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  • gt12G gt12

    @antipodean said in Rugby World Cup news:

    @booboo said in Rugby World Cup news:

    Doesn't a tackle create an offside line?

    Or just a gate?

    Offside line.

    I don't understand why they aren't in breach of 14.8c

    8. Other players must :
    a. Remain on their feet and release the ball and the ball-carrier immediately.
    b. Remain on their feet when they play the ball.
    c. Arrive at the tackle from the direction of their own goal line before playing the ball.
    d. Not play the ball or attempt to tackle an opponent while on the ground
    near the tackle.
    

    I guess the purpose is to avoid an offside line being formed to get around law 14.10? I think it's very flimsy but if they take out the player before they are over the ball, there may not be an offside line?

    Offside lines are created at a tackle when at least one player is on their feet and over the ball, which is on the ground. Each team ís offside line runs parallel to the goal line through the hindmost point of any player in the tackle or on their feet over the ball. If that point is on or behind the goal line, the offside line for that team is the goal line.
    
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    #244

    @gt12 said in Rugby World Cup news:

    @antipodean said in Rugby World Cup news:

    @booboo said in Rugby World Cup news:

    Doesn't a tackle create an offside line?

    Or just a gate?

    Offside line.

    I don't understand why they aren't in breach of 14.8c

    8. Other players must :
    a. Remain on their feet and release the ball and the ball-carrier immediately.
    b. Remain on their feet when they play the ball.
    c. Arrive at the tackle from the direction of their own goal line before playing the ball.
    d. Not play the ball or attempt to tackle an opponent while on the ground
    near the tackle.
    

    I guess the purpose is to avoid an offside line being formed to get around law 14.10? I think it's very flimsy but if they take out the player before they are over the ball, there may not be an offside line?

    Offside lines are created at a tackle when at least one player is on their feet and over the ball, which is on the ground. Each team ís offside line runs parallel to the goal line through the hindmost point of any player in the tackle or on their feet over the ball. If that point is on or behind the goal line, the offside line for that team is the goal line.
    

    More generally, when was the last time you saw innovation like this from NZ teams? Feels like we are reacting to the world these days, not innovating with new ideas, systems or loophole exploitation

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    • BonesB Bones

      Ireland already distracted, lording it up in Portugal with the rich and famous.

      Cunch of bunts.

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      @Bones said in Rugby World Cup news:

      Ireland already distracted, lording it up in Portugal with the rich and famous.

      Cunch of bunts.

      FB_IMG_1691762477136.jpg

      Reminds me of us holidaying in the middle of RWC 2007(?)

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      • nzzpN nzzp

        @gt12 said in Rugby World Cup news:

        @antipodean said in Rugby World Cup news:

        @booboo said in Rugby World Cup news:

        Doesn't a tackle create an offside line?

        Or just a gate?

        Offside line.

        I don't understand why they aren't in breach of 14.8c

        8. Other players must :
        a. Remain on their feet and release the ball and the ball-carrier immediately.
        b. Remain on their feet when they play the ball.
        c. Arrive at the tackle from the direction of their own goal line before playing the ball.
        d. Not play the ball or attempt to tackle an opponent while on the ground
        near the tackle.
        

        I guess the purpose is to avoid an offside line being formed to get around law 14.10? I think it's very flimsy but if they take out the player before they are over the ball, there may not be an offside line?

        Offside lines are created at a tackle when at least one player is on their feet and over the ball, which is on the ground. Each team ís offside line runs parallel to the goal line through the hindmost point of any player in the tackle or on their feet over the ball. If that point is on or behind the goal line, the offside line for that team is the goal line.
        

        More generally, when was the last time you saw innovation like this from NZ teams? Feels like we are reacting to the world these days, not innovating with new ideas, systems or loophole exploitation

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        wrote on last edited by
        #246

        @nzzp said in Rugby World Cup news:

        @gt12 said in Rugby World Cup news:

        @antipodean said in Rugby World Cup news:

        @booboo said in Rugby World Cup news:

        Doesn't a tackle create an offside line?

        Or just a gate?

        Offside line.

