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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    Gregor is a bit slow on the news as the JH story was reported over a month ago.

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    • BovidaeB Bovidae

      Gregor is a bit slow on the news as the JH story was reported over a month ago.

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      @Bovidae There was a further update:

      Having raised multiple concerns about the detail of the deal, and suggesting it wouldn’t commit, RA then stunned NZR when it signed the agreement before the June 30 deadline.

      While that should have triggered NZR to do the same, it decided against signing until it was satisfied that RA was genuinely committed.

      NZR feared RA had signed not because it was suddenly content with the arrangements, but because it was under pressure to show to potential private equity investors that it has long-term stability and certainty about where its clubs will be playing for the next seven years.

      Because of this need to gain a deeper assurance about RA’s true position, NZR asked it for a month-long extension to sign the long-form document.

      It wanted time to work through with RA which areas of the proposal it wasn’t happy with and to see if they could agree compromises and amendments that would set both parties up to work more effectively with one another post-signing.

      RA granted them just one week, which came and went with no signed document, leading RA chair Hamish McLennan to tell the Herald: “Isn’t it ironic that Australia has been accused of dragging its feet on contractual negotiations on Super Rugby Pacific.

      “RA and its Super clubs met the agreed deadline with a signed long-form contract and NZR asked for an extension.”

      McLennan signed off by saying: “I hope Robbo enjoyed Noosa,” in reference to the fact the NZR chief executive enjoyed a family holiday on the Sunshine Coast in early July.

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      • KiwiMurphK Offline
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        The Roar was reporting that Waugh has been in NZ working with NZR in the last week or so.

        Both sides are as bad as each other and both seem to run to the press to air their dirty laundry - NZR through Gregor Paul and RA through Decent/Doran etc.

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          Because of this need to gain a deeper assurance about RA’s true position, NZR asked it for a month-long extension to sign the long-form document.

          What sort of crap is that from NZR? If they are signing it for 'nefarious' reasons, a month long extension is not going to make them say 'you got us, we only signed to get the third party money'. NZR are such a bunch of dufuses.

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            Because of this need to gain a deeper assurance about RA’s true position, NZR asked it for a month-long extension to sign the long-form document.

            What sort of crap is that from NZR? If they are signing it for 'nefarious' reasons, a month long extension is not going to make them say 'you got us, we only signed to get the third party money'. NZR are such a bunch of dufuses.

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            @Machpants said in Super Rugby 2024:

            Because of this need to gain a deeper assurance about RA’s true position, NZR asked it for a month-long extension to sign the long-form document.

            What sort of crap is that from NZR? If they are signing it for 'nefarious' reasons, a month long extension is not going to make them say 'you got us, we only signed to get the third party money'. NZR are such a bunch of dufuses.

            Bingo. Surely the signing of a long term binding agreement is a deep assurance in and of itself? This sounds like spin by NZR after assuming RA wouldn't sign and then got caught when they did sign.

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            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

              The Roar was reporting that Waugh has been in NZ working with NZR in the last week or so.

              Both sides are as bad as each other and both seem to run to the press to air their dirty laundry - NZR through Gregor Paul and RA through Decent/Doran etc.

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              @KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby 2024:

              The Roar was reporting that Waugh has been in NZ working with NZR in the last week or so.

              Both sides are as bad as each other and both seem to run to the press to air their dirty laundry - NZR through Gregor Paul and RA through Decent/Doran etc.

              you're right, theyre both childish...I honestly think i would get behind a break away comp

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              • StargazerS Offline
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                https://brumbies.rugby/news/safeguard-global-act-brumbies-to-embark-on-twogame-tour-of-japan-2023724

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                  Former Exeter Chiefs and England international scrumhalf Jack Maunder has confirmed that he has signed with Australian Super Rugby franchise the Melbourne Rebels.

                  Joining the Australian outfit ahead of the 2024 season, the 26-year-old Maunder will link up with former teammate and current Rebels assistant coach Geoff Parling.

                  Making his debut on England’s 2017 tour of Argentina, the Premiership winning scrumhalf would only feature for three minutes.
                  This was his only appearance for England’s senior national side. He has expressed his excitement at experiencing another rugby culture.

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                    The Western Force have signed 22 year old Botswanian twin Brother Props Bami and Basi Malesu from Pau. Soon there will be more imports than Aussies at the Force.
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                      #289

                      According to 'The Roar' Alex Hodgman has signed with the Reds for next season.

                      https://www.theroar.com.au/2023/08/02/exclusive-reds-sign-all-blacks-prop-to-help-ease-tupou-blow-joc-signs-extension-deal/

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                      • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                        According to 'The Roar' Alex Hodgman has signed with the Reds for next season.

