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Final: Chiefs v Crusaders

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  • antipodeanA antipodean

    @Chris said in Final: Chiefs v Crusaders:

    All the Crusaders know they have another trophy 7 in a row 14 in total and some people are bitter and twisted,
    Just more fuel to win another next year

    They are to be congratulated on this stunning achievement, but it says an awful lot about the competition. None of it flattering.

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    @antipodean

    Maybe so but the Crusaders can only do their job which is to win the comp.
    They don’t control the workings of the comp how it is formed selected etc.
    Maybe they just proved with 8 ABs out of the final it is the enviroment not always the cattle that determine a champion side.

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    • Windows97W Windows97

      3 yellow cards and a disallowed try cost the Chiefs dearly.

      In saying that if Dmac had slotted the kick the same way he did the week before it would have been a different outcome.

      Crusaders took their opportunities and were clinical as they always are.

      1 meter back and the try would have been allowed, a couple meters more on the kick and the Chiefs would have won.

      Was the one that got away really, disappointing end to the season.

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      @Windows97 said in Final: Chiefs v Crusaders:

      In saying that if Dmac had slotted the kick the same way he did the week before it would have been a different outcome.

      was that bloody carnt jesus that fcuked that up..

      I swear as Dmac pointed towards the posts there was a slight wind behind him. In the time it took him to tee it up it swung around and lifted from the south kicking straight into it

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      • ChrisC Chris

        @antipodean

        Maybe so but the Crusaders can only do their job which is to win the comp.
        They don’t control the workings of the comp how it is formed selected etc.
        Maybe they just proved with 8 ABs out of the final it is the enviroment not always the cattle that determine a champion side.

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        @Chris said in Final: Chiefs v Crusaders:

        @antipodean

        Maybe so but the Crusaders can only do their job which is to win the comp.
        They don’t control the workings of the comp how it is formed selected etc.
        Maybe they just proved with 8 ABs out of the final it is the enviroment not always the cattle that determine a champion side.

        Cattle still contained 9 current ABs in the starting 15. And another a recent AB. If coaches did it with 3 or 4 ABs would agree. And how many were missing from the starting 15. 2 or 3. And the replacements were a high enough std. Not poor

        Most team have injuries. Crusader's are lucky to have attracted good backups. That other teams can struggle to do this for obvious reasons. Top teams always find attracting quality players easier

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          Starting XV
          Moody
          Blackadder
          Grace
          Havilli
          Reece

          Subs
          McAlister
          Bower
          Newell

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            Bower is he still under contract?

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              Any idea what Will Heinz is doing next season?

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              • WingerW Winger

                @Chris said in Final: Chiefs v Crusaders:

                @antipodean

                Maybe so but the Crusaders can only do their job which is to win the comp.
                They don’t control the workings of the comp how it is formed selected etc.
                Maybe they just proved with 8 ABs out of the final it is the enviroment not always the cattle that determine a champion side.

                Cattle still contained 9 current ABs in the starting 15. And another a recent AB. If coaches did it with 3 or 4 ABs would agree. And how many were missing from the starting 15. 2 or 3. And the replacements were a high enough std. Not poor

                Most team have injuries. Crusader's are lucky to have attracted good backups. That other teams can struggle to do this for obvious reasons. Top teams always find attracting quality players easier

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                @Winger said in Final: Chiefs v Crusaders:

                @Chris said in Final: Chiefs v Crusaders:
                Cattle still contained 9 current ABs in the starting 15. And another a recent AB. If coaches did it with 3 or 4 ABs would agree. And how many were missing from the starting 15. 2 or 3. And the replacements were a high enough std. Not poor

                To be fair, two of those 9 have never pulled on a black jersey…

                Most team have injuries. Crusader's are lucky to have attracted good backups. That other teams can struggle to do this for obvious reasons. Top teams always find attracting quality players easier

                They also have a knack of turning lesser knowns into something because of what’s happening both on and off the field.

