Aussie Community Rugby
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@Dan54 dont get me wrong, im not even on the commitee, just manage one of the teams, the actual commitee kill them selves keeping the club alive
one of them who is probably a bit like @NTA in that he does loads for the club and then will also play two games if needed, was tell me the other week he needs to step down, said he was lonely and legit cant have a partner and still do everything he does for the club
@NTA they were probably saying the same thing about me when i first joined
@Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Rugby:
he does loads for the club and then will also play two games if needed, was tell me the other week he needs to step down, said he was lonely and legit cant have a partner and still do everything he does for the club
That's toxic. Unfortunately that situation requires them to just leave in order for everyone else to appreciate it.
I'm going to step down from the Union Board next year. It is only one meeting a month and I'll miss the odd junket, but I have to start withdrawing from the excess duties in some fashion.
I also find it frustrating that in 4 years on the board very little has changed in terms of landscape. Most of that is out of our control but why am I wasting my time on it when as a big part of the grassroots scene, we just get run over by Premier Rugby?
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@NTA said in Aussie Rugby:
It is possible to set up a Third Grade game but it's a lot of effort and other clubs want to play at fuckall o'clock at their home ground. Fuck that.
see, we have to field 3 grade, if you dont you dont qualify for finals
@Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Rugby:
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby:
It is possible to set up a Third Grade game but it's a lot of effort and other clubs want to play at fuckall o'clock at their home ground. Fuck that.
see, we have to field 3 grade, if you dont you dont qualify for finals
Our Division (4) is only 2 Grades. Currently if you want regular Third Grade you have to go to Division 2 and have Colts U21 with it.
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@NTA have you had to get international clearance for a player?
we have loads of player from overseas but for some reason we've got to get clearance for a new guys thats just rocked up, highest level he's played is 1stXV club in ireland so hes not professional or anything...i have to get his club and then the irish union to sign off before lodging with Rugby Vic
seems over kill and i just cant believe every kiwi that comes over does it
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@NTA have you had to get international clearance for a player?
we have loads of player from overseas but for some reason we've got to get clearance for a new guys thats just rocked up, highest level he's played is 1stXV club in ireland so hes not professional or anything...i have to get his club and then the irish union to sign off before lodging with Rugby Vic
seems over kill and i just cant believe every kiwi that comes over does it
@Kiwiwomble I haven't had to do it though I know it is in the competition rules if someone last played overseas.
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@NTA have you had to get international clearance for a player?
we have loads of player from overseas but for some reason we've got to get clearance for a new guys thats just rocked up, highest level he's played is 1stXV club in ireland so hes not professional or anything...i have to get his club and then the irish union to sign off before lodging with Rugby Vic
seems over kill and i just cant believe every kiwi that comes over does it
@Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Rugby:
seems over kill and i just cant believe every kiwi that comes over does it
Yeah it becomes a case of "don't ask, don't tell". Our comp is fully amateur so they want to be sure it isn't some kind of dodgy setup
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@Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Rugby:
seems over kill and i just cant believe every kiwi that comes over does it
Yeah it becomes a case of "don't ask, don't tell". Our comp is fully amateur so they want to be sure it isn't some kind of dodgy setup
@NTA i think out coaches are being a bit cautious because we in the run up to play offs so dont want to get caught....just a such a process that no one really want to actually do
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@NTA have you had to get international clearance for a player?
we have loads of player from overseas but for some reason we've got to get clearance for a new guys thats just rocked up, highest level he's played is 1stXV club in ireland so hes not professional or anything...i have to get his club and then the irish union to sign off before lodging with Rugby Vic
seems over kill and i just cant believe every kiwi that comes over does it
@Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Rugby:
@NTA have you had to get international clearance for a player?
we have loads of player from overseas but for some reason we've got to get clearance for a new guys thats just rocked up, highest level he's played is 1stXV club in ireland so hes not professional or anything...i have to get his club and then the irish union to sign off before lodging with Rugby Vic
seems over kill and i just cant believe every kiwi that comes over does it
Even years ago a young fella I knew was in Italy as exchange student, and had to get clearance from NZR so he could play. Seem your lot are rightly being cautious!
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Fuck me I hate the judiciary system.
