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Magpies 2023

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    Billsy111
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    I like it. Two from Ta$man both props.

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      Did their mate sign Grigg and Tiatia on multi year contracts last year? Ugh.

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        No Toala???I thought the 2nd five from tech might have got in.

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        @kiwimatrix said in Magpies 2023:

        No Toala???I thought the 2nd five from tech might have got in.

        No Enari or Funaki either. :thumbs_down_medium_skin_tone:

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          This is a very small squad. They've left a lot of players out who are in the Samoa and Tonga squads, but not all of them. I assume the players that have not been named were off-contract, while the players who were named were still signed for 2023.

          Last year, we had 7 props. Now 6, one of them may be unavailable.
          We had 4 hookers (one injured for the season), now 3.
          We had 6 locks, now again 6 locks. Two of them out of our Acedemy; one of them (Allen) first year out of high school.
          In 2023, we had 9 loose forwards. This year we have 7 and two of them are fresh out of our Academy.
          Last year, we had 4 halfbacks (one unavailable for most of the season), now 3. One of them is new.
          No change at first five-eighth.
          Last year, we had 5 midfielders, now 3.
          In 2022, we had 7 outside backs. This year we have 6.

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            @kiwimatrix said in Magpies 2023:

            No Toala???I thought the 2nd five from tech might have got in.

            No Enari or Funaki either. :thumbs_down_medium_skin_tone:

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            @Nepia World Cup

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              This is a very small squad. They've left a lot of players out who are in the Samoa and Tonga squads, but not all of them. I assume the players that have not been named were off-contract, while the players who were named were still signed for 2023.

              Last year, we had 7 props. Now 6, one of them may be unavailable.
              We had 4 hookers (one injured for the season), now 3.
              We had 6 locks, now again 6 locks. Two of them out of our Acedemy; one of them (Allen) first year out of high school.
              In 2023, we had 9 loose forwards. This year we have 7 and two of them are fresh out of our Academy.
              Last year, we had 4 halfbacks (one unavailable for most of the season), now 3. One of them is new.
              No change at first five-eighth.
              Last year, we had 5 midfielders, now 3.
              In 2022, we had 7 outside backs. This year we have 6.

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              Daffy Jaffy
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              @Stargazer Sam Wye is a good Ponsonby boy. Was with Auckland last season. I rate him and i'm disappointed that he is not in my team, but pleased that he has a gig if Auckland did not want him.

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                @Nepia World Cup

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                @Billsy111 said in Magpies 2023:

                @Nepia World Cup

                We have other players named who might be in the RWC too, as @Stargazer notes the ones not named appear to be off contract.

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                  The biggest mystery naming to me is Paula Balekana. He's a Fijian winger who currently plays for NE Free Jacks (same team as Hintz and Kereru-Symes). I attended Kelston Boys'.

                  He has quite a bit of experience.
                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paula_Balekana

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                    The biggest mystery naming to me is Paula Balekana. He's a Fijian winger who currently plays for NE Free Jacks (same team as Hintz and Kereru-Symes). I attended Kelston Boys'.

                    He has quite a bit of experience.
                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paula_Balekana

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                    @Stargazer said in Magpies 2023:

                    The biggest mystery naming to me is Paula Balekana. He's a Fijian winger who plays for NE Free Jacks (same team as Hintz and Kereru-Symes).

                    He has quite a bit of experience.
                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paula_Balekana

                    Reading that career and his signing is even weirder, a journeyman 30 year old. Surely there are some young wings at home who could do the same job as him?

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                      @Stargazer said in Magpies 2023:

                      The biggest mystery naming to me is Paula Balekana. He's a Fijian winger who plays for NE Free Jacks (same team as Hintz and Kereru-Symes).

                      He has quite a bit of experience.
                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paula_Balekana

                      Reading that career and his signing is even weirder, a journeyman 30 year old. Surely there are some young wings at home who could do the same job as him?

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                      @Nepia I'm going to watch some NE Free Jacks games to have a look.

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                        @Nepia I'm going to watch some NE Free Jacks games to have a look.

