_expat not a bad starting side at all.

    On the bench I would have Godfrey as 10/15 reserve, with Sullivan covering midfield and wing. I'm not sold on Tosi, he's just a big body that can't scrummage. I'd rather us look to sign PJ Sheck who can scrum and has a high work-rate.

    I also expect to see Peter Lakai and Riley Higgins play a prominent role in 2024, so expect them to push for starting spots aswell.

    My 23 would be:

    1. T Mafileo
    2. A Aumua
    3. T Lomax
    4. J Sangster
    5. C Delany
    6. D Flanders
    7. D Kirifi
    8. B Iose
    9. C Roigard
    10. B Cameron
    11. K Naholo
    12. J Barrett
    13. B Proctor
    14. J Moorby
    15. R Love

    Reserves:
    16. J Devery
    17. X Numia
    18. S Lauaki (unless we sign Sheck)
    19. I Walker-Leawere
    20. P Lakai
    21. T Perenara
    22. H Godfrey
    23. B Sullivan / R Higgins

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    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

      2023 was a topsy turvy year and it ultimately ended in disappointment after the Canes looked like they were getting a roll on. Despite losing Dane Coles and Ardie Savea for next year's campaign, the Hurricanes, with a maturing side will look to take that momentum into next season.

      Looking ahead to 2024, we've got a new coach in Clark Laidlaw which should bring plenty of fresh thinking into the side and we also have Brad Shields coming back in which should offset some of that experience lost.

      The following roster has been formulated thus far:

      Signed players:

      Props:
      T Lomax
      X Numia
      S Lauaki

      Hookers:
      A Aumua

      Locks:
      I Walker-Leawere

      Loose Forwards:
      D Flanders
      D Kirifi
      P Lakai
      B Shields

      Halfbacks:
      None

      First Fives:
      A Morgan

      Midfield:
      B Sullivan
      B Proctor
      R Higgins
      J Barrett

      Outside Backs:
      H Godfrey
      J Moorby
      R Love

      Confirmed as leaving:

      Hookers:
      D Coles

      Loose forwards:
      A Savea (Japan for 2024, back in 2025)

      Unknown contract status:

      Props:
      P Rakete-Stones
      T Mafileo
      O Franks
      P Tosi

      Hookers:
      J Devery

      Locks:
      J Sangster
      J Blackwell
      D Bird

      Loose Forwards:
      T Howden
      R Prinsep
      C Delany
      B Iose

      First Fives:
      B Cameron

      Midfielders:
      P Umaga-Jensen

      Outside Backs:
      S Rayasi
      K Naholo
      J Savea
      D Sinkinson

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      @Canes4life

      Wonder who the captain will be for 2024

      Maybe Kirifi esp if Wellington win again this year. I don't believe he would even be considered if Holland was still head coach though

      Or maybe co captains with Kirifi and Barrett. Esp as Kirifi might not be a certain starter. For eg Lauaki may be preferred to start at 7

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      • WingerW Winger

        @Canes4life

        Wonder who the captain will be for 2024

        Maybe Kirifi esp if Wellington win again this year. I don't believe he would even be considered if Holland was still head coach though

        Or maybe co captains with Kirifi and Barrett. Esp as Kirifi might not be a certain starter. For eg Lauaki may be preferred to start at 7

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        @Winger I’m not sure about Kirifi captaining considering Lakai is going to pass him long term.

        Maybe throw the captaincy to someone like Flanders. Before anyone makes too many criticisms, hear me out. He’s maturing year on year, he’s most likely going to be a main stay of this side for years to come, he seems to have the respect of all the players and it may bring him out of his shell like it did with Kieran Read at the Crusaders, who was also given the reigns at a young age.

        Kirifi as captain worked at the Lions but I don’t think he would have the same impact at the Canes. He seems too much of a hot head and at Super Rugby level you just can’t have someone like that making key decisions in big matches.

        I would then have someone like J Barrett as my vice captain in hope that it will bring the best out of him again.

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        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

          @Winger I’m not sure about Kirifi captaining considering Lakai is going to pass him long term.

          Maybe throw the captaincy to someone like Flanders. Before anyone makes too many criticisms, hear me out. He’s maturing year on year, he’s most likely going to be a main stay of this side for years to come, he seems to have the respect of all the players and it may bring him out of his shell like it did with Kieran Read at the Crusaders, who was also given the reigns at a young age.

          Kirifi as captain worked at the Lions but I don’t think he would have the same impact at the Canes. He seems too much of a hot head and at Super Rugby level you just can’t have someone like that making key decisions in big matches.

          I would then have someone like J Barrett as my vice captain in hope that it will bring the best out of him again.

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          @Canes4life

          it could be only for one year though. I thought about Flanders but he's not a super fit player like Kirifi savea Blackwell Delany etc. Otherwise he could be a VG choice.

          Laidlaw has a captain and 2 vice captains (1 forward and one back) for the u20s. Maybe he will go this route.

          Has Flanders had much captaincy experience. Was he captain of the U20s?

          Kirifi seems to have largely grown out of his hot head phase now. My only reservation with him is he wouldn't be a guaranteed starter. Hence the co-captaincy suggestion.

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            That's a lot of good players not signed if that correct. Roigard needs to be signed as soon as, but maybe has been waiting to see if got ABs, as his worth goes up etc.

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              That's a lot of good players not signed if that correct. Roigard needs to be signed as soon as, but maybe has been waiting to see if got ABs, as his worth goes up etc.

