All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
While Lomax's one is awful and seems nasty, it also would seem rather rare?
I think the B Barrett injury v the Reds was similar boots? It was another freakish one, a decent gash on his achilles through the socks
@Duluth ah thats right, maybe they have altered the configuration of the 'blades' recently?
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I remember those blades were banned at schoolboy level in the early 90s in Aus. Boots were always checked properly before every game. Shit like this should not happen if they have the proper routines.
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@Stargazer said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@kev Yeah, especially because players also risk getting hit by a boot in the face/head. Imagine that being one of those boots. :anguished_face:
calm yourselves guys, i bought my first pair of blades in like 2000, this is not some new and dangerous technology
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@Stargazer said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@kev Yeah, especially because players also risk getting hit by a boot in the face/head. Imagine that being one of those boots. :anguished_face:
calm yourselves guys, i bought my first pair of blades in like 2000, this is not some new and dangerous technology
Would like to know exactly what these new blades are, and if they are different.
Seems BB dodged a bullet early this year.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@sparky said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@antipodean Look at 18:30 and 18:32.
Can't be bothered continuing once someone identifies they don't know wtf they're talking about. The law is clear; you can close the gap after the ball is thrown.
Perhaps that's something that needs to be looked at
No closing of the gap until the ball passes the 5m line
No closing of the gap until the ball is touched (by either team)Suggestions on a postcard to the usual address
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
No closing of the gap until the ball is touched (by either team)
I like the vision of the ball sitting perfectly in the middle and no team allowed to close the gap to touch it.
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@kiwiinmelb difference is, back then they never got flogged by 30 points. And had a series of record losses prior.
@Joans-Town-Jones said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@kiwiinmelb difference is, back then they never got flogged by 30 points. And had a series of record losses prior.
Yeah I get all that, none of us have been happy with all the records that have tumbled and the inconsistencies
But this team and their chances for doing well at the cup itself, not so sure that game means that much.
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@Joans-Town-Jones said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@kiwiinmelb difference is, back then they never got flogged by 30 points. And had a series of record losses prior.
Yeah I get all that, none of us have been happy with all the records that have tumbled and the inconsistencies
But this team and their chances for doing well at the cup itself, not so sure that game means that much.
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@Joans-Town-Jones said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@kiwiinmelb difference is, back then they never got flogged by 30 points. And had a series of record losses prior.
Yeah I get all that, none of us have been happy with all the records that have tumbled and the inconsistencies
But this team and their chances for doing well at the cup itself, not so sure that game means that much.
I think it does, it shows they crumble under pressure. If they get away to a great start, then they're good. Any real pressure and they're fucked. And they will get real pressure on at least one knock out game of three and will crumble and lose. Even the GOATs of '15 had that in the semi, and they turned the pressure around. '11 had the self induced pressure of the final. Funnily enough the B team pulled through under pressure vs Oz, but that is only Oz
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@mikedogz and the ref running his hands over the studs to check for sharp edges.
While Lomax's one is awful and seems nasty, it also would seem rather rare?
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@mikedogz and the ref running his hands over the studs to check for sharp edges.
While Lomax's one is awful and seems nasty, it also would seem rather rare?
Yep I remember going down on my knees and having the boots checked I think.
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@Joans-Town-Jones said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@kiwiinmelb difference is, back then they never got flogged by 30 points. And had a series of record losses prior.
Yeah I get all that, none of us have been happy with all the records that have tumbled and the inconsistencies
But this team and their chances for doing well at the cup itself, not so sure that game means that much.
@kiwiinmelb furry muff. I made comment before the test, would a loss to the ABs mean more psychologically than it would to the Springboks. I still believe it does. South Africa can get up for these one of games. This ABs side, I'm 70% sure they can't. Certainly not for 3 big ones.
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@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@Joans-Town-Jones said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@kiwiinmelb difference is, back then they never got flogged by 30 points. And had a series of record losses prior.
Yeah I get all that, none of us have been happy with all the records that have tumbled and the inconsistencies
But this team and their chances for doing well at the cup itself, not so sure that game means that much.
I think it does, it shows they crumble under pressure. If they get away to a great start, then they're good. Any real pressure and they're fucked. And they will get real pressure on at least one knock out game of three and will crumble and lose. Even the GOATs of '15 had that in the semi, and they turned the pressure around. '11 had the self induced pressure of the final. Funnily enough the B team pulled through under pressure vs Oz, but that is only Oz
@Machpants it was the A team that come on to fix the shit. Had Foster kept the same side save for blokes like SS and LF, for the Wobs then this test, I'm positive the result would have been different. May not have won, but I'm certain it wouldn't have a been a 35 point flogging.
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@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@Joans-Town-Jones said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@kiwiinmelb difference is, back then they never got flogged by 30 points. And had a series of record losses prior.
Yeah I get all that, none of us have been happy with all the records that have tumbled and the inconsistencies
But this team and their chances for doing well at the cup itself, not so sure that game means that much.
I think it does, it shows they crumble under pressure. If they get away to a great start, then they're good. Any real pressure and they're fucked. And they will get real pressure on at least one knock out game of three and will crumble and lose. Even the GOATs of '15 had that in the semi, and they turned the pressure around. '11 had the self induced pressure of the final. Funnily enough the B team pulled through under pressure vs Oz, but that is only Oz
@Machpants a bit of luck early plays it's part too, on another day the early scrum penalty goes the other way...
