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Australia v All Blacks - Bled I

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    Pauliasi Manu is the best of that uncapped bunch.

    WC medal but uncapped.

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      Heard an interview with knuckles Connelly earlier this morning on the radio . I don’t know if he has any history with Eddie jones ( he wasn’t complimentary) but he was paying out on the decision to get rid of dave Rennie and bring in Eddie , thinks they are worse off .

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      • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

        Heard an interview with knuckles Connelly earlier this morning on the radio . I don’t know if he has any history with Eddie jones ( he wasn’t complimentary) but he was paying out on the decision to get rid of dave Rennie and bring in Eddie , thinks they are worse off .

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        @kiwiinmelb said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

        Heard an interview with knuckles Connelly earlier this morning on the radio . I don’t know if he has any history with Eddie jones ( he wasn’t complimentary) but he was paying out on the decision to get rid of dave Rennie and bring in Eddie , thinks they are worse off .

        No history that I’m aware of and the way that I took what he said was more a swipe at the ARU and the whole process, timing etc. I didn’t mind Knuckles. He didn’t get long in the top job, just a couple of seasons and then was dumped.

        Was good to hear the big man after a couple of tough years health wise.

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          What a great nickname too. Knuckles. Sounds like a henchman from the Sopranos

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          • C cgrant

            Players who haven't been involved yet :

            Newell, Finau, Blackadder, Jacobson, Roigard, McLeod, ALB, LF, Stephenson. We might see a few of them on the team sheet. I expect the likes of Lomax, Scooter and Cane, who have had a big workload this year, to miss the selection.
            Possible team :

            De Groot
            Coles
            Laulala
            Lord
            Whitelock
            Vai'i (he played 6 when he came in against the Boss)
            DP
            Jacobson
            Smith
            DMac
            LF (if fit)
            ALB
            Ennor
            Narawa
            BB

            Sub : ST, Ofa T, Williams or Newell if fit, Retallick, Savea, Roigard, Mo'unga, McLeod.

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            @cgrant It's pretty hard to forecast this next match, because Fozzie could do anything. But, if he loses, he'll have to run out his top team the following week for fear of losing the Bled. So, I'm inclined to think a few changes, but probably not many. Something like:

            Williams
            Samisoni
            Lomax
            Retallick
            Whitelock
            Barrett
            Cane
            Savea
            Roigard
            Mo'unga
            Telea
            JBarrett
            Ioane
            Jordan
            DMac

            Coles
            Tu'ungafasi
            Laulala
            Frizell
            Jacobsen
            Christie
            ALB
            Fainga'anuku

            Hopefully, lock the Bled and RC away and run the game time experiments the following week.

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            • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

              @kiwiinmelb said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

              Heard an interview with knuckles Connelly earlier this morning on the radio . I don’t know if he has any history with Eddie jones ( he wasn’t complimentary) but he was paying out on the decision to get rid of dave Rennie and bring in Eddie , thinks they are worse off .

              No history that I’m aware of and the way that I took what he said was more a swipe at the ARU and the whole process, timing etc. I didn’t mind Knuckles. He didn’t get long in the top job, just a couple of seasons and then was dumped.

              Was good to hear the big man after a couple of tough years health wise.

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              @ACT-Crusader said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

              [Knuckles] didn’t get long in the top job, just a couple of seasons and then was dumped.

              Standard procedure.

              He also made some weird selection choices, but was given a squad too long in the tooth.

              It's funny because it was back in the days where we only just had our fourth team, and the rot had already set in re: player development. The theory that less teams = better performance is simply not a guarantee.

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                @chimoaus said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                Are there any other good examples of players making the squad but never actually getting capped? Curious to know who missed out over the years?

                Stevenson never made the squad, he was cover, which is different. However, it indeed happens with full squad members not getting a run as the coaches want them in for a looksie.

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                @Machpants said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                @chimoaus said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                Are there any other good examples of players making the squad but never actually getting capped? Curious to know who missed out over the years?

                Stevenson never made the squad, he was cover, which is different. However, it indeed happens with full squad members not getting a run as the coaches want them in for a looksie.

                Have a feeling Rhys Duggan may have sat on the bench without getting on.

                Who was the prop that won a RWC winners medal but didn't play?

                David Halligan (not Daryl) (Otago?) scored all his sides points in the early trial back in the 70s or early 80s, named at fullback, got injured and never played.