We got a red card, which was a surprise to everyone.
Now, to prove the ref wrong, I have to get a pile of stat decs from witnesses by Wednesday in time for the hearing.
My guys don't work offices or even have PCs at home to print shit out or scan it. Our catchment is basically this:
How the fuck are they going to get a statement together, witness in front of a JP - because everyone has a day job - and back to us before the hearing?
Fuck me I'm done with this shit.
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Fuck me I hate the judiciary system.
We got a red card, which was a surprise to everyone.
Now, to prove the ref wrong, I have to get a pile of stat decs from witnesses by Wednesday in time for the hearing.
My guys don't work offices or even have PCs at home to print shit out or scan it. Our catchment is basically this:
How the fuck are they going to get a statement together, witness in front of a JP - because everyone has a day job - and back to us before the hearing?
Fuck me I'm done with this shit.
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Fuck me I hate the judiciary system.
We got a red card, which was a surprise to everyone.
Now, to prove the ref wrong, I have to get a pile of stat decs from witnesses by Wednesday in time for the hearing.
My guys don't work offices or even have PCs at home to print shit out or scan it. Our catchment is basically this:
How the fuck are they going to get a statement together, witness in front of a JP - because everyone has a day job - and back to us before the hearing?
Fuck me I'm done with this shit.
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@voodoo said in Aussie Rugby:
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby:
Fuck me I hate the judiciary system.
We got a red card, which was a surprise to everyone.
Now, to prove the ref wrong, I have to get a pile of stat decs from witnesses by Wednesday in time for the hearing.
My guys don't work offices or even have PCs at home to print shit out or scan it. Our catchment is basically this:
How the fuck are they going to get a statement together, witness in front of a JP - because everyone has a day job - and back to us before the hearing?
Fuck me I'm done with this shit.
I drove through this area once (I was lost) and can confirm that there are no pc's or printers anywhere.
Regards
Were you on the way to a smartass convention?
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@voodoo said in Aussie Rugby:
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby:
Fuck me I hate the judiciary system.
We got a red card, which was a surprise to everyone.
Now, to prove the ref wrong, I have to get a pile of stat decs from witnesses by Wednesday in time for the hearing.
My guys don't work offices or even have PCs at home to print shit out or scan it. Our catchment is basically this:
How the fuck are they going to get a statement together, witness in front of a JP - because everyone has a day job - and back to us before the hearing?
Fuck me I'm done with this shit.
I drove through this area once (I was lost) and can confirm that there are no pc's or printers anywhere.
Regards
Were you on the way to a smartass convention?
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby:
@voodoo said in Aussie Rugby:
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby:
Fuck me I hate the judiciary system.
We got a red card, which was a surprise to everyone.
Now, to prove the ref wrong, I have to get a pile of stat decs from witnesses by Wednesday in time for the hearing.
My guys don't work offices or even have PCs at home to print shit out or scan it. Our catchment is basically this:
How the fuck are they going to get a statement together, witness in front of a JP - because everyone has a day job - and back to us before the hearing?
Fuck me I'm done with this shit.
I drove through this area once (I was lost) and can confirm that there are no pc's or printers anywhere.
Regards
Were you on the way to a smartass convention?
Quite possibly :grinning_face_with_big_eyes: - but it could also have been the shit-joke-expo (and now deleted for shitness), my memory isn't great
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Fuck me I hate the judiciary system.
We got a red card, which was a surprise to everyone.
Now, to prove the ref wrong, I have to get a pile of stat decs from witnesses by Wednesday in time for the hearing.
My guys don't work offices or even have PCs at home to print shit out or scan it. Our catchment is basically this:
How the fuck are they going to get a statement together, witness in front of a JP - because everyone has a day job - and back to us before the hearing?
Fuck me I'm done with this shit.
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby:
Fuck me I hate the judiciary system.
We got a red card, which was a surprise to everyone.
Now, to prove the ref wrong, I have to get a pile of stat decs from witnesses by Wednesday in time for the hearing.
My guys don't work offices or even have PCs at home to print shit out or scan it. Our catchment is basically this:
How the fuck are they going to get a statement together, witness in front of a JP - because everyone has a day job - and back to us before the hearing?