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                  Kiwiwomble
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                  ...kind of feel like i need to post just because its the final.

                  only managed to watch parts of the first half, didn't get back to the clubrooms until nearly 6 (melbourne time) so it was already half time, we put it on delayed. By half time watching i was shattered so headed home but saw the score pop up on the socials so lost the urgency to watch the rest on sat

                  will watch a replay when get the chance

                  As expected the Saders got up for the games that matter, its just part of the culture

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                    The online abuse that Ben Okeefe is getting is horrendous, death threats even
                    Time for the Chiefs as an organisation to get on the front foot and address this .
                    Thought Chiefs supporters were better than that.

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                    • S Steven Harris

                      The online abuse that Ben Okeefe is getting is horrendous, death threats even
                      Time for the Chiefs as an organisation to get on the front foot and address this .
                      Thought Chiefs supporters were better than that.

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                      @Steven-Harris said in Final: Chiefs v Crusaders:

                      Thought Chiefs supporters were better than that.

                      Big call there.

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                      • S Steven Harris

                        The online abuse that Ben Okeefe is getting is horrendous, death threats even
                        Time for the Chiefs as an organisation to get on the front foot and address this .
                        Thought Chiefs supporters were better than that.

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                        @Steven-Harris
                        Disgraceful not the sort of people the Chiefs need as supporters.

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                        • CanerbryC Canerbry

                          @Steven-Harris said in Final: Chiefs v Crusaders:

                          Thought Chiefs supporters were better than that.

                          Big call there.

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                          @Canerbry if you see some of the abuse , you will get where I am coming from some of the stuff on the socials directly after the final were haha funny , ref got paid stuff etc ..! but to escalate it to a point we’re threats are being made ,that’s another level and totally unacceptable

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                            SBW1
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                            Time to focus on TRC.

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                              Tim
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                              https://twitter.com/NZRugby/status/1673260694962069504?s=20

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                                Better to upgrade officials so result changing clangers aren't dropped. Treat the cause not the effect.

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                                  https://twitter.com/NZRugby/status/1673260694962069504?s=20

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                                  @Tim

                                  Good on NZR for standing up for the officials from some pathetic,Bitter twisted people we don’t need these sort of people involved in rugby setting kids a great example ,Do they do this shit at their kids games .
                                  They make me sick the gutless fluffybunnies.

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                                  • P pakman

                                    Better to upgrade officials so result changing clangers aren't dropped. Treat the cause not the effect.

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                                    @pakman said in Final: Chiefs v Crusaders:

                                    Better to upgrade officials so result changing clangers aren't dropped. Treat the cause not the effect.

                                    Wow, that's a really poor response. Criticising a referee if you disagree with his decisions is one thing; abusing him and threatening him (which is what has happened) is totally unacceptable and I can't believe that you're condoning it. Referee abuse is a major reason for the declining numbers of referees, particularly in grassroots rugby. Without them, there's no game to play or watch.

                                    The cause of the abusive behaviour is not the officials making a few mistakes; the cause is entirely within the abusive persons, who've lost their sense of what is acceptable behaviour and what is not. If you want to treat the cause, then these abusive people are the ones who should be "upgraded", so the abuse no longer happens and bad examples are no longer set to children and young people, who may copy that bad behaviour.

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                                      @Stargazer I don't support refs being abused. But in many walks of life a person who made a mistake with the massive consequences of Saturday's would be summarily dismissed. It's a professional game now.

                                      NZRU ought to be investigating how to avoid a recurrence.

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                                        Toddy
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                                        I didn't realise Cane never fronted the press conference afterwards. Appears pretty gutless unless he had genuine reason to skip it.

                                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/300914202/mark-reason-referee-ben-okeeffe-played-a-blinder-and-we-should-all-shake-his-hand

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                                        • ToddyT Toddy

                                          I didn't realise Cane never fronted the press conference afterwards. Appears pretty gutless unless he had genuine reason to skip it.

                                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/300914202/mark-reason-referee-ben-okeeffe-played-a-blinder-and-we-should-all-shake-his-hand

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                                          @Toddy Shit captain, shit player. Absolute joke that after three years of being garbage at international level he is still AB captain. ABs with Papalii starting at seven have been so much better in the last two seasons of INTERNATIONAL RUGBY.

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