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EPL 2023/2024

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  • CyclopsC Cyclops

    Havertz will be really interesting. Shades of Odegaard who was signed to real with a ton of fanfare but never figured it out for them. Can arteta find a way to unlock havertz like he has for Odegaard?

    Rice is the key for them though. One of the best at his position and a desperate need for them. It's so very arsenal that they're potentially going to miss out on him because they tried to nickel and dime west ham.

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    @Cyclops I think rice is pretty much sewn up from what is being said. Just negotiating how much is paid and when. Havertz is an interesting one and just have to wait to see whether his talents can be highlighted under Arteta. One more strong midfielder would be ideal.

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    • KiwiPieK KiwiPie

      Nobody is worth 105m but I can't see Rice failing at the Arse, he's too dynamic a player. Will be interesting to see whether they see him as the holding player or want him to take on more of the Xhaka role and being given licence to maraud forwards.

      Havertz on the other hand - could be a masterstroke if they can work out a position that suits him but it won't be as the central striker. Maybe in the Xhaka role.

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      @KiwiPie well he is at least worth 90 as this is what City offered unless it was not a serious offer. Like all sports a player is worth what someone pays for him. Seems like he has some leadership skills that set him apart from Caicedo otherwise I would be just as happy with him and pushing for Fofana. I just want more starch in our midfield so let's move on from Viera and as soon as Jorginho.

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        Powerful stuff from one of my favourite Spurs players in recent times, who lost his way.

        Hopefully this is a step in his coming back and being happy in himself again

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          Declan Rice has just Arsenal from West Ham for a British record fee of Β£105 million.

          https://twitter.com/arsenal/status/1680186746728861696?s=46

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          • canefanC canefan

            Powerful stuff from one of my favourite Spurs players in recent times, who lost his way.

            Hopefully this is a step in his coming back and being happy in himself again

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            @canefan said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

            Powerful stuff from one of my favourite Spurs players in recent times, who lost his way.

            Hopefully this is a step in his coming back and being happy in himself again

            It was powerful and sad. But I sense he has learned a lot of things in rehab and that he wasn't to blame for all this shit. Obviously, a process of recovery, but I bet he has so many more people rooting for him now. Hope he has a great season with improved outlook.

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            • broughieB broughie

              @canefan said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

              Powerful stuff from one of my favourite Spurs players in recent times, who lost his way.

              Hopefully this is a step in his coming back and being happy in himself again

              It was powerful and sad. But I sense he has learned a lot of things in rehab and that he wasn't to blame for all this shit. Obviously, a process of recovery, but I bet he has so many more people rooting for him now. Hope he has a great season with improved outlook.

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              @broughie said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

              @canefan said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

              Powerful stuff from one of my favourite Spurs players in recent times, who lost his way.

              Hopefully this is a step in his coming back and being happy in himself again

              It was powerful and sad. But I sense he has learned a lot of things in rehab and that he wasn't to blame for all this shit. Obviously, a process of recovery, but I bet he has so many more people rooting for him now. Hope he has a great season with improved outlook.

              I was such a big fan of his when he played for Spurs. Such a shame he wasn't ready to ask for help when he played for us. I guess he had to hit bottom and reach out in his own time

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              • canefanC canefan

                @broughie said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

                @canefan said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

                Powerful stuff from one of my favourite Spurs players in recent times, who lost his way.

                Hopefully this is a step in his coming back and being happy in himself again

                It was powerful and sad. But I sense he has learned a lot of things in rehab and that he wasn't to blame for all this shit. Obviously, a process of recovery, but I bet he has so many more people rooting for him now. Hope he has a great season with improved outlook.

                I was such a big fan of his when he played for Spurs. Such a shame he wasn't ready to ask for help when he played for us. I guess he had to hit bottom and reach out in his own time

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                @canefan said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

                @broughie said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

                @canefan said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

                Powerful stuff from one of my favourite Spurs players in recent times, who lost his way.

                Hopefully this is a step in his coming back and being happy in himself again

                It was powerful and sad. But I sense he has learned a lot of things in rehab and that he wasn't to blame for all this shit. Obviously, a process of recovery, but I bet he has so many more people rooting for him now. Hope he has a great season with improved outlook.

                I was such a big fan of his when he played for Spurs. Such a shame he wasn't ready to ask for help when he played for us. I guess he had to hit bottom and reach out in his own time

                Never saw him play but will watch for him this year. Stopped watching EPL once Wenger was on his last legs and Arsenal were full of fancy midgets who wanted to walk the ball into the goal.

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                • sparkyS sparky

                  Declan Rice has just Arsenal from West Ham for a British record fee of Β£105 million.

                  https://twitter.com/arsenal/status/1680186746728861696?s=46

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                  @sparky said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

                  Declan Rice has just Arsenal from West Ham for a British record fee of Β£105 million.

