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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="jegga" data-cid="600213" data-time="1469477395">
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    <p>I don't see it happening either like the video I linked to said if we did it would be our equivalent of the moon landing.<br>
    i see there being more stoat and possum free places like Zealania though, I'm working about 5 km and there's loads of kaka and kereru around here that I guess go back there to roost at night.</p>
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    <p>I don't see us achieving the goals but I applaud us for setting it.  Going to a predator free area and listen to the dawn (or evening chorus). Its magical and most people would pay a lot to have that across the country</p>
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    <p>Where's Zealania?</p>
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    <p>Only pest free place I have been to is Wairaki golf course! Although they have some deer in there which I would argue is a pest.</p>
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    <p>I went into an area in Mt Aspiring National Park that had been fenced to keep deer out.  The difference between it and the areas that bambi could graze was remarkable.  Everyone has a mental image of a south island forest floor - inside the enclosure was like a jungle. </p>
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    <p>Those delicious ruminants sure cause a lot of damage with their browsing. Cull the buggers and make sure it gets to my dinner table</p>

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    <p>New Zealand is also going to be smoke free by 2025. Goals should be tough but achievable; this goal is basically impossible. I would love if it could happen though.</p>

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Hooroo" data-cid="600211" data-time="1469476885">
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    <p>Really,? I see it easier to eradicate in urban areas than rural. Accessibility to laying baits etc in urban areas rather than gridding out the bush and farm lands</p>
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    <p>Yes. We already have a pretty good track record of being able to do it on the islands etc around Auckland in particular. <span><span><span><span><span>Getting rats out of the bush is pretty straight forward and achievable with the right amount of resources, it can even be done without poison, refer </span><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.scoop.co.nz%2Fstories%2FBU1402%2FS00802%2Funprecedented-0-pest-survival-rate-in-doc-rat-control-trial.htm&h=gAQF8q2We'>http://www.scoop.co.nz/.../unprecedented-0-pest-survival...</a></span></span></span></span></p>
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    <p><span><span><span><span>Urban eradication though is pretty uncharted territory. Places like Auckland city would be a massive task!</span></span></span></span></p>

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    <p>I can't even get the fuckers out of my shed. Only thing that seems to work is a cat but then Gawef Morgan will pack a sad</p>

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="dogmeat" data-cid="600221" data-time="1469478740">
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    <p>I can't even get the fuckers out of my shed. Only thing that seems to work is a cat but then Gawef Morgan will pack a sad</p>
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    <p>Have you laid the bait in a pouch stuff?  They flock to it.... once!  They eat it and get thirsty and drink and die real quick.</p>

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="dogmeat" data-cid="600216" data-time="1469478054"><p>I don't see us achieving the goals but I applaud us for setting it.  Going to a predator free area and listen to the dawn (or evening chorus). Its magical and most people would pay a lot to have that across the country<br>
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     <br>
    I went into an area in Mt Aspiring National Park that had been fenced to keep deer out.  The difference between it and the areas that bambi could graze was remarkable.  Everyone has a mental image of a south island forest floor - inside the enclosure was like a jungle. <br><br><br>
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    Those delicious ruminants sure cause a lot of damage with their browsing. Cull the buggers and make sure it gets to my dinner table</p></blockquote>
    <a class="bbc_url" href="http://i.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/capital-life/10080858/Good-bush-regeneration-takes-time">http://i.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/capital-life/10080858/Good-bush-regeneration-takes-time</a>

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Hooroo" data-cid="600224" data-time="1469479239">
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    <p>Have you laid the bait in a pouch stuff?  They flock to it.... once!  They eat it and get thirsty and drink and die real quick.</p>
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    <p>Yeah. Paid a fortune for all sorts of traps but never get the whole population so they die back and then reappear.</p>
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    <p>Apparently the fuckers will take the bait back to the nest but not al the population will eat it until they check out that those that do survive. Cunning bastards</p>

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    <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.backyardkiwi.org.nz/'>http://www.backyardkiwi.org.nz/</a></p>
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    <p>Have done a great job of eradicating pests form a part of the Whangarei Heads (and educating locals about dogs)</p>
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    <p>I went to a release they did a couple of years back (that they do regularly anyway) and is a really heartwarming thing to see.</p>
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    <p>When we were renting out near the above area where Kiwis were in the bush (you hear them at night - if you haven't heard Kiwi before at night, it is quite eerie to hear them) one of my cats bought in stoats.</p>