                Would be others.

                Oops, meant to reply to @chimoaus

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                  Jason OHalloran never got on did he?

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                  • canefanC canefan

                    Jason OHalloran never got on did he?

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                    @canefan Played against Italy.

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                    • BonesB Bones

                      @voodoo we watched in a house, with half the crew Aussies, then headed to Bondi after. I was the guy standing in front of the cash machine at Bondi hotel, saying "yo mama" and refusing to move for any Aussies that came near. Woke up on Bondi beach about 7am on my own.

                      Good times.

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                      @Bones said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                      Woke up on Bondi beach about 7am on my own.

                      https://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/ezgif-1-2334c9065d.gif

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                      • TordahT Tordah

                        I expect a conservative selection for this one, maybe Finau and Roigard off the bench, but no more than that.

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                        @Tordah said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                        I expect a conservative selection for this one, maybe Finau and Roigard off the bench, but no more than that.

                        Maybe DMac on the bench to come in at 10 to see how he goes with BB

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                        • canefanC canefan

                          @MajorPom said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                          Probably. Australia are one of those teams that if we are up by 48 at half time, I'll still be slightly concerned.

                          I'll be more concerned if they come out all fire and brimstone at the start, and get ahead of us. The rise when they play us, and their backs are against the wall

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                          @canefan said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                          @MajorPom said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                          Probably. Australia are one of those teams that if we are up by 48 at half time, I'll still be slightly concerned.

                          I'll be more concerned if they come out all fire and brimstone at the start, and get ahead of us. The rise when they play us, and their backs are against the wall

                          We turned in up in Boks 2 last year, No reason the Wobblies can't do the same. I'm expecting a tight game.

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                          • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                            @canefan said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                            @MajorPom said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                            Probably. Australia are one of those teams that if we are up by 48 at half time, I'll still be slightly concerned.

                            I'll be more concerned if they come out all fire and brimstone at the start, and get ahead of us. The rise when they play us, and their backs are against the wall

                            We turned in up in Boks 2 last year, No reason the Wobblies can't do the same. I'm expecting a tight game.

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                            @Victor-Meldrew said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                            @canefan said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                            @MajorPom said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                            Probably. Australia are one of those teams that if we are up by 48 at half time, I'll still be slightly concerned.

                            I'll be more concerned if they come out all fire and brimstone at the start, and get ahead of us. The rise when they play us, and their backs are against the wall

                            We turned in up in Boks 2 last year, No reason the Wobblies can't do the same. I'm expecting a tight game.

                            Eddie's probably plotting our downfall for this game, and forgotten about getting results in all of the other games

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                              Wallabies have beaten ABs in Aus pre-world cup in the last 4 RWC years.

                              07 - MCG
                              11 - Suncorp
                              15 - Homebush
                              19 - Perth

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                              • TheMojomanT TheMojoman

                                @Steve said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                @taniwharugby said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                Stevenson has been released, so he won't be playing.

                                All Blacks hopeful Shaun Stevenson will leave the team before their Bledisloe Cup trip to Melbourne in a fortnight, despite impressing in training.

                                Mafileo is still with the squad though.

                                https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2023/07/rugby-world-cup-coach-ian-foster-gives-squad-update-on-all-blacks-hopeful-shaun-stevenson.html

                                Ah Jesus . What a waste.

                                Foster is an idiot.

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                                @TheMojoman said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                @Steve said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                @taniwharugby said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                Stevenson has been released, so he won't be playing.

                                All Blacks hopeful Shaun Stevenson will leave the team before their Bledisloe Cup trip to Melbourne in a fortnight, despite impressing in training.

                                Mafileo is still with the squad though.

                                https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2023/07/rugby-world-cup-coach-ian-foster-gives-squad-update-on-all-blacks-hopeful-shaun-stevenson.html

                                Ah Jesus . What a waste.

                                Foster is an idiot.

                                Considering the compliments he's publicly given to SS, you wonder if it was Schmidt and/or McLeod who had reservations.

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                                  @TheMojoman said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                  @Steve said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                  @taniwharugby said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                  Stevenson has been released, so he won't be playing.

                                  All Blacks hopeful Shaun Stevenson will leave the team before their Bledisloe Cup trip to Melbourne in a fortnight, despite impressing in training.

