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All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II

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  • NTAN NTA

    ABs by 40

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    @NTA said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

    ABs by 4050

    Let’s be realistic

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      ABs by 40

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      @NTA said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

      ABs by 40

      Nah. Aussies have played pretty well under the roof in times past. We lost our last test there too.

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      • BovidaeB Bovidae

        LF is available this week, but the fact he is leaving could count against him in a close selection decision.

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        @Bovidae said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

        LF is available this week, but the fact he is leaving could count against him in a close selection decision.

        I would think the fact the WC squad is named on Monday works in LF's chances of getting a game, so he can be looked at.

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          @Bovidae said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

          LF is available this week, but the fact he is leaving could count against him in a close selection decision.

          I would think the fact the WC squad is named on Monday works in LF's chances of getting a game, so he can be looked at.

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          @Dan54 I think the decision has been made... and it may be that they pick LF, but I can't see it.

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            @Dan54 I think the decision has been made... and it may be that they pick LF, but I can't see it.

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            @frugby Hard to say given Leicester has been injured. They did include him in the squad proper so he's in the frame. A storming game on Saturday could see him in the RWC squad.

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            • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

              @NTA said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

              ABs by 40

              Nah. Aussies have played pretty well under the roof in times past. We lost our last test there too.

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              @ACT-Crusader Which says the All Blacks will want to make amends for that, particularly with so many players having their last game at home.

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              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                @frugby Hard to say given Leicester has been injured. They did include him in the squad proper so he's in the frame. A storming game on Saturday could see him in the RWC squad.

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                @KiwiMurph This is my point though. They'll have already decided one way or another - and it is entirely possible that they take Telea, Clarke and Fainga'anuku.

                And of course, they might have decided on 33 players on the assumption Blackadder, Cane, Narawa, Havili etc. prove fitness.

                Considering Sevu Reece seems to be with the team at the moment, wonder if we'll see Havili and Blackadder pop up in some training photos?

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                  @KiwiMurph This is my point though. They'll have already decided one way or another - and it is entirely possible that they take Telea, Clarke and Fainga'anuku.

                  And of course, they might have decided on 33 players on the assumption Blackadder, Cane, Narawa, Havili etc. prove fitness.

                  Considering Sevu Reece seems to be with the team at the moment, wonder if we'll see Havili and Blackadder pop up in some training photos?

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                  @frugby Sevu Reece is only with the team, because the team is based in Christchurch at the moment, which is where he lives.

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                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                    @frugby Sevu Reece is only with the team, because the team is based in Christchurch at the moment, which is where he lives.

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                    @Stargazer I realise this, but I'd assume Havili and Blackadder live in Christchurch as a permanent home, even if they are training with Ta$man at the moment (they'll be based there currently).

                    Particularly Blackadder if he still isn't fit yet.

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                    • frugbyF frugby

                      @Stargazer I realise this, but I'd assume Havili and Blackadder live in Christchurch as a permanent home, even if they are training with Ta$man at the moment (they'll be based there currently).

                      Particularly Blackadder if he still isn't fit yet.

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                      @frugby Christchurch isn't the permanent home of Havili and Blackadder. They're from, and based in, Ta$man.

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                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                        @frugby Christchurch isn't the permanent home of Havili and Blackadder. They're from, and based in, Ta$man.

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                        @Stargazer You reckon they live there? I'd be surprised, most of the Super players (particularly the good ones) live in the main centres.

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                        • frugbyF frugby

                          @Stargazer You reckon they live there? I'd be surprised, most of the Super players (particularly the good ones) live in the main centres.

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                          @frugby Yeah, Ta$man is home for them. Not Christchurch. It's the same for a lot of SR players, who play their NPC outside the SR main centres.

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                            @frugby Yeah, Ta$man is home for them. Not Christchurch. It's the same for a lot of SR players, who play their NPC outside the SR main centres.

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                            @Stargazer Genuinely curious, what evidence do you have of this? From what I can tell Havili lives with his GF in a house in ChCh.

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                              @Stargazer Genuinely curious, what evidence do you have of this? From what I can tell Havili lives with his GF in a house in ChCh.

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                              @frugby I know this because that's what they're showing on their socials, because they're going back home whenever they can, because it's what they've said publically.

