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All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2

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  • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

    @voodoo said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

    So 2 questions:

    • what does that Frizell performance mean for Scooter? Is he on the bench now? Or are we going to do the unthinkable and make a choice between BBBR and SW? I assume Scooter goes to the bench.

    IMO Scooter is a bolted on starter. Either way I wouldn’t mind them rotating the other two to keep them fresh for the RWC, I just think the way Scooter has been playing they can’t leave him out. Whether he has a 4, 5 or 6 on his back, he is now playing the tight game at a high level that we need.

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    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

    Whether he has a 4, 5 or 6 on his back, he is now playing the tight game at a high level that we need.

    I can't be the only thinking he reminds me of Brad Thorn

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    • Chris B.C Chris B.

      @voodoo I've given you a slightly mixed answer.

      I don't think Frizz is necessarily locked into the 6 jumper for the big games at RWC. It wouldn't surprise me at all if the preferred plan is still ScottB at 6. Shannon has given them another option to think about.

      On DMac, I've never thought he's been much of a chance to supplant Richie this year, even though there's not that much to choose between them. He's possibly more of a chance to supplant Beaudy at fullback, but even then, I think not.

      A bench of Christie/Roigard, DMac and ALB would cover most options though.

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      @Chris-B said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

      @voodoo I've given you a slightly mixed answer.

      I don't think Frizz is necessarily locked into the 6 jumper for the big games at RWC. It wouldn't surprise me at all if the preferred plan is still ScottB at 6. Shannon has given them another option to think about.

      On DMac, I've never thought he's been much of a chance to supplant Richie this year, even though there's not that much to choose between them. He's possibly more of a chance to supplant Beaudy at fullback, but even then, I think not.

      A bench of Christie/Roigard, DMac and ALB would cover most options though.

      BBBR and SW to start at lock, SB at 6

      Sub one of the locks, put SB in the engine room and Friz to 6

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      • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

        @canefan said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

        @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

        @canefan said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

        @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

        @voodoo said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

        @gt12 at least we are actually contesting the contestables now eh? For so long we were putting up those same short high kicks then barely even chasing them 🤦🏻‍♂️

        Did you notice though, when we were being smothered and pushed back, we were just that little bit less able to contest as well as we did earlier?

        That was the point where we should have put the contestable bombs away

        The problem being though, we were going nowhere at a rate of knots, even going backwards. They had no idea what else to do. If only we had someone with a raking boot.

        BB and JB can kick a long way. We just never utilised them

        Jordie had a huge punt down the middle in the first half. Was pleased as punch with that.

        There were a few very big punts last night.

        I still think the contestable kick is all about unsettling the opposition. We recovered a number last night with some Howlett / Bender like chasing from our outside backs and even Mo’unga on two occasions.

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        @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

        @canefan said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

        @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

        @canefan said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

        @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

        @voodoo said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

        @gt12 at least we are actually contesting the contestables now eh? For so long we were putting up those same short high kicks then barely even chasing them 🤦🏻‍♂️

        Did you notice though, when we were being smothered and pushed back, we were just that little bit less able to contest as well as we did earlier?

        That was the point where we should have put the contestable bombs away

        The problem being though, we were going nowhere at a rate of knots, even going backwards. They had no idea what else to do. If only we had someone with a raking boot.

        BB and JB can kick a long way. We just never utilised them

        Jordie had a huge punt down the middle in the first half. Was pleased as punch with that.

        There were a few very big punts last night.

        I still think the contestable kick is all about unsettling the opposition. We recovered a number last night with some Howlett / Bender like chasing from our outside backs and even Mo’unga on two occasions.

        It's a great tactic. Just needs to be used more judiciously

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        • canefanC canefan

          @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

          @canefan said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

          @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

          @canefan said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

          @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

          @voodoo said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

          @gt12 at least we are actually contesting the contestables now eh? For so long we were putting up those same short high kicks then barely even chasing them 🤦🏻‍♂️

          Did you notice though, when we were being smothered and pushed back, we were just that little bit less able to contest as well as we did earlier?

          That was the point where we should have put the contestable bombs away

          The problem being though, we were going nowhere at a rate of knots, even going backwards. They had no idea what else to do. If only we had someone with a raking boot.

          BB and JB can kick a long way. We just never utilised them

          Jordie had a huge punt down the middle in the first half. Was pleased as punch with that.

          There were a few very big punts last night.

          I still think the contestable kick is all about unsettling the opposition. We recovered a number last night with some Howlett / Bender like chasing from our outside backs and even Mo’unga on two occasions.

          It's a great tactic. Just needs to be used more judiciously

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          @canefan said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

          It's a great tactic. Just needs to be used more judiciously

          Call me old fashioned but I've got great memories of Foxy's raking wipers kicks into the corners. Why not?