                                  Mafileo is still with the squad though.

                                  https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2023/07/rugby-world-cup-coach-ian-foster-gives-squad-update-on-all-blacks-hopeful-shaun-stevenson.html

                                  Ah Jesus . What a waste.

                                  Foster is an idiot.

                                  Considering the compliments he's publicly given to SS, you wonder if it was Schmidt and/or McLeod who had reservations.

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                                  @Victor-Meldrew said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                  @TheMojoman said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                  @Steve said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                  @taniwharugby said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                  Stevenson has been released, so he won't be playing.

                                  All Blacks hopeful Shaun Stevenson will leave the team before their Bledisloe Cup trip to Melbourne in a fortnight, despite impressing in training.

                                  Mafileo is still with the squad though.

                                  https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2023/07/rugby-world-cup-coach-ian-foster-gives-squad-update-on-all-blacks-hopeful-shaun-stevenson.html

                                  Ah Jesus . What a waste.

                                  Foster is an idiot.

                                  Considering the compliments he's publicly given to SS, you wonder if it was Schmidt and/or McLeod who had reservations.

                                  If they had reservations, surely the best thing was to at least see how he performed for the ABXV?

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                                  • BonesB Bones

                                    @Victor-Meldrew said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                    @TheMojoman said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                    @Steve said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                    @taniwharugby said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                    Stevenson has been released, so he won't be playing.

                                    All Blacks hopeful Shaun Stevenson will leave the team before their Bledisloe Cup trip to Melbourne in a fortnight, despite impressing in training.

                                    Mafileo is still with the squad though.

                                    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2023/07/rugby-world-cup-coach-ian-foster-gives-squad-update-on-all-blacks-hopeful-shaun-stevenson.html

                                    Ah Jesus . What a waste.

                                    Foster is an idiot.

                                    Considering the compliments he's publicly given to SS, you wonder if it was Schmidt and/or McLeod who had reservations.

                                    If they had reservations, surely the best thing was to at least see how he performed for the ABXV?

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                                    @Bones

                                    He was injury cover and they wanted to work with him in camp on a few things around defence IIRC. Think they see him as a huge prospect but there's clearly a few issues they want ironed out

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                                      @Bones

                                      He was injury cover and they wanted to work with him in camp on a few things around defence IIRC. Think they see him as a huge prospect but there's clearly a few issues they want ironed out

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                                      @Victor-Meldrew said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                      @Bones

                                      He was injury cover and they wanted to work with him in camp on a few things around defence IIRC. Think they see him as a huge prospect but there's clearly a few issues they want ironed out

                                      Unlike CC who is the finished article, oh wait...

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                                      • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                        @TheMojoman said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                        @Steve said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                        @taniwharugby said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                        Stevenson has been released, so he won't be playing.

                                        All Blacks hopeful Shaun Stevenson will leave the team before their Bledisloe Cup trip to Melbourne in a fortnight, despite impressing in training.

                                        Mafileo is still with the squad though.

                                        https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2023/07/rugby-world-cup-coach-ian-foster-gives-squad-update-on-all-blacks-hopeful-shaun-stevenson.html

                                        Ah Jesus . What a waste.

                                        Foster is an idiot.

                                        Considering the compliments he's publicly given to SS, you wonder if it was Schmidt and/or McLeod who had reservations.

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                                        @Victor-Meldrew you'd think the head coach would have final say if he wanted someone that the others didnt or were on the fence with.

                                        Almost feels like when Berryman got his run, public sentiment was he shold be there, but coaches werent convinced.

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                                          @Bones

                                          He was injury cover and they wanted to work with him in camp on a few things around defence IIRC. Think they see him as a huge prospect but there's clearly a few issues they want ironed out

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                                          @Victor-Meldrew said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                          @Bones

                                          they wanted to work with him in camp

                                          Did they actually say that, or is that just hit and hope from you?

                                          Regardless, I remain thoroughly unconvinced about these "issues" which I haven't seen any explanation of. Especially so when you consider the top two fullbacks are Beauden McShovelshit and a guy who makes as many errors as unbelievable plays.

                                          The kind of unbelievable plays we've seen Stevenson do, but without as many errors.

                                          Sounds like mealy mouthed excuses to me, on a par with saying Taylor is the form hooker at the start of the 2022 international season.

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