Australia v All Blacks - Bled I

dogmeat

One of the things I like about the development of the team this year is we are starting to see depth off the bench, particularly with a couple of injured players to come back. Not very long ago the subs were a massive step down. Not so much now.

mariner4life

@dogmeat said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

One of the things I like about the development of the team this year is we are starting to see depth off the bench, particularly with a couple of injured players to come back. Not very long ago the subs were a massive step down. Not so much now.

yeah that's a sweet bench. We look so much better with the 3 locks playing as locks. So much of that obviously rests on Frizzell maintaining his form.

But ST, Whitelock and ALB off the bench, and even clark and ofa, that's serious impact.

Stag

Good team. But it should be out of either Whitelock or Barrett for the captaincy depending on who is on the paddock. Savea is a great player but not a captains Arsehole.

kiwiinmelb

Starting to get a much calmer feeling of trust when I read the names on the team sheet.

Wasn’t expecting that

bayimports

good team, looks like they will look to similar tactics to start like last week given the combination players. If we get up by some margin that bench looks like it could allow for different combos and tactics although clearly they are focused on win first

Frizz to hopefully continue momentum

taniwharugby

Probably the best bench we've put out for a bit?

I'd rather ST start, but Codie earned the start again, not much to complain about.

voodoo

This Foster bloke knows what he's doing eh?

foobaNZ

Happy for Roigard!

I still think Samisoni is our best hooker. That's the main change I'd make to what we're currently picking as our premier line up.

foobaNZ

Bench wise much stronger, but I'm not Ofa's biggest fan. Would rather one of the younger guys.

taniwharugby

@voodoo or more a slow learner...?

I also like Jacobson off the bench, but have to think this means DP and AS going 80?

mariner4life

@taniwharugby said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

or more a slow learner...?

lol what? The vast majority of the team have been in place for years.

voodoo

@taniwharugby said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

@voodoo or more a slow learner...?

I also like Jacobson off the bench, but have to think this means DP and AS going 80?

KiwiMurph

@taniwharugby said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

I also like Jacobson off the bench, but have to think this means DP and AS going 80?

They've got options. Jacobson could come on at 8 and AS could shift to 7. AS could get subbed and Whitelock comes on as captain. Jacobson could come on at 7 in place of Dalton (especially as Wallabies don't have an out and out 7 in the 23).

TheMojoman

I like it. Strong team, strengthening combos and consistent selection. Now they just have to perform on the day.

Bovidae

@KiwiMurph said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

@taniwharugby said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

I also like Jacobson off the bench, but have to think this means DP and AS going 80?

They've got options. Jacobson could come on at 8 and AS could shift to 7. AS could get subbed and Whitelock comes on as captain. Jacobson could come on at 7 in place of Dalton (especially as Wallabies don't have an out and out 7 in the 23).

Yeah, I was just typing something similar.

We also have to factor in whether SB replaces Frizell at 6, or he or BBBR are subbed for Whitelock.

sparky

Any announcement on how long Sam Cane is out for and how close to fitness he is?

Overall, I’m liking the look of that team.

Rancid Schnitzel

@Duluth said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

https://www.allblacks.com/news/ardie-savea-to-captain-all-blacks-against-australia-in-melbourne/

Ethan de Groot (15)

Codie Taylor (78)

Tyrel Lomax (25)

Brodie Retallick (101)

Scott Barrett (60)

Shannon Frizell (27)

Dalton Papali’i (24)

Ardie Savea (72 - captain)

Aaron Smith (116)

Richie Mo’unga (46)

Mark Telea (3)

Jordie Barrett (50)

Rieko Ioane (61)

Will Jordan (22)

Beauden Barrett (114)

Samisoni Taukei’aho (22)

Ofa Tu’ungfasi (51)

Nepo Laulala (47)

Samuel Whitelock (143)

Luke Jacobson (12)

Cam Roigard *

Anton Lienert-Brown (60)

Caleb Clarke (17)

Canes4life

I think we've missed a trick with no DMac on the bench. Surely he's the sort of player that will tear Aussie to shreds in the last 20 mins, be it at 10 or 15.

taniwharugby

@KiwiMurph is more that AS hasnt moved to 7 much in recent years, and Jacobson is more a 6/8 as well, although DP is more a 6/7 anyway...although we have moved from the 'traditional' out and out 7 anyway, IMO we are probably closer to running with 3 6.somethings, but just starting from a different spot.

AS usually goes 80, does Frizell often go 80, meaning this is more likely where LJ will go?

Sure plenty of options there, including a 'worst case' scenario of SW going to lock, SB to 6 and then LJ to 6/7 or 8....

TheMojoman

@Canes4life said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

I think we've missed a trick with no DMac on the bench. Surely he's the sort of player that will tear Aussie to shreds in the last 20 mins, be it at 10 or 15.

Agreed. As much as I like Caleb Clarke he’s a waste on the bench ie, no flexibility. DMac would’ve been much better.

The Silver Fern

Australia v All Blacks - Bled I