        I don't understand why they aren't in breach of 14.8c

        8. Other players must :
        a. Remain on their feet and release the ball and the ball-carrier immediately.
        b. Remain on their feet when they play the ball.
        c. Arrive at the tackle from the direction of their own goal line before playing the ball.
        d. Not play the ball or attempt to tackle an opponent while on the ground
        near the tackle.
        

        I guess the purpose is to avoid an offside line being formed to get around law 14.10? I think it's very flimsy but if they take out the player before they are over the ball, there may not be an offside line?

        Offside lines are created at a tackle when at least one player is on their feet and over the ball, which is on the ground. Each team ís offside line runs parallel to the goal line through the hindmost point of any player in the tackle or on their feet over the ball. If that point is on or behind the goal line, the offside line for that team is the goal line.
        

        More generally, when was the last time you saw innovation like this from NZ teams? Feels like we are reacting to the world these days, not innovating with new ideas, systems or loophole exploitation

        Because it's cheating and will get stopped. I expect this will be punished in future games.

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        • boobooB booboo

          @nzzp said in Rugby World Cup news:

          @gt12 said in Rugby World Cup news:

          @antipodean said in Rugby World Cup news:

          @booboo said in Rugby World Cup news:

          Doesn't a tackle create an offside line?

          Or just a gate?

          Offside line.

          I don't understand why they aren't in breach of 14.8c

          8. Other players must :
          a. Remain on their feet and release the ball and the ball-carrier immediately.
          b. Remain on their feet when they play the ball.
          c. Arrive at the tackle from the direction of their own goal line before playing the ball.
          d. Not play the ball or attempt to tackle an opponent while on the ground
          near the tackle.
          

          I guess the purpose is to avoid an offside line being formed to get around law 14.10? I think it's very flimsy but if they take out the player before they are over the ball, there may not be an offside line?

          Offside lines are created at a tackle when at least one player is on their feet and over the ball, which is on the ground. Each team ís offside line runs parallel to the goal line through the hindmost point of any player in the tackle or on their feet over the ball. If that point is on or behind the goal line, the offside line for that team is the goal line.
          

          More generally, when was the last time you saw innovation like this from NZ teams? Feels like we are reacting to the world these days, not innovating with new ideas, systems or loophole exploitation

          Because it's cheating and will get stopped. I expect this will be punished in future games.

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          nzzpN Online
          nzzp
          wrote on last edited by
          #247

          @booboo said in Rugby World Cup news:

          @nzzp said in Rugby World Cup news:

          @gt12 said in Rugby World Cup news:

          @antipodean said in Rugby World Cup news:

          @booboo said in Rugby World Cup news:

          Doesn't a tackle create an offside line?

          Or just a gate?

          Offside line.

          I don't understand why they aren't in breach of 14.8c

          8. Other players must :
          a. Remain on their feet and release the ball and the ball-carrier immediately.
          b. Remain on their feet when they play the ball.
          c. Arrive at the tackle from the direction of their own goal line before playing the ball.
          d. Not play the ball or attempt to tackle an opponent while on the ground
          near the tackle.
          

          I guess the purpose is to avoid an offside line being formed to get around law 14.10? I think it's very flimsy but if they take out the player before they are over the ball, there may not be an offside line?

          Offside lines are created at a tackle when at least one player is on their feet and over the ball, which is on the ground. Each team ís offside line runs parallel to the goal line through the hindmost point of any player in the tackle or on their feet over the ball. If that point is on or behind the goal line, the offside line for that team is the goal line.
          

          More generally, when was the last time you saw innovation like this from NZ teams? Feels like we are reacting to the world these days, not innovating with new ideas, systems or loophole exploitation

          Because it's cheating and will get stopped. I expect this will be punished in future games.

          I agree.

          Do you think the ABs are innovating at the moment? I haven't seen it, not for years

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          • nzzpN nzzp

            @booboo said in Rugby World Cup news:

            @nzzp said in Rugby World Cup news:

            @gt12 said in Rugby World Cup news:

            @antipodean said in Rugby World Cup news:

            @booboo said in Rugby World Cup news:

            Doesn't a tackle create an offside line?

            Or just a gate?

            Offside line.

