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I also found S-21 (the school) to be a tougher visit than the Killing Fields.
Yeah - the school was fucked. Not as "in your face" as the Fields - but the little stories...
Particularly - the kiwi who rocked up on a yacht, not realising shit had gone fucked, arrested as a spy, quickly realised he was dead, never going home, and just started spinning shit. "Yeah, I report to Colonel Mustard, and Colonel Kentucky, and Major <child-hood pet's name>, etc, etc". And I think they had audio of his brother explaining it, or something? Partially because "kiwi", but just the relatability of it... hit me where it stung. -
the kiwi who rocked up on a yacht
Kerry Hamill, brother of trans-Atlantic rower Rob.
There has always been a suggestion that the yacht might have been bringing some hash down from Thailand.
Irrespective of the validity of the rumours, nothing he did warranted his torture and death at S-21.
I too found the school way more moving. They do it well though. Quite eerie everyone wandering around in almost total silence some with tears running down their faces.
Kerry Hammil admitted he was a CIA agent - his handler being Colonel Sanders, but he testified that the most important person in his life was (his mothers name) hoping she would learn this later - as she did.
Quite the tragedy for the Hamil family. Another brother committed suicide when he learned of Kerry's death.
Rob managed to get some closure a decade or so ago by testifying at the trial of his brother's torturer. A film was made of his (Rob's) journey to Cambodia.
By contrast the killing fields were peaceful and quite beautiful. Spoiled by the loud yank woman who went off the marked path and told her husband to "come quickly and take a photo there's teeth in the dirt".
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@mariner4life said in Travel:
Spoiled by the loud yank woman who went off the marked path and told her husband to "come quickly and take a photo there's teeth in the dirt
god fucking dammit the Americans are the most annoying tourists
Totally unaware of their surroundings
Example 1. Stayed at a hotel in Europe, can't remember where. Went down to breakfast right at the end of service, made do with whatever food was left, just happy to have something to eat. Americans come down after the close and demand fresh cooked food
Example 2. Eating an outdoor restaurant in Italy. Americans a couple of tables across start feeding stray dogs at the table. Nek minute a couple of dogs start fighting over the food, chaos ensues
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loud. all the fucking time.
travel in large fucking groups and are just loud. fluffybunnies get an inside voice!
One the fucking trains in Italy and all you can here are Americans talking loudly at each other
And yes, constantly demanding shit is catered to them.
Massive stereotype, some are lovely. But on my recent trip almost all my annoyances had the same fucking accent
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I vividly remember sometime back in 2001 loud American pair in fluro T shirts and fanny packs go to a bar in Paris and order…….
Fat American Male: Two beers buddy…….Two of those ones……TWO BEERS BUDDY !!!!
Bartender: ( holds up hands ) no English……
American storms off angrily……
MN5: ( in his best fifth form French ) Deux Heinekins silvous plait…..
Bartender: ( in fluent English ) Sure thing, coming right up……
Literally ALL the American/French stereotypes in one moment.
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Some great early comments surrounding Singapore. @NTA if your wife is worried about some other countries nearby that are also clearly good suggestions, Singapore is easily the most sanitised and safest of the lot. Makes it easier to convince someone with anxiety.
Best thing to do in my mind (even in the heat), is do the half day bicycle tour early in a visit. It covers many historical landmarks and areas which get explained. By doing this early when we went, it allowed us to not only find our bearings easier, but find some bars/restaurants/locations we wanted to go to later in our holiday, that we didn't know about before we arrived.
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Right so fuck anywhere overseas apparently
all of them come with a host of problems, particularly anything I've suggested like fucking Japan in fucking winter because apparently "there is nothing to do".Instead, Port Douglas is now on the cards because her bestie went there back in January and it was great.
I've pointed out the level of sweaty bullshit and chafing but hey: her bestie said it was fine.
So @mariner4life you're from crazy tropical Queensland. Any recommendations?
Ha! Don't fucking bother because IT'S NOT HER FRIEND'S IDEA SO FUCK YOU THAT'S WHY!
(Honestly as long as we go somewhere there is alcohol, a pool, and copious copulation I don't give a single shit)
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Stay: Peppers Beach Club
Eat: salsa, melaleuca
Drink: courthouse and central are both great
Visit: the wildlife habitat Port Douglas. And swim with a saltie
Reef: I think the nautilus still goes out of port and it's a good day -
If you want to go to Cape trib let me know and I'll get you on our tour
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@mariner4life @canefan cheers gents. I'll put that forward as coming from Anyone But Me and see how it goes
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Reassure her
As a tourism professional my opinion matters
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@mariner4life said in Travel:
Spoiled by the loud yank woman who went off the marked path and told her husband to "come quickly and take a photo there's teeth in the dirt
god fucking dammit the Americans are the most annoying tourists
In the last few years (up until last year anyway) I have noticed some very loud and angry and arrogant Russian tourists.
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@NTA from Sydney, why not New Caledonia, Norfolk Island, or the Pacific in general? Hanoi in Vietnam has some great food, but if you have teenagers I suspect you'll find something for everyone in Japan.
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@nostrildamus I don't think selling it to @NTA , or providing him ANY amount of good/useful insider/marketing-info to sell it to his wife, is going to help.
You need to get introduced to one of his wife's friends, and sell it to THEM.
Maybe take a hit for a mate - hook up with one of them, take them to one of the great spots, and "show them a good time". -
@nostrildamus I don't think selling it to @NTA , or providing him ANY amount of good/useful insider/marketing-info to sell it to his wife, is going to help.
You need to get introduced to one of his wife's friends, and sell it to THEM.
Maybe take a hit for a mate - hook up with one of them, take them to one of the great spots, and "show them a good time".Very sensible. And obv all Ms NTA friends must feature in the Hawt thread.
But not sure my wife would agree.
