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Otago 2023

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  • S SouthernMann

    Hurley was a gun first five at high school. Only really moved into fullback in the last couple of years. I think his pace is key at the back. Just needs to have a few pies.

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    @SouthernMann ...that wouldn;t just turn him into a prop...isn;t he short too? not just skinny

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      I'd like to see him standing beside other midgets such as Kolbe and McKenzie to see how small he actually is.

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        I'd like to see him standing beside other midgets such as Kolbe and McKenzie to see how small he actually is.

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        @SouthernMann you're right, is that AJay on the left? if so he doesn;t look much taller

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          AJ is quite small too, I understand. Around 1.75. So Hurley must be somewhere between 172 and 174?

          Jack Taylor is reasonably small as well.

          Hurley does look very muscular though.

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            I'd like to see him standing beside other midgets such as Kolbe and McKenzie to see how small he actually is.

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            @SouthernMann He isn't going to grow any taller now.

            The key for Hurley is whether he has/will put on some weight/mass with the S&C since leaving school. There are a number of shorter fullbacks playing in NZ but you still need to be able to cope with the increased physicality in the senior ranks.

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              @SouthernMann He isn't going to grow any taller now.

              The key for Hurley is whether he has/will put on some weight/mass with the S&C since leaving school. There are a number of shorter fullbacks playing in NZ but you still need to be able to cope with the increased physicality in the senior ranks.

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              @Bovidae said in Otago 2023:

              @SouthernMann He isn't going to grow any taller now.

              The key for Hurley is whether he has/will put on some weight/mass with the S&C since leaving school. There are a number of shorter fullbacks playing in NZ but you still need to be able to cope with the increased physicality in the senior ranks.

              Yeah he's fully grown now. If he could get himself into the early to mid 80s, it should be a decent playing weight for him

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                Unfortunately for Hurley he is a midget. That photo favours him. You only needed to watch him playing that game for the Landers, heck he looked like a 15 year old!

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                  Unfortunately for Hurley he is a midget. That photo favours him. You only needed to watch him playing that game for the Landers, heck he looked like a 15 year old!

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                  @frugby he did...but he was also flying off the line and chopping guys which is all i need

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                    He might be handy for Otago at 15, but he is wayyyy too small to play 10. He would get crunched by the rush defence.

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                      I'm hoping the wee fella gets a decent run in the NPC to see whether he is up to getting smacked around. His upside in attack is pretty good.

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                        Back in 2020, for OB's both Finn and Cam played in the same side. Finn actually played first five and Cam played full back in the first few games but that combo didn't work, but they swapped and they started to dominate a lot more so they've got history as a 10,15 combo which may come in handy

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                          Massive News out at the mighty Grizzlies (sorry GI man here). But also for Otago, is that Jake Te Hiwi is starting at 12 this Saturday for GI. Will be at the game so can give an update on how he goes tomorrow

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                            I understand the NPC squad will be named today. Any hints about who the newbies will be?

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                              I understand the NPC squad will be named today. Any hints about who the newbies will be?

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                              @SouthernMann today do u mean Otago only still a way to go yet B4 Bunnings start

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                                @SouthernMann today do u mean Otago only still a way to go yet B4 Bunnings start

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                                @george33 wow...want to re read that and try again?

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                                  @SouthernMann today do u mean Otago only still a way to go yet B4 Bunnings start

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                                  @george33 said in Otago 2023:

                                  @SouthernMann today do u mean Otago only still a way to go yet B4 Bunnings start

                                  Yes. Pretty sure I have read the Otago squad will be named today.

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                                    @george33 wow...want to re read that and try again?

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                                    @Kiwiwomble ok

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                                      Ok thanks , seems bit early

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                                        Key points from the article. No Josh Ioane. No Ray Nu'u. Likely to be Christian Lio-Willie's last year. Kieran McLea is probably the third halfback. Semisi Tupou-Ta’eiloa might be heading to Southland on loan. No one to come in from outside Otago.

                                        https://www.odt.co.nz/sport/rugby/five-or-six-new-faces-likely-be-named-otago-squad

                                        Five or six new faces likely to be named in Otago squad

                                        There could be up to a half a dozen surprises when the Otago NPC squad is named late next week.
                                        Well, surprises might be slightly overstating it. But there will be some new faces.

                                        Otago Rugby Football Union chief executive Richard Kinley said there had been strong retention of players from last year which meant there were not a lot of open slots.

                                        "There could be up to another five or six contracts still to be offered," he confirmed.