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                                @frugby I know this because that's what they're showing on their socials, because they're going back home whenever they can, because it's what they've said publically.

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                                @Stargazer
                                True for some Scott Barrett for instance owns a house in CHCh not in the Taranaki
                                as he spends most of his time there
                                Will Jordan too lives in Chch and owns a house there near his parents and extended family.

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                                  @Stargazer
                                  True for some Scott Barrett for instance owns a house in CHCh not in the Taranaki
                                  as he spends most of his time there
                                  Will Jordan too lives in Chch and owns a house there near his parents and extended family.

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                                  @Chris First of all, I didn't say it's the same for all players. Second, distance will play a role. It's easier to drive up from Chch to Nelson. To go to rural Taranaki requires taking a plane and then a drive out of New Plymouth. It will also depend on their partner. If their partner has a job in the SR main centre and can't get a few days off, or a player has children that go to school there, then he'll probably stay there for that reason.

                                  I know of plenty of Hawke's Bay players returning home from Auckland, Hamilton and Wellington during a bye week or when injured. It's harder from Dunedin, but know several of them will always consider Dunedin as their home away from home. I see the same with players from the Canes who return to Manawatū, Auckland or BOP.

                                  Anyway, the initial comment/question was about Havili and Blackadder, and I know Ta$man is home for them.

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                                    @Chris First of all, I didn't say it's the same for all players. Second, distance will play a role. It's easier to drive up from Chch to Nelson. To go to rural Taranaki requires taking a plane and then a drive out of New Plymouth. It will also depend on their partner. If their partner has a job in the SR main centre and can't get a few days off, or a player has children that go to school there, then he'll probably stay there for that reason.

                                    I know of plenty of Hawke's Bay players returning home from Auckland, Hamilton and Wellington during a bye week or when injured. It's harder from Dunedin, but know several of them will always consider Dunedin as their home away from home. I see the same with players from the Canes who return to Manawatū, Auckland or BOP.

                                    Anyway, the initial comment/question was about Havili and Blackadder, and I know Ta$man is home for them.

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                                    @Stargazer It's often different for All Blacks though, because they don't play NPC, so are living out of a suitcase half the time, living 7 months+ of the year at their Super home base, and then spending the rest (Dec-Early Jan) on holiday, which may be at home, or their original home, or somewhere totally different.

                                    It slightly differs for the younger players who don't live with GFs/have kids, who often just flat together. Folau Fakatava is one like that I think, but as I say, I'd be stunned if Havili, who has played for the Crusaders for 10 years doesn't live in Christchurch.

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                                      @Chris First of all, I didn't say it's the same for all players. Second, distance will play a role. It's easier to drive up from Chch to Nelson. To go to rural Taranaki requires taking a plane and then a drive out of New Plymouth. It will also depend on their partner. If their partner has a job in the SR main centre and can't get a few days off, or a player has children that go to school there, then he'll probably stay there for that reason.

                                      I know of plenty of Hawke's Bay players returning home from Auckland, Hamilton and Wellington during a bye week or when injured. It's harder from Dunedin, but know several of them will always consider Dunedin as their home away from home. I see the same with players from the Canes who return to Manawatū, Auckland or BOP.

                                      Anyway, the initial comment/question was about Havili and Blackadder, and I know Ta$man is home for them.

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                                      @Stargazer

                                      Well I did say true for some, I was not disagreeing on Havilli and Blackadder just giving examples of not true for all.

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                                      • frugbyF frugby

                                        @Stargazer It's often different for All Blacks though, because they don't play NPC, so are living out of a suitcase half the time, living 7 months+ of the year at their Super home base, and then spending the rest (Dec-Early Jan) on holiday, which may be at home, or their original home, or somewhere totally different.

                                        It slightly differs for the younger players who don't live with GFs/have kids, who often just flat together. Folau Fakatava is one like that I think, but as I say, I'd be stunned if Havili, who has played for the Crusaders for 10 years doesn't live in Christchurch.

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                                        @frugby said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

                                        I'd be stunned if Havili, who has played for the Crusaders for 10 years doesn't live in Christchurch

                                        Yes, from January to June.

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                                          top quality input here

                                          which South Island dump they call home is definitely a big factor

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