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          • boobooB booboo

            @Bovidae said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

            Ardie's lack of physicality

            Noticeably quiet

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            @booboo said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

            Noticeably quiet

            Quiet or a different style of play? Didn't specifically watch him , but he seems to be playing much tighter than last year and driving closer to the ruck.

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            • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

              @booboo said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

              Noticeably quiet

              Quiet or a different style of play? Didn't specifically watch him , but he seems to be playing much tighter than last year and driving closer to the ruck.

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              @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

              @booboo said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

              Noticeably quiet

              Quiet or a different style of play? Didn't specifically watch him , but he seems to be playing much tighter than last year and driving closer to the ruck.

              Yeah, maybe "less noticeable" maybe more apt.

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              • F Frank

                This channel can always be relied on to take Bok losses hard.

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                @Frank said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

                This channel can always be relied on to take Bok losses hard.

                TBF it was legit try

                And the lines out analysis was spot on

                Would much rather watch this analysis than Squidge

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                • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

                  @canefan said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

                  It's a great tactic. Just needs to be used more judiciously

                  Call me old fashioned but I've got great memories of Foxy's raking wipers kicks into the corners. Why not?

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                  @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

                  @canefan said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

                  It's a great tactic. Just needs to be used more judiciously

                  Call me old fashioned but I've got great memories of Foxy's raking wipers kicks into the corners. Why not?

                  It must have been so demoralising for the opposition. Foxy was a machine

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                    So why aren't they using this tactic more? With the 50: 22 rule there's even more reason to do so.
                    Not a big fan of the contestable kick

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                    • boobooB booboo

                      @Bovidae said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

                      Ardie's lack of physicality

                      Noticeably quiet

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                      @booboo said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

                      @Bovidae said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

                      Ardie's lack of physicality

                      Noticeably quiet

                      I thought Ardie was supporting a lot and buried in rucks or Etzebeth was trying to tear his leg off--all that focus helped SF to shine, perhaps.

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                      • voodooV voodoo

                        @Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

                        D-Mac seems like a genuinely good bastard doesn't he

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                        • F Frank

                          This channel can always be relied on to take Bok losses hard.

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                          @Frank said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

                          This channel can always be relied on to take Bok losses hard.

                          "analysis"

                          I can take these YT warriors seriously when they don't understand simple concepts such as binding. And then having the temerity to say the refs don't know what they're doing.

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                            Great win against a quality side. Really happy about the forwards working as a unit and setting the platform for the win. Read everyone's comments about "those up and unders". Tactics or not, there were some really stupid ones by BB, no one was chasing and it just gave the ball back in an attacking position. A few phases later and the Boks score. Arguably, two of the Bok's tries came from this tactic. I really don't understand it. There is a time for it of course but there is also a time for distance and starting again in opposition territory.

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                            • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

                              So why aren't they using this tactic more? With the 50: 22 rule there's even more reason to do so.
                              Not a big fan of the contestable kick

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                              @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

                              So why aren't they using this tactic more? With the 50: 22 rule there's even more reason to do so.
                              Not a big fan of the contestable kick

                              Exactly. We need to do more scissors too, they work great against 80s defences. We should also highlight to the ref that the opposition are lifting their lineout jumpers, that's fucking illegal.

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                                I want more M 2 Doubles

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                                • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                  @Frank said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

                                  This channel can always be relied on to take Bok losses hard.

                                  TBF it was legit try

                                  And the lines out analysis was spot on

                                  Would much rather watch this analysis than Squidge

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                                  @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

                                  @Frank said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

                                  This channel can always be relied on to take Bok losses hard.

                                  TBF it was legit try

                                  And the lines out analysis was spot on

                                  Would much rather watch this analysis than Squidge

                                  I find that SA analytics channel to be on the money more often than not.

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                                    A couple of others have commented - our chase was massively improved last night, with the biggest improver being Jordan. His workrate and kick chase was on a completely different level to the disinterested dross he was serving up prior to this year.

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                                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                      I want more M 2 Doubles

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                                      @mariner4life said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

                                      I want more M 2 Doubles

                                      DB.

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                                        Just getting around to this now

                                        The number of times Nesbitt calls any Books backline player with dark skin "Mapimpi" is utterly embarrassing.

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                                        • NTAN NTA

                                          Just getting around to this now

                                          The number of times Nesbitt calls any Books backline player with dark skin "Mapimpi" is utterly embarrassing.

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                                          @NTA said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:

                                          Just getting around to this now

                                          The number of times Nesbitt calls any Books backline player with dark skin "Mapimpi" is utterly embarrassing.

                                          To be fair it wasn't just the saffa players. I recall him calling Rieko as Richie at least once

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