            I don't understand why they aren't in breach of 14.8c

            8. Other players must :
            a. Remain on their feet and release the ball and the ball-carrier immediately.
            b. Remain on their feet when they play the ball.
            c. Arrive at the tackle from the direction of their own goal line before playing the ball.
            d. Not play the ball or attempt to tackle an opponent while on the ground
            near the tackle.
            

            I guess the purpose is to avoid an offside line being formed to get around law 14.10? I think it's very flimsy but if they take out the player before they are over the ball, there may not be an offside line?

            Offside lines are created at a tackle when at least one player is on their feet and over the ball, which is on the ground. Each team ís offside line runs parallel to the goal line through the hindmost point of any player in the tackle or on their feet over the ball. If that point is on or behind the goal line, the offside line for that team is the goal line.
            

            More generally, when was the last time you saw innovation like this from NZ teams? Feels like we are reacting to the world these days, not innovating with new ideas, systems or loophole exploitation

            Because it's cheating and will get stopped. I expect this will be punished in future games.

            I agree.

            Do you think the ABs are innovating at the moment? I haven't seen it, not for years

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            KiwiMurph
            wrote on last edited by
            #248

            @nzzp said in Rugby World Cup news:

            @booboo said in Rugby World Cup news:

            @nzzp said in Rugby World Cup news:

            @gt12 said in Rugby World Cup news:

            @antipodean said in Rugby World Cup news:

            @booboo said in Rugby World Cup news:

            Doesn't a tackle create an offside line?

            Or just a gate?

            Offside line.

            I don't understand why they aren't in breach of 14.8c

            8. Other players must :
            a. Remain on their feet and release the ball and the ball-carrier immediately.
            b. Remain on their feet when they play the ball.
            c. Arrive at the tackle from the direction of their own goal line before playing the ball.
            d. Not play the ball or attempt to tackle an opponent while on the ground
            near the tackle.
            

            I guess the purpose is to avoid an offside line being formed to get around law 14.10? I think it's very flimsy but if they take out the player before they are over the ball, there may not be an offside line?

            Offside lines are created at a tackle when at least one player is on their feet and over the ball, which is on the ground. Each team ís offside line runs parallel to the goal line through the hindmost point of any player in the tackle or on their feet over the ball. If that point is on or behind the goal line, the offside line for that team is the goal line.
            

            More generally, when was the last time you saw innovation like this from NZ teams? Feels like we are reacting to the world these days, not innovating with new ideas, systems or loophole exploitation

            Because it's cheating and will get stopped. I expect this will be punished in future games.

            I agree.

            Do you think the ABs are innovating at the moment? I haven't seen it, not for years

            The short passing amongst the forwards this season has been great to watch - a wonderful change from the overdone pod system.

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            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

              @nzzp said in Rugby World Cup news:

              @booboo said in Rugby World Cup news:

              @nzzp said in Rugby World Cup news:

              @gt12 said in Rugby World Cup news:

              @antipodean said in Rugby World Cup news:

              @booboo said in Rugby World Cup news:

              Doesn't a tackle create an offside line?

              Or just a gate?

              Offside line.

              I don't understand why they aren't in breach of 14.8c

              8. Other players must :
              a. Remain on their feet and release the ball and the ball-carrier immediately.
              b. Remain on their feet when they play the ball.
              c. Arrive at the tackle from the direction of their own goal line before playing the ball.
              d. Not play the ball or attempt to tackle an opponent while on the ground
              near the tackle.
              

              I guess the purpose is to avoid an offside line being formed to get around law 14.10? I think it's very flimsy but if they take out the player before they are over the ball, there may not be an offside line?

              Offside lines are created at a tackle when at least one player is on their feet and over the ball, which is on the ground. Each team ís offside line runs parallel to the goal line through the hindmost point of any player in the tackle or on their feet over the ball. If that point is on or behind the goal line, the offside line for that team is the goal line.
              

              More generally, when was the last time you saw innovation like this from NZ teams? Feels like we are reacting to the world these days, not innovating with new ideas, systems or loophole exploitation

              Because it's cheating and will get stopped. I expect this will be punished in future games.

              I agree.