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    <p>I'm lucky enough to live 2 minutes from a remnant kauri forest even though I'm only 5 kms from Queen St  so I do get a reasonable diversity of birdlife.  Really like lying in bed listening to the ruru or hearing the slow ponderous gravity defying swoosh of a keruru</p>

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    <p>About 15 years ago my neighbours bought their kid a pet stoat WTF</p>
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    <p>Kiwi at night sound great. Loved mooring the yacht in an isolated bay and hearing them cry out. The peacocks on Kawau - not so much</p>

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    <p>I have a mate who works for DOC in the coromandel ranges and we often go stay at his little hut up near Port Charles when we go fishing over that way. They've done a lot of work there eradicating the pests and the bird life there is just amazing. So dam loud too, especially the Kaka.</p>

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    <p>the place we were renting was in 7 acres of dense native forest, and the birdlife we saw (but strangely, no where near as loud as they are where we are now) was amazing...at night, the place had a huge high window, and the lights in the house attracted the Puriri moth, which in turn attracted Morepork, you could sit there and watch the Morepork swoop in and take the Moths</p>

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    <p>Looks cool.</p>

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Hooroo" data-cid="600208" data-time="1469476643">
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    <p>It would be a hell of an achievement. I just don't see it happeneing.</p>
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    <p>As I grow up.... I find I no longer swerve to hit possums and rabbits on the road but if I see a stoat or ferret, I line them up.</p>
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    <p>We jsut did an eradication across the farm of Rats as they were starting to cost us a bit in the amount of feed they ruined. It's incredible how many are out there.</p>
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    <p>Completely off topic but I have to laugh at all the Vegans that "care so much about animals they refuse to eat meat!" yet all of the grains they are eating result in millions and millions of deaths to rodents via pest control. I guess they value some animals lives more then others.</p>

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Hooroo" data-cid="600214" data-time="1469477555"><p>Where's Zealania?<br><br>
    Only pest free place I have been to is Wairaki golf course! Although they have some deer in there which I would argue is a pest.</p></blockquote>
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    Maungatautari sanctuary isn't too far from you Hooroo. <br><br>
    Pest fenced and all the nasties gone. Amazing how the birds come back strong. <br><br>
    When we were in the hills out of Cambridge we would be lucky to see a Tui. Now they are around everywhere. <br><br>
    Same in Welly. The Karori sanctuary has increased numbers enough that bird populations all over the place are exploding. We have Tui and Kereru in big numbers out in UH and in the last 5 years we have gone from seeing the odd Bellbird (Korimako) to having pairs nesting in our garden.

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    A mate of mine does pest control fir doc and said before pakeha got here there were no bees so lizards and birds were vital for pollinating flowers . <br><br>
    Apparently some numpties have complained about the amount of noise coming from the birds in Zealandia at dawn , which I guess is a kind of back handed compliment . Other people who live close by like go into their backyard at night and listen to the sound of kiwis only 5 minutes drive from thd beehive .

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Hooroo" data-cid="600214" data-time="1469477555">
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    <p>Where's Zealania?</p>
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    <p>Only pest free place I have been to is Wairaki golf course! Although they have some deer in there <strong>which I would argue is a pest.</strong></p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>a tasty pest!</p>

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    <p>This is awesome. Bloody love NZ. Smoke free and pest free within a generation. It's awesome we're even trying, let alone there being a chance of actually pulling it off.</p>

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    <p>these are the kind of noisy neighbours you want</p>
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    <p>doesnt really do it justice, but you get the idea</p>
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    <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://www.dropbox.com/sc/32g73t6bdxrtfdg/AADHd4aJV3pDmo5o0dNbXwbXa'>https://www.dropbox.com/sc/32g73t6bdxrtfdg/AADHd4aJV3pDmo5o0dNbXwbXa</a></p>

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    <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.thesundaily.my/news/1911656'>http://www.thesundaily.my/news/1911656</a></p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>I like this approach. Aussies killing 300 feral goats by introducing 4 male dingos to some island. And the dingos have cyanide capsules that trigger after 2 years. Last time the tried it the dingos killed <strong><em>3,000 </em></strong>goats in 2 years. But then it took them 15 years to kill the dingos.</p>

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