Too horrific for words - Moko Rangitoheriri case
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<div>The problem is that NZ is not prepared to actually address the various elephants in the room with this.</div>
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<div>1/Race - Maori are way over represented in these stats. But you get white urbanites with cultural guilt and politicians squashng any real discussion on it. There is is of course many iwi, kaumatua and Maori community groups who know the issue and do more than anyone else!</div>
<div>2/ Women are heavily involved in these cases, yet we have a domestic abuse campaign that focuses nearly entirely on males. It is doesn't need to be 50/50, but society needs to accept that nowadays females can be just as brutal and callous as any man. And people need to be protected from others regardless of gender.</div>
<div>3/ We need to look at the warning signs earlier and stop pandering to them. Example. Food in schools, complete and utter nonsense. Feeding your child should be every single parents number ONE priority bar none. Every single parent in NZ gets enough money to feed their children. Every single one. They are choosing to not feed their children. That is child abuse. Any decent parent would go hungry before they dont feed their own child. But instead we have the bleating about hungry kids and allowing child abuse by parking an ambulance at the bottom of the cliff.. by feeding kids at school! Now... we can feed them, but it needs to be noted and after just a few instances, be treated as child abuse. If a parent cares enough to pack a solid lunch for their child every day, feed them a good breakfast.. they probably care enough to make sure they are not beaten to death. If they dont care enough to feed their child.... chances are they are a shit parent. And without exception every person who murders a child is a shit parent.</div>
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<div>As for the protests, they mean squat. Oh woopdy fucking doo.. people walked down the street lamenting a murdered child, means nothing except to make themselves superior and more caring. Fuck off. I have a million times more respect for those iwi groups and community groups that actually work on this issue every day against huge odds. </div>
<div>Until NZ accepts that there are indicators and some of those indicators fly in the face of the image we hold of ourselves as a country.. these deaths will keep coming. All the heartfelt marches wont change anything. You think an abusive parent is going to look at those and say.. shit better change my ways? Do people who watch that think to themselves.. 'gee I was on the fence but now I am really against child abuse!'?</div>
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<div>But not much will change, as to address any of these issue would be forcing people to look at a NZ that they dont want to see. </div>
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<p>This</p>
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<p>Ever time theres a shooting spree in the states people here like to pour scorn on the yanks and ask why this keeps happening but ignoring the fact our kids die with monotonous regularity and you can almost script the circumstances. Kid in poor family [quite likely to be maori, they are way over represented in the stats] killed by stepdad/mums boyfriend after weeks of escalating violence and the mother either doesn't know or ignores whats going on until its too late. Cue public outrage , a story or two about the dead kid and it dies down till the next one.</p>
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<p>Like I said Mokos mum has a few questions of her own to answer and which understandably no one has asked. Firstly I don't believe that she didn't know the father of the kids was a gang member till the wedding night, what bullshit, she didn't visit the kids for two months, didn't think it was odd that she wasn't allowed to talk to the kids for two weeks and CPYS still won't give back her kids who are with a relative who spoke out despite the fact she expects retribution from the family for going public-she just wants the kids to be safe. Here's her lawyer going public trying to use the media to get the kids back, pay attention at around 3:43 where she stumbles over the "other things" comment. <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.newshub.co.nz/tvshows/story/what-kind-of-person-is-mokos-mum-2016051618#axzz4DhYB2xZj'>http://www.newshub.co.nz/tvshows/story/what-kind-of-person-is-mokos-mum-2016051618#axzz4DhYB2xZj</a></p> -
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Mokos mum was a drug dealer who sold to Shaeler, although she had no idea they would kill her child she must have had s fair idea just how feral they were. -
<p>vomits repeatedly</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/82405910/little-moko-rangitoheriris-killer-appeals-for-reduced-jail-time-saying-3yearolds-death-was-result-of-his-own-bad-behaviour'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/82405910/little-moko-rangitoheriris-killer-appeals-for-reduced-jail-time-saying-3yearolds-death-was-result-of-his-own-bad-behaviour</a></p>
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<p>Man I wish someone would be cleaning a firearm in her vicinity and accidentally put five bullets in her fucking sack of shit skull. Or at least that the appeals court judge spits on the request and sends her to the worst women's prison in the country. A reduction for early guilty plea and 'genuine remorse' FUCK OFF.</p> -
That's beyond taking the piss.
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="jegga" data-cid="595802" data-time="1468182204">
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://m.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11670490'>http://m.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11670490</a><br><br>
Mokos mum was a drug dealer who sold to Shaeler, although she had no idea they would kill her child she must have had s fair idea just how feral they were.</p>
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<p>His mum didn't have a direct hand in the death but she has to exercise better judgement than that</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="jegga" data-cid="599694" data-time="1469328225">
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<p>Disappointing on some levels to see she's still alive . Hope the judge adds on a couple of years.</p>
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<p>She needs to suffer the same fate as Antonie Dixon</p>
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<p>Samurai sword attacker and convicted killer Antonie Dixon, who died in prison this morning, was seen by a psychiatrist just hours before his death.</p>
<p>Dixon died in Paremoremo Prison in the early morning. He was due in court this morning.</p>
<p><strong>A prison source told NZPA Dixon had suffered head and neck injuries</strong>.</p>
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<p>vomits repeatedly</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/82405910/little-moko-rangitoheriris-killer-appeals-for-reduced-jail-time-saying-3yearolds-death-was-result-of-his-own-bad-behaviour'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/82405910/little-moko-rangitoheriris-killer-appeals-for-reduced-jail-time-saying-3yearolds-death-was-result-of-his-own-bad-behaviour</a></p>
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<p>Man I wish someone would be cleaning a firearm in her vicinity and accidentally put five bullets in her fucking sack of shit skull. Or at least that the appeals court judge spits on the request and sends her to the worst women's prison in the country. A reduction for early guilty plea and 'genuine remorse' FUCK OFF.</p>
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<p>I can't remember which story I read it in, but basically she was predicted to get less than the guy, so I guess it's not surprising for that reason alone.</p>
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<p>I don't blame either of them for appealing - it's their legal right to do so, and since Manslaughter sentencing is largely dictated by case law, this gives some guidance in future cases, especially if the Court of Appeal increases the sentence as I hope they do.</p> -
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Her partner is appealing now too isn't he?</p></blockquote>
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I don't think it has been formally announced, but his lawyer indicated it was likely. I hope he gets a longer sentence as well. -
<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/faces-of-innocents/82586709/faces-of-innocents-high-rates-of-child-abuse-among-maori-can-be-traced-back-to-colonisation-academic-says'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/faces-of-innocents/82586709/faces-of-innocents-high-rates-of-child-abuse-among-maori-can-be-traced-back-to-colonisation-academic-says</a></p>
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<p>Thats pretty weak really.</p>
