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Australia v All Blacks - Bled I

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    @sparky said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

    Fairly certain Sam Whitelock and ALB will be in the 23. I don’t expect many other changes.

    I’d start Barrett at 6 with Frizell and Blackadder/Jacobson on the bench.

    Nothing against Frizell and but we need to see if Barrett is an true option at 6 of do we lock in Frizell from here on in.

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    @TheMojoman it’s going to be interesting which way they go. Whitelock has only come off the bench in 3 tests of his last 35 tests. Those 3 were against Italy, Fiji and Canada. When he’s fit he’s more likely to start than not.

    Hard to leave Barrett out of the starting lineup given his form and impact, but I’d like to see Frizell given another test. He’s had two very good outings so far, let’s ride it.

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      @game_film said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

      Can’t see Oz playing as badly for the next 2 games, neither the ABs as well. Surely one of them will be close.

      Guessing tickets for the G were sold long before the first 2 tests. Based on experience, whatever RA say they’re expecting you can knock off 20%.

      80% of 80k is still 64,000

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      @booboo Still great, don’t get me wrong.

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        I’m starting to think this game might be tighter than the form suggests .

        Aussies will surely improve with the increased time together with the new coach, and not so certain we will go into it with the same ferocity that we did against the boks .

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          Totally, when was the last time ABs had 3 quality performances in a row? Certainly never under foster, maybe 2016?

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          • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

            @TheMojoman it’s going to be interesting which way they go. Whitelock has only come off the bench in 3 tests of his last 35 tests. Those 3 were against Italy, Fiji and Canada. When he’s fit he’s more likely to start than not.

            Hard to leave Barrett out of the starting lineup given his form and impact, but I’d like to see Frizell given another test. He’s had two very good outings so far, let’s ride it.

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            @ACT-Crusader said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

            @TheMojoman it’s going to be interesting which way they go. Whitelock has only come off the bench in 3 tests of his last 35 tests. Those 3 were against Italy, Fiji and Canada. When he’s fit he’s more likely to start than not.

            Hard to leave Barrett out of the starting lineup given his form and impact, but I’d like to see Frizell given another test. He’s had two very good outings so far, let’s ride it.

            If Taylor starts do you start the crusader pair of locks together for familiarity, and bring samosoni and Brodie on together

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              I have a feeling there is a red card coming in this game.

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                I have a feeling there is a red card coming in this game.

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                @Steve said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                I have a feeling there is a red card coming in this game.

                Swain or Swinton in the team?

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                • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                  @ACT-Crusader said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                  @TheMojoman it’s going to be interesting which way they go. Whitelock has only come off the bench in 3 tests of his last 35 tests. Those 3 were against Italy, Fiji and Canada. When he’s fit he’s more likely to start than not.

                  Hard to leave Barrett out of the starting lineup given his form and impact, but I’d like to see Frizell given another test. He’s had two very good outings so far, let’s ride it.

                  If Taylor starts do you start the crusader pair of locks together for familiarity, and bring samosoni and Brodie on together

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                  @kiwiinmelb surely it is Samisoni's turn to start...

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                    @Steve said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                    I have a feeling there is a red card coming in this game.

                    Swain or Swinton in the team?

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                    @booboo said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                    @Steve said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                    I have a feeling there is a red card coming in this game.

                    Swain or Swinton in the team?

                    Beaudy is the next Barrett vs OZ red, surely

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                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                      @kiwiinmelb surely it is Samisoni's turn to start...

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                      @taniwharugby yeah I wasn’t sure if they are grooming him to be that impact guy or not .

                      Unrelated - dallas McLeods parents allegedly on a plane to Melbourne, could that mean he’s in the 23 .?

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                        I’d really like the midfield left as is for this game.

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                          • I like the idea of Whitelock coming on with 15 to go as a calm head to close it out, whether it be for a tiring Retallick, or for extra discipline over Scott Barrett.

                          • If McLeod's parents are on the plane, would be a fair indication he is playing - I'd expect him to be on the bench... I'd personally like the midfield left as is, I know ALB has struggled with a bit of illness the past week so perhaps he wasn't considered ready for a return?

                          • I thought Roigard would make the bench, but would be ballsy to have two debutants as back reserves

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                            • I like the idea of Whitelock coming on with 15 to go as a calm head to close it out, whether it be for a tiring Retallick, or for extra discipline over Scott Barrett.