              Do you think the ABs are innovating at the moment? I haven't seen it, not for years

              The short passing amongst the forwards this season has been great to watch - a wonderful change from the overdone pod system.

              nzzpN Online
              nzzpN Online
              nzzp
              wrote on last edited by
              #249

              @KiwiMurph said in Rugby World Cup news:

              @nzzp said in Rugby World Cup news:

              @booboo said in Rugby World Cup news:

              @nzzp said in Rugby World Cup news:

              @gt12 said in Rugby World Cup news:

              @antipodean said in Rugby World Cup news:

              @booboo said in Rugby World Cup news:

              Doesn't a tackle create an offside line?

              Or just a gate?

              Offside line.

              I don't understand why they aren't in breach of 14.8c

              8. Other players must :
              a. Remain on their feet and release the ball and the ball-carrier immediately.
              b. Remain on their feet when they play the ball.
              c. Arrive at the tackle from the direction of their own goal line before playing the ball.
              d. Not play the ball or attempt to tackle an opponent while on the ground
              near the tackle.
              

              I guess the purpose is to avoid an offside line being formed to get around law 14.10? I think it's very flimsy but if they take out the player before they are over the ball, there may not be an offside line?

              Offside lines are created at a tackle when at least one player is on their feet and over the ball, which is on the ground. Each team ís offside line runs parallel to the goal line through the hindmost point of any player in the tackle or on their feet over the ball. If that point is on or behind the goal line, the offside line for that team is the goal line.
              

              More generally, when was the last time you saw innovation like this from NZ teams? Feels like we are reacting to the world these days, not innovating with new ideas, systems or loophole exploitation

              Because it's cheating and will get stopped. I expect this will be punished in future games.

              I agree.

              Do you think the ABs are innovating at the moment? I haven't seen it, not for years

              The short passing amongst the forwards this season has been great to watch - a wonderful change from the overdone pod system.

              agree.

              Did we pioneer pods? I thought we had - it's that kind of thing I'd liek to see us at the forefront of

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              • canefanC Online
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                canefan
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                #250

                Did we start using the cross kick from 10? I'm happy were not using it as much as we were last season....

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                • canefanC canefan

                  Did we start using the cross kick from 10? I'm happy were not using it as much as we were last season....

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                  nzzpN Online
                  nzzp
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                  #251

                  @canefan said in Rugby World Cup news:

                  Did we start using the cross kick from 10? I'm happy were not using it as much as we were last season....

                  whoever innovated the midfield bomb needs to be beaten

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                  • nzzpN nzzp

                    @KiwiMurph said in Rugby World Cup news:

                    @nzzp said in Rugby World Cup news:

                    @booboo said in Rugby World Cup news:

                    @nzzp said in Rugby World Cup news:

                    @gt12 said in Rugby World Cup news:

                    @antipodean said in Rugby World Cup news:

                    @booboo said in Rugby World Cup news:

                    Doesn't a tackle create an offside line?

                    Or just a gate?

                    Offside line.

                    I don't understand why they aren't in breach of 14.8c

                    8. Other players must :
                    a. Remain on their feet and release the ball and the ball-carrier immediately.
                    b. Remain on their feet when they play the ball.
                    c. Arrive at the tackle from the direction of their own goal line before playing the ball.
                    d. Not play the ball or attempt to tackle an opponent while on the ground
                    near the tackle.
                    

                    I guess the purpose is to avoid an offside line being formed to get around law 14.10? I think it's very flimsy but if they take out the player before they are over the ball, there may not be an offside line?

                    Offside lines are created at a tackle when at least one player is on their feet and over the ball, which is on the ground. Each team ís offside line runs parallel to the goal line through the hindmost point of any player in the tackle or on their feet over the ball. If that point is on or behind the goal line, the offside line for that team is the goal line.
                    

                    More generally, when was the last time you saw innovation like this from NZ teams? Feels like we are reacting to the world these days, not innovating with new ideas, systems or loophole exploitation

                    Because it's cheating and will get stopped. I expect this will be punished in future games.

                    I agree.

                    Do you think the ABs are innovating at the moment? I haven't seen it, not for years

                    The short passing amongst the forwards this season has been great to watch - a wonderful change from the overdone pod system.

                    agree.