                                        "There will also be another 10-11-12 players who will not be fully contracted, but will be brought into the squad to cover injuries and some of those players will get game time in the NPC this year."

                                        The Otago players based in the United States are expected back, so the likes of hooker Henry Bell and halfback Kieran McClea will return for the NPC.

                                        Crusaders No 8 Christian Lio-Willie’s playing contract has a year to run. He is a powerful ball-carrier and Otago will be hoping to get the best out of him.

                                        Highlanders lock Josh Dickson is destined for Japan, but it is understood he will turn out for Otago before he departs the country.

                                        First five Josh Ioane is not returning for personal reasons.

                                        The one-game All Black struggled for form last season and was overtaken by Cameron Millar.

                                        Midfielder Ray Nu’u is not returning, which could open up a spot for the likes of Josh Whaanga. The Taieri centre has impressed in his rookie premier grade season.

                                        Otago wants to see robust Kaikorai loosie Semisi Tupou-Ta’eiloa in action during at NPC level and has been working with Southland "on where Semisi might be best placed to get some game time this year".

                                        "That is a work in progress at the moment."

                                        The youngster looks a keeper, so Otago will want to get the wording right on any loan agreement, if that is what is happening.

                                        Last year, Wellington halfback Kemara Hauiti-Parapara and Waikato loose forward Rupeni Tamani were brought in to boost the squad.

                                        However, Kinley said Otago was unlikely to go outside of the province to fill any perceived vacancies this season.

                                        "I can say, at the moment, that we are not looking at anyone from outside the region. We’ve got some good depth coming through the community rugby programme, and also the trial game last week showed there is some good depth there.

                                        "I think we’ll have a very competitive side, with the new talent coming through and the retention of some experienced players."

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                                        @SouthernMann said in Otago 2023:

                                        Key points from the article. No Josh Ioane. No Ray Nu'u. Likely to be Christian Lio-Willie's last year. Kieran McLea is probably the third halfback. Semisi Tupou-Ta’eiloa might be heading to Southland on loan. No one to come in from outside Otago.

                                        https://www.odt.co.nz/sport/rugby/five-or-six-new-faces-likely-be-named-otago-squad

                                        Five or six new faces likely to be named in Otago squad

                                        There could be up to a half a dozen surprises when the Otago NPC squad is named late next week.
                                        Well, surprises might be slightly overstating it. But there will be some new faces.

                                        Otago Rugby Football Union chief executive Richard Kinley said there had been strong retention of players from last year which meant there were not a lot of open slots.

                                        "There could be up to another five or six contracts still to be offered," he confirmed.

                                        "There will also be another 10-11-12 players who will not be fully contracted, but will be brought into the squad to cover injuries and some of those players will get game time in the NPC this year."

                                        The Otago players based in the United States are expected back, so the likes of hooker Henry Bell and halfback Kieran McClea will return for the NPC.

                                        Crusaders No 8 Christian Lio-Willie’s playing contract has a year to run. He is a powerful ball-carrier and Otago will be hoping to get the best out of him.

                                        Highlanders lock Josh Dickson is destined for Japan, but it is understood he will turn out for Otago before he departs the country.

                                        First five Josh Ioane is not returning for personal reasons.

                                        The one-game All Black struggled for form last season and was overtaken by Cameron Millar.

                                        Midfielder Ray Nu’u is not returning, which could open up a spot for the likes of Josh Whaanga. The Taieri centre has impressed in his rookie premier grade season.

                                        Otago wants to see robust Kaikorai loosie Semisi Tupou-Ta’eiloa in action during at NPC level and has been working with Southland "on where Semisi might be best placed to get some game time this year".

                                        "That is a work in progress at the moment."

                                        The youngster looks a keeper, so Otago will want to get the wording right on any loan agreement, if that is what is happening.

                                        Last year, Wellington halfback Kemara Hauiti-Parapara and Waikato loose forward Rupeni Tamani were brought in to boost the squad.

                                        However, Kinley said Otago was unlikely to go outside of the province to fill any perceived vacancies this season.

                                        "I can say, at the moment, that we are not looking at anyone from outside the region. We’ve got some good depth coming through the community rugby programme, and also the trial game last week showed there is some good depth there.

                                        "I think we’ll have a very competitive side, with the new talent coming through and the retention of some experienced players."

                                        @george33 article I posted from last week saying the squad will be named this week.

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                                          Ok didn't c it, good to see Josh will play B4 heading offshore always rated him highly and Cameron Miller sign him up highlanders long term B4 others come knocking

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