                            • If McLeod's parents are on the plane, would be a fair indication he is playing - I'd expect him to be on the bench... I'd personally like the midfield left as is, I know ALB has struggled with a bit of illness the past week so perhaps he wasn't considered ready for a return?

                            • I thought Roigard would make the bench, but would be ballsy to have two debutants as back reserves

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                            @frugby said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                            • I thought Roigard would make the bench, but would be ballsy to have two debutants as back reserves

                            I know which debutant I would prefer to make the RWC squad. The only way McLeod is in France is at the expense of Ennor and/or Havili.

                            I'll be interested in which winger misses out in the XV - Telea or Clarke.

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                              @frugby said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                              • I thought Roigard would make the bench, but would be ballsy to have two debutants as back reserves

                              I know which debutant I would prefer to make the RWC squad. The only way McLeod is in France is at the expense of Ennor and/or Havili.

                              I'll be interested in which winger misses out in the XV - Telea or Clarke.

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                              @Bovidae There was a headline about being bold... perhaps Fozzy and co. really don't see the Aussies as a threat, and are confident worst case scenario they can trolley them under the roof.

                              Starting backline will be unchanged I'd think... would they go with McLeod and ALB on the bench?

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                                There is some rationale for using this match to rotate the midfield given the disruption to the Wallaby midfield. I wonder if Rieko is given a week off. I'd prefer not.

                                DMac at 15 could be another option meaning bench for both alb and dallas.

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                                  Narawa wont play (not fit), Leister maybe (only deemed fit this week), Stevenson in squad wont play (coaches don't like him) . Macleod hasn't played. ALB hasn't played. Coach doesn't award participation awards though as we have seen previously. So maybe not too many changes in starting backline, but I wouldn't be surprised to see 1 or 2 changes at max

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                                    I'd hope we would keep our current starting midfield to give them more time to gel and that McLeod will be on the bench.

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                                      It's good to see they are involving some of our greats too!!

                                      Given the coverage they are getting, it makes you think they havent done this before, and even more, why not?

                                      He's also worked closely with All Blacks great Conrad Smith, who's been with the team this week to share advice on his area of expertise for a very eager audience in a coaching cameo at Mt Smart.
                                      Smith won two World Cups as part of an iconic tandem with second-five Ma'a Nonu in 2011 and 2015, before stepping away from test rugby and opening the door for Lienert-Brown as his successor.
                                      "It's awesome to have a legend like him in the group," Lienert-Brown noted. "He doesn't say a lot, but I think when he does say something, it's pretty special and obviously the [midfielders] take that on board.
                                      "Just having his presence around the group is massive."

                                      https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2023/07/rugby-world-cup-anton-lienert-brown-leans-on-all-blacks-great-conrad-smith-before-potential-test-comeback.html

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                                        It's good to see they are involving some of our greats too!!

                                        Given the coverage they are getting, it makes you think they havent done this before, and even more, why not?

                                        He's also worked closely with All Blacks great Conrad Smith, who's been with the team this week to share advice on his area of expertise for a very eager audience in a coaching cameo at Mt Smart.
                                        Smith won two World Cups as part of an iconic tandem with second-five Ma'a Nonu in 2011 and 2015, before stepping away from test rugby and opening the door for Lienert-Brown as his successor.
                                        "It's awesome to have a legend like him in the group," Lienert-Brown noted. "He doesn't say a lot, but I think when he does say something, it's pretty special and obviously the [midfielders] take that on board.
                                        "Just having his presence around the group is massive."

                                        https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2023/07/rugby-world-cup-anton-lienert-brown-leans-on-all-blacks-great-conrad-smith-before-potential-test-comeback.html

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                                        @taniwharugby said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                        It's good to see they are involving some of our greats too!!

                                        Given the coverage they are getting, it makes you think they havent done this before, and even more, why not?

                                        Given our success against the boks Sir Ritchie should be flown to Europe for every pre game session later this year 😉

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                                          Sounds like it could be 9 McDermott 10 Gordon 13 Petaia 15 Kellaway and 23 Perese for the Wallabies.

                                          I think it's the right call. I can see Wallabies wide game stressing the ABs defence.

                                          https://www.theroar.com.au/2023/07/26/exclusive-carters-meteoric-rise-continues-with-young-gun-replacing-quade-at-no-10-tate-set-to-start/

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