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Blues 2024

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  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

    Cotter saying he hopes Schmidt will be involved - excellent.

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    @KiwiMurph said in Blues 2024:

    Cotter saying he hopes Schmidt will be involved - excellent.

    Umaga currently has a weird 'Support Coach' role with no specific responsibility. If the rumour is true and he's going to MP that makes room for Schmidt

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      https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/football/blues-turn-to-ex-scotland-and-fiji-boss-to-take-over-their-coaching-reins/ar-AA1dlEk7?ocid=hpmsn&pc=ACTE&cvid=4724c75208d64e8aa5f0f99d09597500&ei=22

      So Schmidt is staying in New Zealand?

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      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

        https://www.blues.rugby/blues-rugby-news/coach-announcement

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        @KiwiMurph said in Blues 2024:

        https://www.blues.rugby/blues-rugby-news/coach-announcement

        Awesome for the blues. Well played.

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        • gt12G gt12

          Blues look to have the best coaching team in Super Rugby. A couple of them would likely be better than their AB counterparts.

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          @Daffy-Jaffy said in Blues 2024:

          Good news. I always loved the way O'Halloran's Manawatu teams attacked. All we need now are some good signings, especially Locks and props.
          From the Herald -
          O’Halloran is expected to assume the attack brief at the Blues after honing his coaching craft in Japan, Manawatū and Scotland, where he linked with Cotter from 2014-2017 to lead the national team to fifth in the world.

          While Craig McGrath retains responsibility for the Blues defence, Dan Halangahu is expected to shift from attack to a skills focus in the coaching reshuffle.

          Cotter’s traditional forwards focus and Paul Tito’s ongoing presence likely leaves no room for Tom Coventry, although he and Tana Umaga may be retained within the Blues in some capacity.

          Cotter’s long-time relationship with All Blacks assistant Joe Schmidt - dating back to 2000 when they joined forces to lead Bay of Plenty to the Ranfurly Shield – could yet rekindle their ties at the Blues next year.

          Cotter, O'Halloran, Tito, McGrath, Halangahu, Umaga, Schmidt would make 7, and they said Razor's AB staff was excessive, those Blue$$$$ are desperate to buy a title aren't they?

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          • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

            @Daffy-Jaffy said in Blues 2024:

            Good news. I always loved the way O'Halloran's Manawatu teams attacked. All we need now are some good signings, especially Locks and props.
            From the Herald -
            O’Halloran is expected to assume the attack brief at the Blues after honing his coaching craft in Japan, Manawatū and Scotland, where he linked with Cotter from 2014-2017 to lead the national team to fifth in the world.

            While Craig McGrath retains responsibility for the Blues defence, Dan Halangahu is expected to shift from attack to a skills focus in the coaching reshuffle.

            Cotter’s traditional forwards focus and Paul Tito’s ongoing presence likely leaves no room for Tom Coventry, although he and Tana Umaga may be retained within the Blues in some capacity.

            Cotter’s long-time relationship with All Blacks assistant Joe Schmidt - dating back to 2000 when they joined forces to lead Bay of Plenty to the Ranfurly Shield – could yet rekindle their ties at the Blues next year.

            Cotter, O'Halloran, Tito, McGrath, Halangahu, Umaga, Schmidt would make 7, and they said Razor's AB staff was excessive, those Blue$$$$ are desperate to buy a title aren't they?

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            @kiwi_expat said in Blues 2024:

            @Daffy-Jaffy said in Blues 2024:

            Good news. I always loved the way O'Halloran's Manawatu teams attacked. All we need now are some good signings, especially Locks and props.
            From the Herald -
            O’Halloran is expected to assume the attack brief at the Blues after honing his coaching craft in Japan, Manawatū and Scotland, where he linked with Cotter from 2014-2017 to lead the national team to fifth in the world.

            While Craig McGrath retains responsibility for the Blues defence, Dan Halangahu is expected to shift from attack to a skills focus in the coaching reshuffle.

            Cotter’s traditional forwards focus and Paul Tito’s ongoing presence likely leaves no room for Tom Coventry, although he and Tana Umaga may be retained within the Blues in some capacity.

            Cotter’s long-time relationship with All Blacks assistant Joe Schmidt - dating back to 2000 when they joined forces to lead Bay of Plenty to the Ranfurly Shield – could yet rekindle their ties at the Blues next year.

            Cotter, O'Halloran, Tito, McGrath, Halangahu, Umaga, Schmidt would make 7, and they said Razor's AB staff was excessive, those Blue$$$$ are desperate to buy a title aren't they?

            Your ability to work Razor into nearly every post you make is impressive

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              https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2023/07/super-rugby-pacific-new-blues-coach-vern-cotter-eyes-forwards-for-improvement-in-championship-chase.html

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              • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

                @Daffy-Jaffy said in Blues 2024:

                Good news. I always loved the way O'Halloran's Manawatu teams attacked. All we need now are some good signings, especially Locks and props.
                From the Herald -
                O’Halloran is expected to assume the attack brief at the Blues after honing his coaching craft in Japan, Manawatū and Scotland, where he linked with Cotter from 2014-2017 to lead the national team to fifth in the world.

                While Craig McGrath retains responsibility for the Blues defence, Dan Halangahu is expected to shift from attack to a skills focus in the coaching reshuffle.

                Cotter’s traditional forwards focus and Paul Tito’s ongoing presence likely leaves no room for Tom Coventry, although he and Tana Umaga may be retained within the Blues in some capacity.