                    Did we pioneer pods? I thought we had - it's that kind of thing I'd liek to see us at the forefront of

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                    Duluth
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                    #252

                    @nzzp said in Rugby World Cup news:

                    Did we pioneer pods? I thought we had - it's that kind of thing I'd liek to see us at the forefront of

                    I though Henry or Hansen bought a version of it back from the NH? Crusaders created one of the patterns (2-4-2 I think?)

                    Hard to imagine pods going away, maybe different splits?

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                      #253

                      Don't think too many other countries have cottoned on to our specialist left wing bench spot innovation yet.

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                      • R reprobate

                        Don't think too many other countries have cottoned on to our specialist left wing bench spot innovation yet.

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                        Bones
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                        #254

                        @reprobate said in Rugby World Cup news:

                        Don't think too many other countries have cottoned on to our specialist left wing bench spot innovation yet.

                        You just wait until they replace ALB with DMac and have a 5-2 split, so that we finally achieve a whole backline of first fives and wings.

                        Edit: and still have a spare wing on the bench.

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                        • BonesB Bones

                          @reprobate said in Rugby World Cup news:

                          Don't think too many other countries have cottoned on to our specialist left wing bench spot innovation yet.

                          You just wait until they replace ALB with DMac and have a 5-2 split, so that we finally achieve a whole backline of first fives and wings.

                          Edit: and still have a spare wing on the bench.

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                          nostrildamus
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                          #255

                          @Bones said in Rugby World Cup news:

                          @reprobate said in Rugby World Cup news:

                          Don't think too many other countries have cottoned on to our specialist left wing bench spot innovation yet.

                          You just wait until they replace ALB with DMac and have a 5-2 split, so that we finally achieve a whole backline of first fives and wings.

                          Edit: and still have a spare wing on the bench.

                          sounds like a golden KFC sponsorship opportunity.

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                          • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                            @Bones said in Rugby World Cup news:

                            @reprobate said in Rugby World Cup news:

                            Don't think too many other countries have cottoned on to our specialist left wing bench spot innovation yet.

                            You just wait until they replace ALB with DMac and have a 5-2 split, so that we finally achieve a whole backline of first fives and wings.

                            Edit: and still have a spare wing on the bench.

                            sounds like a golden KFC sponsorship opportunity.

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                            Bones
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                            #256

                            @nostrildamus I haven't tried the first fives from KFC. Are they as good as crusaders ones?

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                            • BonesB Bones

                              @nostrildamus I haven't tried the first fives from KFC. Are they as good as crusaders ones?

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                              @Bones said in Rugby World Cup news:

                              @nostrildamus I haven't tried the first fives from KFC. Are they as good as crusaders ones?

                              I can recommend the 10 nugget combo. Just haven't tasted it.

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                                #258

                                https://www.planetrugby.com/news/owen-farrell-could-miss-all-of-englands-rugby-world-cup-pool-matches-after-red-card-against-wales?fbclid=IwAR0lLVbV41PwZJP0bmNS-RmL6UObYU5jrkYpwK5S5EGw35MQky77jE_DurM

                                Another test for the judiciary. Owen thinks he's playing for Wigan, like his Dad. Apparently it's his first RC in a test match. The guy leads a charmed life clearly

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                                  #259

                                  Wow that’s a massive loss

                                  IMG_4999.jpeg

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                                    His Bobness
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                                    #260

                                    Ntamack out. Farrell and Sexton banned. Cooper dropped. (Edit: Pollard under the old injury cloud). Curse of the 10s?

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                                      Billy Tell
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                                      #261

                                      France have decent enough back up options. Pretty sure also some guy called Stéphane Donaud.

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                                      • His BobnessH His Bobness

                                        Ntamack out. Farrell and Sexton banned. Cooper dropped. (Edit: Pollard under the old injury cloud). Curse of the 10s?

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                                        @His-Bobness said in Rugby World Cup news:

                                        Ntamack out. Farrell and Sexton banned. Cooper dropped. Curse of the 10s?

                                        Somebody said Beaver is in good nick in the gym ...

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                                          P.S. @his-bobness you missed Pollard

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