Fuck me I'm done with this shit.
thats shit, with the 4 week fiasco i went through last month....they didn;t require stat decs, just accepted email statements, and after the first hearing we were allowed to arrange zoom calls for everyone
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@NTA said in Aussie Rugby:
Fuck me I hate the judiciary system.
We got a red card, which was a surprise to everyone.
Now, to prove the ref wrong, I have to get a pile of stat decs from witnesses by Wednesday in time for the hearing.
My guys don't work offices or even have PCs at home to print shit out or scan it. Our catchment is basically this:
How the fuck are they going to get a statement together, witness in front of a JP - because everyone has a day job - and back to us before the hearing?
Fuck me I'm done with this shit.
thats shit, with the 4 week fiasco i went through last month....they didn;t require stat decs, just accepted email statements, and after the first hearing we were allowed to arrange zoom calls for everyone
@Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Rugby:
thats shit, with the 4 week fiasco i went through last month....they didn;t require stat decs, just accepted email statements, and after the first hearing we were allowed to arrange zoom calls for everyone
Sensible.
I reckon a basic video statement, provided the interviewee shows their photo identification at the start, should be enough
This isn't the fucking 1800s.
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So, got 2 stat decs in the end (one from the accused, the other from a bystander), and went into Judiciary last night.
Entry level for headbutt is 6 weeks. Got it down to 2. Feels sort of like a win but not fucking really just because he never headbutted the guy but the ref's word is final.
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So, got 2 stat decs in the end (one from the accused, the other from a bystander), and went into Judiciary last night.
Entry level for headbutt is 6 weeks. Got it down to 2. Feels sort of like a win but not fucking really just because he never headbutted the guy but the ref's word is final.
@NTA I know how you feel as years ago I had almost a season ticket at the Judicial Sub Committee hearings of the Wellington RFU for a year or so and sometimes the referees reports were not exactly close to what I saw my boys allegedly do. I invariably had to bite my tongue as Club Officials have to be seen supporting and backing referees and just had to accept what their reports said were gospel (when often they weren't). In those days the minimum penalty was always three weeks (for a send off or after three yellow cards) no matter what so after taking showing support for the referee into the equation, there was little point in putting up a spirited defence as it would make no difference whatsoever to the standard three weeks stand down.
I did have a couple of minor victories (three or four weeks instead of the expected six weeks) for some more serious offences with some astute, but not referee bashing, defences though. -
Bit late now, but what did the other team have to say about it? I'd have hoped that the phantom-headbuttee would be willing to vouch that it didn't happen
@GibbonRib said in Aussie Rugby:
Bit late now, but what did the other team have to say about it? I'd have hoped that the phantom-headbuttee would be willing to vouch that it didn't happen
They don't do judiciary to that level. Refs report. Red card recipient attends with a club official.
Also: the guy who supposedly got the "headbutt" yelled out my player was a "fat fluffybunny" and a "pig" so I'm not expecting him to submit a stat dec in our favour.
Plus I cited the fluffybunny after the first grade game for kicking our captain - clear as day on the video - so not expecting him to help at that point
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@NTA I know how you feel as years ago I had almost a season ticket at the Judicial Sub Committee hearings of the Wellington RFU for a year or so and sometimes the referees reports were not exactly close to what I saw my boys allegedly do. I invariably had to bite my tongue as Club Officials have to be seen supporting and backing referees and just had to accept what their reports said were gospel (when often they weren't). In those days the minimum penalty was always three weeks (for a send off or after three yellow cards) no matter what so after taking showing support for the referee into the equation, there was little point in putting up a spirited defence as it would make no difference whatsoever to the standard three weeks stand down.
I did have a couple of minor victories (three or four weeks instead of the expected six weeks) for some more serious offences with some astute, but not referee bashing, defences though.@Higgins said in Aussie Rugby:
there was little point in putting up a spirited defence as it would make no difference whatsoever to the standard three weeks stand down.
Yep. Refs are God. Short of conclusive video evidence to the contrary, you're fuct
I did have a couple of minor victories
I managed to get two red cards down to a week. Both dissent. One was even time served as it happened 3 minutes in.