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              @Dan54 said in Hurricanes 2024:

              That's a lot of good players not signed if that correct. Roigard needs to be signed as soon as, but maybe has been waiting to see if got ABs, as his worth goes up etc.

              Roigard is a must signing. He looks like Smiths replacement in the ABs. And an incredible talent. Cameron is another. Not as good as Roigard but on form will push for AB honours. Even as a starter.

              There is a lot of work to re-sign the above 2 and other key players already mentiond ( most but not all of the quarter 23). But also to find other players where needed. Like 1 more quality hooker and a HB to replace Booth. And at least one tall quality lock (maybe Hugo Plummer).

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                @Canes4life

                it could be only for one year though. I thought about Flanders but he's not a super fit player like Kirifi savea Blackwell Delany etc. Otherwise he could be a VG choice.

                Laidlaw has a captain and 2 vice captains (1 forward and one back) for the u20s. Maybe he will go this route.

                Has Flanders had much captaincy experience. Was he captain of the U20s?

                Kirifi seems to have largely grown out of his hot head phase now. My only reservation with him is he wouldn't be a guaranteed starter. Hence the co-captaincy suggestion.

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                @Winger said in Hurricanes 2024:

                I thought about Flanders but he's not a super fit player

                What is this nonsense?

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                  1 of those boys in your list is going to new franchise

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                    1 of those boys in your list is going to new franchise

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                    @george33 said in Hurricanes 2024:

                    1 of those boys in your list is going to new franchise

                    Now you gotta say who and where. Crumbs stress this forum out

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                      1 of those boys in your list is going to new franchise

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                      @george33 said in Hurricanes 2024:

                      1 of those boys in your list is going to new franchise

                      Whose list

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                        1 of those boys in your list is going to new franchise

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                        @george33 lol you can’t just throw that grenade and not spill. Can you atleast say what position?

                        Is it Sangster? Because if Blackwell is sticking around I wouldn’t blame him. Or is it Mafileo? Him signing with North Harbour might suggest he’s going to the Blues…

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                        • S SouthernMann

                          @george33 said in Hurricanes 2024:

                          1 of those boys in your list is going to new franchise

                          Now you gotta say who and where. Crumbs stress this forum out

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                          @SouthernMann said in Hurricanes 2024:

                          @george33 said in Hurricanes 2024:

                          1 of those boys in your list is going to new franchise

                          Now you gotta say who and where. Crumbs stress this forum out

                          MAYBE mafileo. He could be heading to the Blues. And blues tend to like canes players. (Even our sure starters) Three were starting in the semi

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                            @george33 said in Hurricanes 2024:

                            1 of those boys in your list is going to new franchise

                            Now you gotta say who and where. Crumbs stress this forum out

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                              Cam Roigard to the Chiefs would be hilarious.

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                                Cam Roigard to the Chiefs would be hilarious.

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                                @SouthernMann said in Hurricanes 2024:

                                Cam Roigard to the Chiefs would be hilarious.

                                Wash your moth out!

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                                  Good Cambridge boy. Would have grown up supporting them. Chiefs no1 halfback is goooooone. A much better opportunity to win a championship in 2024. Makes sense.

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                                    @george33 said in Hurricanes 2024:

                                    1 of those boys in your list is going to new franchise

                                    Now you gotta say who and where. Crumbs stress this forum out

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                                    @SouthernMann would b unfair until officialy announced on every 1 involved but definitely happening

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                                      Good Cambridge boy. Would have grown up supporting them. Chiefs no1 halfback is goooooone. A much better opportunity to win a championship in 2024. Makes sense.

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                                      @SouthernMann said in Hurricanes 2024:

                                      Good Cambridge boy. Would have grown up supporting them. Chiefs no1 halfback is goooooone. A much better opportunity to win a championship in 2024. Makes sense.

                                      After losing the final maybe not.

                                      Still unsure how we landed Roigard but he's thriving in the canes environment so would be silly to return to a team that didn't rate him. And Canes with a top coach will be contenders. So sign for another 2 year and see how it goes.

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                                      • WingerW Winger

                                        @SouthernMann said in Hurricanes 2024:

                                        Good Cambridge boy. Would have grown up supporting them. Chiefs no1 halfback is goooooone. A much better opportunity to win a championship in 2024. Makes sense.

                                        After losing the final maybe not.

                                        Still unsure how we landed Roigard but he's thriving in the canes environment so would be silly to return to a team that didn't rate him. And Canes with a top coach will be contenders. So sign for another 2 year and see how it goes.

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                                        @Winger said in Hurricanes 2024:

                                        @SouthernMann said in Hurricanes 2024:

                                        Good Cambridge boy. Would have grown up supporting them. Chiefs no1 halfback is goooooone. A much better opportunity to win a championship in 2024. Makes sense.

                                        After losing the final maybe not.

                                        Still unsure how we landed Roigard but he's thriving in the canes environment so would be silly to return to a team that didn't rate him. And Canes with a top coach will be contenders. So sign for another 2 year and see how it goes.

                                        Living in Wellington, it always makes my life better if the Canes are shit. So I'm always looking at ways to drag them down haha. Roigard can do whatever he wants. His future is completely in his hands.

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                                          @SouthernMann would b unfair until officialy announced on every 1 involved but definitely happening

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                                          @george33 said in Hurricanes 2024:

                                          @SouthernMann would b unfair until officialy announced on every 1 involved but definitely happening

                                          So why say anything. Keep it to yourself. Or give the full details

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