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                        @Stargazer Here are highlights from his time with Zebre -

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                          The biggest disappointment from this squad naming is that the squad doesn't have a Sullivan in it. The second biggest disappointment is that Smith, Tiatia, Grigg and Higgins are still there. The first three are all Syms' signings and he isn't even there anymore.

                          The huge positives of this squad is that it's an extremely young squad. Even if we end up near the bottom of the table this season, we're building great potential for the future. Hopefully, Brock James can coach and we'll see another surge to the higher end of the table like we saw under Ozich.

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                            Is it just me or does the whole thing seem very half hearted this year.Just a team dumped out on a random Tuesday morning with little to no explanation of anything. Almost like they don't have high hopes for this season.

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                            • K kiwimatrix

                              No Toala???I thought the 2nd five from tech might have got in.

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                              @kiwimatrix said in Magpies 2023:

                              No Toala???I thought the 2nd five from Tech might should have got in.

                              Fixed.

                              Mystified about the Toala non selection. Can only assume that the Manu must be holding pre World Cup camps that their players must attend but then that does not explain the selection of Neria Fomai. The midfied selections look entirely unthreatening but with just three named to cover two positions there must be space for one more to be named so maybe the absence of Toala is simply an oversite by the social media personnel who have probably got out of practise in reporting important things like team namings on their various outlets. Clearly the promoting of a new name for a mascot must be taking up too much of their time.
                              The most mystifying is the complete disregarding of Liam Udy-Johns who has been comfortably ahead of all those he has come up against in the Club games I have watched. It almost defies logic that he should not be included.

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                                The biggest disappointment from this squad naming is that the squad doesn't have a Sullivan in it. The second biggest disappointment is that Smith, Tiatia, Grigg and Higgins are still there. The first three are all Syms' signings and he isn't even there anymore.

                                The huge positives of this squad is that it's an extremely young squad. Even if we end up near the bottom of the table this season, we're building great potential for the future. Hopefully, Brock James can coach and we'll see another surge to the higher end of the table like we saw under Ozich.

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                                @Stargazer said in Magpies 2023:

                                The biggest disappointment from this squad naming is that the squad doesn't have a Sullivan in it. The second biggest disappointment is that Smith, Tiatia, Grigg and Higgins are still there. The first three are all Syms' signings and he isn't even there anymore.

                                The huge positives of this squad is that it's an extremely young squad. Even if we end up near the bottom of the table this season, we're building great potential for the future. Hopefully, Brock James can coach and we'll see another surge to the higher end of the table like we saw under Ozich.

                                If he was the backs attack coach last year well then I'm afraid our hopes and expectations for this season had better be lowered a notch or two as there was little in the way of exciting and inventive play by numbers 9 to 15 last season.

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                                  It's almost as if the whole club season was a waste of time
                                  They appear to have completely disregarded the club form and there's not even any fringe players named like they usually do.

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                                  • K kiwimatrix

                                    Is it just me or does the whole thing seem very half hearted this year.Just a team dumped out on a random Tuesday morning with little to no explanation of anything. Almost like they don't have high hopes for this season.

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                                    @kiwimatrix It's not just you. In previous years, they often used the Hawke's Bay Today to write an article, which then - somewhat modified - appeared on the HBRU website. That may still happen, but later than usual. I don't understand why they can't just write a media release with some comments from the coach and some of the new players like other provinces do. It's not that hard.

                                    The timing is also weird. They can't be leaving for their camp in Taupō yet, as the remaining preseason games are more than two weeks away.

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                                      Exactly, I mean for all we know, 7 or 8 of the bay boys playing in the states may have recommended the Fijian winger ,but it would be nice to hear these things from the coach.

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                                        @Stargazer Here are highlights from his time with Zebre -

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                                        @Daffy-Jaffy said in Magpies 2023:

                                        @Stargazer Here are highlights from his time with Zebre -

                                        After watching this all I can say is that he must have improved immeasurably since those days as there was barely a broken tackle much less an actual linebreak shown.

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                                          I actually don't mind this Squad. Sure outside backs do look light, but there may be reasons for that. It would be good to hear from Brock, but I firmly believe Toala will be there come NPC time

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