                        https://www.theroar.com.au/2023/08/02/exclusive-reds-sign-all-blacks-prop-to-help-ease-tupou-blow-joc-signs-extension-deal/

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                        @Daffy-Jaffy said in Super Rugby 2024:

                        According to 'The Roar' Alex Hodgeman has signed with the Reds for next season.

                        https://www.theroar.com.au/2023/08/02/exclusive-reds-sign-all-blacks-prop-to-help-ease-tupou-blow-joc-signs-extension-deal/

                        That is weird I thought the Blues would want to keep him.

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                          they're sticking with Melbourne for the super round...more poor crowds but at least i'll get to see the landers

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                          • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                            they're sticking with Melbourne for the super round...more poor crowds but at least i'll get to see the landers

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                            @Kiwiwomble Geez, the money must be good, because I can't think of any other reason to pick Melbourne again.

                            Is this some kind of bargaining chip? Give Rugby Australia this, and what will NZR get in return? Because it's unfair on NZ franchises and their fans, because there will always be Kiwi teams that have part with one of their home games.

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                              Sweet - more live rugby in Melbourne.

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                              • StargazerS Stargazer

                                @Kiwiwomble Geez, the money must be good, because I can't think of any other reason to pick Melbourne again.

                                Is this some kind of bargaining chip? Give Rugby Australia this, and what will NZR get in return? Because it's unfair on NZ franchises and their fans, because there will always be Kiwi teams that have part with one of their home games.

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                                #294

                                @Stargazer it’s mostly funded by local gov. I doubt other cities are interested paying for it

                                The teams that give up home games get paid too ($350k I think was the amount one year)

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                                • DuluthD Duluth

                                  @Stargazer it’s mostly funded by local gov. I doubt other cities are interested paying for it

                                  The teams that give up home games get paid too ($350k I think was the amount one year)

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                                  #295

                                  @Duluth Yeah, that's why I said "the money must be good". But stuff the fans.

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                                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                                    @Duluth Yeah, that's why I said "the money must be good". But stuff the fans.

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                                    @Stargazer said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                    @Duluth Yeah, that's why I said "the money must be good". But stuff the fans.

                                    in fairness some aussies teams lose their home games too, would be the case where ever a super round is held

                                    i still think late season round at suncorp would be god (assuming it has to be aus as part of some deal) some actual rivalry between QLD and NSW so rig the draw so they play...and kiwis might be more tempted by a long weekend in QLD than melbourne

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                                    • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                                      The Western Force have signed 22 year old Botswanian twin Brother Props Bami and Basi Malesu from Pau. Soon there will be more imports than Aussies at the Force.
                                      cca4d5df-4c36-44e5-bce6-13e5319eb478-image.png

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                                      @Daffy-Jaffy said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                      The Western Force have signed 22 year old Botswanian twin Brother Props Bami and Basi Malesu from Pau. Soon there will be more imports than Aussies at the Force.
                                      cca4d5df-4c36-44e5-bce6-13e5319eb478-image.png

                                      I have no problems with this, it is best way for Aus teams to be more competitive.

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                                      • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                                        The Western Force have signed 22 year old Botswanian twin Brother Props Bami and Basi Malesu from Pau. Soon there will be more imports than Aussies at the Force.
                                        cca4d5df-4c36-44e5-bce6-13e5319eb478-image.png

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                                        @Daffy-Jaffy said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                        The Western Force have signed 22 year old Botswanian twin Brother Props Bami and Basi Malesu from Pau. Soon there will be more imports than Aussies at the Force.
                                        cca4d5df-4c36-44e5-bce6-13e5319eb478-image.png

                                        My condolences to the commentators.

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                                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                                          @Kiwiwomble Geez, the money must be good, because I can't think of any other reason to pick Melbourne again.

                                          Is this some kind of bargaining chip? Give Rugby Australia this, and what will NZR get in return? Because it's unfair on NZ franchises and their fans, because there will always be Kiwi teams that have part with one of their home games.

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                                          @Stargazer said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                          @Kiwiwomble Geez, the money must be good, because I can't think of any other reason to pick Melbourne again.

                                          Is this some kind of bargaining chip? Give Rugby Australia this, and what will NZR get in return? Because it's unfair on NZ franchises and their fans, because there will always be Kiwi teams that have part with one of their home games.

                                          They have a little more spare money after walking out on the Comm Games

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