                Cotter’s long-time relationship with All Blacks assistant Joe Schmidt - dating back to 2000 when they joined forces to lead Bay of Plenty to the Ranfurly Shield – could yet rekindle their ties at the Blues next year.

                Cotter, O'Halloran, Tito, McGrath, Halangahu, Umaga, Schmidt would make 7, and they said Razor's AB staff was excessive, those Blue$$$$ are desperate to buy a title aren't they?

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                @kiwi_expat said in Blues 2024:

                @Daffy-Jaffy said in Blues 2024:

                Good news. I always loved the way O'Halloran's Manawatu teams attacked. All we need now are some good signings, especially Locks and props.
                From the Herald -
                O’Halloran is expected to assume the attack brief at the Blues after honing his coaching craft in Japan, Manawatū and Scotland, where he linked with Cotter from 2014-2017 to lead the national team to fifth in the world.

                While Craig McGrath retains responsibility for the Blues defence, Dan Halangahu is expected to shift from attack to a skills focus in the coaching reshuffle.

                Cotter’s traditional forwards focus and Paul Tito’s ongoing presence likely leaves no room for Tom Coventry, although he and Tana Umaga may be retained within the Blues in some capacity.

                Cotter’s long-time relationship with All Blacks assistant Joe Schmidt - dating back to 2000 when they joined forces to lead Bay of Plenty to the Ranfurly Shield – could yet rekindle their ties at the Blues next year.

                Cotter, O'Halloran, Tito, McGrath, Halangahu, Umaga, Schmidt would make 7, and they said Razor's AB staff was excessive, those Blue$$$$ are desperate to buy a title aren't they?

                I've never seen someone so obsessed with the makeup of coaching teams.

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                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300919867/there-will-be-no-excuses-new-coach-vern-cotters-bold-vision-for-blues

                  The Blues have also retained more than 90% of their players for next year, and Cotter has brought in Jason O'Halloran, who worked under him with Scotland, to take care of the attack. Paul Tito, Craig McGrath and Daniel Halangahu will be retained as assistants, while Tom Coventry and Tana Umaga are still discussing their futures.

                  It's an ongoing discussion with them [Coventry and Umaga] about what their roles and responsibilities are, and we have got to allow Vern to do his thing, get settled in and have his discussions,'' Blues chief executive Andrew Hore said. "And allow him to pick his team going forward.''

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                    I guess Coventry and Umaga are gone, Schmidt might be available on a part time consultation role, but cotter had only said he'd like him involved.

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                      In an interview on SENZ yesterday Cotter said that they only have 3 roster positions to fill, an Outside Back, a Midfielder and a Forward , but did not say which forward position.

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                        "I was born in Devonport, so it feels legitimate," said Cotter. "I spend the first five years of my life on Motuihe Island on the Hauraki Gulf."
                        

                        Weird place to live, so I did a quick google

                        His family ran a farm there in early 60's. Sounds like the Navy just moved to Devonport around that time

                        motuihe.org.nz/about-the-island/heritage/farming-plus-kiosk-operators/

                        alt text

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                          https://www.rugbypass.com/news/tana-umaga-named-as-new-moana-pasifika-coach/?fbclid=IwAR1y93ejPyGUl0bNzzDXPdxTr2PcM9TGbraF4LBEfI1VPSIZ7JjE0J-gu08

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                              Interview with Cotter from a couple of days ago

                              https://open.spotify.com/episode/6xaDiFbej6OdhrBJlQjI0n

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                              • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                                In an interview on SENZ yesterday Cotter said that they only have 3 roster positions to fill, an Outside Back, a Midfielder and a Forward , but did not say which forward position.

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                                @Daffy-Jaffy said in Blues 2024:

                                In an interview on SENZ yesterday Cotter said that they only have 3 roster positions to fill, an Outside Back, a Midfielder and a Forward , but did not say which forward position.

                                Forward would be either a loosie or prop... that in itself probably depends whether they have got Mafileo over the line.

                                My gut instinct is they are probably after short-term players for the outside back and loosie spot as place-holders for Clark and Tangitau who will be with the 7s?

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                                    Good addition

                                    More specialist locks in 2024. This year there was a reliance on utilities

                                    2023
                                    Tuipulotu, Suafoa, Darry, Tucker, Robinson

                                    2024 should be:
                                    Tuipulotu, Suafoa, Darry, McWhannell, Annandale

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                                      Yep big fan of McWhannell, if he can stay fit I think he could have a bit of breakout season (big if). He's impressed in limited opportunities.

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                                      • DuluthD Duluth

                                        Good addition

                                        More specialist locks in 2024. This year there was a reliance on utilities

                                        2023
                                        Tuipulotu, Suafoa, Darry, Tucker, Robinson

                                        2024 should be:
                                        Tuipulotu, Suafoa, Darry, McWhannell, Annandale

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                                        @Duluth The other thing I like about this group is their ages.
                                        EA - 22
                                        SD - 23
                                        LM - 24
                                        CS - 25
                                        If they all stay and develop well it ensures a solid locking group for sometime.

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                                        • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                                          @Duluth The other thing I like about this group is their ages.
                                          EA - 22
                                          SD - 23
                                          LM - 24
                                          CS - 25
                                          If they all stay and develop well it ensures a solid locking group for sometime.

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                                          @Daffy-Jaffy

                                          Some pressure on Darry too. He had a couple of good games when he returned from injury but then reverted to being a little soft in contact

                                          That's without knowing how good Annandale is. If he has a strong NPC, Darry could be ranked 5th out of the locks

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