                  West Ham moaning about the time it took to finalise this deal was rich. They extended the early negotiations to get Man City involved and bump up Rice's value. Anyway, Arsenal now has their three primary targets so the immediate focus will be selling some players now.

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                    I had no idea about Dele Alli's back story - goes some way to explaining his decline possibly. He rose to prominence so fast at Spurs, scoring loads of goals, playing for England yet it was never clear what his particular talents were or his best position.

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                    • KiwiPieK KiwiPie

                      I had no idea about Dele Alli's back story - goes some way to explaining his decline possibly. He rose to prominence so fast at Spurs, scoring loads of goals, playing for England yet it was never clear what his particular talents were or his best position.

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                      @KiwiPie said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

                      I had no idea about Dele Alli's back story - goes some way to explaining his decline possibly. He rose to prominence so fast at Spurs, scoring loads of goals, playing for England yet it was never clear what his particular talents were or his best position.

                      He had great vision and an eye for goal, very skillful on the ball. His best football was played when he was in the space behind the centre forward. When Pochettino moved him into a more defensive role he wasn't as effective

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                        Milos Kerkez the young Hungarian full-back signed for Bournemouth, still a couple of more signings seem likely as well. Some good talent hunted, the biggest question for me this year is will the team be able to play the attacking football brand that Iraola wants to play.. might take a while to change

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                          @KiwiPie Was it as bad as it sounded at Gander Green Lane for you outfit? I suppose that conceding a very early goal plus a similar red card must not have helped.

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                            @KiwiPie Was it as bad as it sounded at Gander Green Lane for you outfit? I suppose that conceding a very early goal plus a similar red card must not have helped.

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                            @Higgins said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

                            @KiwiPie Was it as bad as it sounded at Gander Green Lane for you outfit? I suppose that conceding a very early goal plus a similar red card must not have helped.

                            Not sure entirely, haven't caught up with reports. Playing with 10 from early on is tough and we seemed to dominate possessions which sounds like Sutton just sat on us and played on the break. As the players say on Twitter "We go again"

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                              Arsenal win the community shield with a bit of luck. Yay. I think the back line of Saliba, White and Timber with Gabriel and Kiwior fighting for the other central position is good. Zinchenko for me can play against teams where we don't have to be so defensive minded because if you are a left back your primary duties are defending, despite inverting. What we lack is what we added in Rice but we need more. Another Black guy with speed who eats up ground. When you look at Viera, EMR and Gorginho replacing in big games they are underwhelming. Another Fofana/Touchameni type needed in my mind. Need also to be able to attack through the middle as we are predictable out wide. Not sure what the solution is there.

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                                Alas, I was unable on phone.

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                                  @Duluth help πŸ˜ƒ

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                                    @Duluth help πŸ˜ƒ

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                                    @Hooroo said in EPL 2023/2024:

                                    @Duluth help πŸ˜ƒ

                                    There you go. I moved posts from the couple of months where people were talking about transfers etc

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                                      Bournemouth will go into this season with confidence and a goal of a finish in the top half (Europe a bridge too far) A new manager has the team fitter and asking them for a change in style for a high press. I saw more attempts on goal in the highlights in the FC Lorient match than many previous matches last year.

                                      However I don't think we have the squad for this yet, nor the depth. We have made some good signings and are likely snag a couple more in this window. We do have a couple of key players with injuries right now too and we still don't have adequate cover for Lerma. I don't think our backs especially are ready to cover for a high press either, meaning we are likely to concede a few.

                                      I expect to see more goals from us this season but unless we can keep a few out, will have a poor defensive record like last year.

                                      My bold prediction is not relegated, but not far off for Iraola

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                                      • broughieB broughie

                                        Arsenal win the community shield with a bit of luck. Yay. I think the back line of Saliba, White and Timber with Gabriel and Kiwior fighting for the other central position is good. Zinchenko for me can play against teams where we don't have to be so defensive minded because if you are a left back your primary duties are defending, despite inverting. What we lack is what we added in Rice but we need more. Another Black guy with speed who eats up ground. When you look at Viera, EMR and Gorginho replacing in big games they are underwhelming. Another Fofana/Touchameni type needed in my mind. Need also to be able to attack through the middle as we are predictable out wide. Not sure what the solution is there.

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                                        @broughie It looks like Arteta will change up his midfield depending on the quality of the opposition and whether the team has most of the possession, or not. In the Community Shield against Man City playing both Partey and Rice provides more protection for the back four. Against teams where Arsenal should control the ball I expect Rice will move into the 8 position (replacing Xhaka) and play higher up the field. Havertz got himself into good positions and should have converted at least one of those two chances.

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                                          So Fulham's summer woes have been well documented but just to re-cap.

                                          Fucking Saudi's :angry_face_with_horns:

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