As @mariner4life said above, this game was the perfect storm of everything going wrong.
Sure there are issues and we will need alot of luck and good days for us to make the final, and from there, it comes down to who is on, you ride the crest of a wave until you can't.
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@Stargazer said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@kev Yeah, especially because players also risk getting hit by a boot in the face/head. Imagine that being one of those boots. :anguished_face:
calm yourselves guys, i bought my first pair of blades in like 2000, this is not some new and dangerous technology
@mariner4life it may not be blades as such, could be the type - sharpness etc. It’s interesting technical thing. Surprised their hasn’t been a rugby media piece on this but then again, why would you provide information and analysis when you can do nothing.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@mikedogz and the ref running his hands over the studs to check for sharp edges.
While Lomax's one is awful and seems nasty, it also would seem rather rare?
Yep I remember going down on my knees and having the boots checked I think.
@chimoaus said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@mikedogz and the ref running his hands over the studs to check for sharp edges.
While Lomax's one is awful and seems nasty, it also would seem rather rare?
Yep I remember going down on my knees and having the boots checked I think.
We weren't allowed plastic studs in 90's early 00's in dunedin school/club rugby, had to at least have a metal tip. I was surprised when i got back into club rugby and checking studs wasn't a thing
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@kiwiinmelb furry muff. I made comment before the test, would a loss to the ABs mean more psychologically than it would to the Springboks. I still believe it does. South Africa can get up for these one of games. This ABs side, I'm 70% sure they can't. Certainly not for 3 big ones.
@Joans-Town-Jones said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@kiwiinmelb furry muff. I made comment before the test, would a loss to the ABs mean more psychologically than it would to the Springboks. I still believe it does. South Africa can get up for these one of games. This ABs side, I'm 70% sure they can't. Certainly not for 3 big ones.
Yeah not sure , last 4 games are 2-2 , good performance, bad performance seems to be the trend
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@chimoaus said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@mikedogz and the ref running his hands over the studs to check for sharp edges.
While Lomax's one is awful and seems nasty, it also would seem rather rare?
Yep I remember going down on my knees and having the boots checked I think.
We weren't allowed plastic studs in 90's early 00's in dunedin school/club rugby, had to at least have a metal tip. I was surprised when i got back into club rugby and checking studs wasn't a thing
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@chimoaus said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@mikedogz and the ref running his hands over the studs to check for sharp edges.
While Lomax's one is awful and seems nasty, it also would seem rather rare?
Yep I remember going down on my knees and having the boots checked I think.
We weren't allowed plastic studs in 90's early 00's in dunedin school/club rugby, had to at least have a metal tip. I was surprised when i got back into club rugby and checking studs wasn't a thing
Yeah moulded studs were banned in Aus while I was playing around that time. Had to have screw-ins. So I was surprised to see that they were the norm when my boys started playing in around 2014.
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@Joans-Town-Jones said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@kiwiinmelb furry muff. I made comment before the test, would a loss to the ABs mean more psychologically than it would to the Springboks. I still believe it does. South Africa can get up for these one of games. This ABs side, I'm 70% sure they can't. Certainly not for 3 big ones.
Yeah not sure , last 4 games are 2-2 , good performance, bad performance seems to be the trend
@kiwiinmelb which begs the question, what gives everyone so much faith we'll get passed the QF? Due another shit one vs France, good one vs Italy then out.
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@Joans-Town-Jones said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@kiwiinmelb furry muff. I made comment before the test, would a loss to the ABs mean more psychologically than it would to the Springboks. I still believe it does. South Africa can get up for these one of games. This ABs side, I'm 70% sure they can't. Certainly not for 3 big ones.
Yeah not sure , last 4 games are 2-2 , good performance, bad performance seems to be the trend
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@Joans-Town-Jones said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@kiwiinmelb furry muff. I made comment before the test, would a loss to the ABs mean more psychologically than it would to the Springboks. I still believe it does. South Africa can get up for these one of games. This ABs side, I'm 70% sure they can't. Certainly not for 3 big ones.
Yeah not sure , last 4 games are 2-2 , good performance, bad performance seems to be the trend
I think the focus has been on the RWC since we sewed up the Bledisloe and the RC (which was after the Melb test). So Dunedin becomes a bit of a ho hum match. This Boks test was a money spinner.
The boys seemed pretty relaxed about it all riding their bikes around postcode Adidas in Germany…
Much of what has been said on this thread has a bit of an old school thinking to it.
As much as it is important for the fans to see the ABs win, and they know they didn’t play how they wanted, but the eyes have been on the French test for a while now.
Bring it on.
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@kiwiinmelb which begs the question, what gives everyone so much faith we'll get passed the QF? Due another shit one vs France, good one vs Italy then out.
@Joans-Town-Jones said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@kiwiinmelb which begs the question, what gives everyone so much faith we'll get passed the QF? Due another shit one vs France, good one vs Italy then out.
Because quite simply were the flat track bullies of the international game, well pump everyone (bar France) by 50 points + in the pool games and then fall over ourselves as soon as we come up against a forward pack that hits us harder than what we hit them.
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@Joans-Town-Jones said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@kiwiinmelb which begs the question, what gives everyone so much faith we'll get passed the QF? Due another shit one vs France, good one vs Italy then out.
Because quite simply were the flat track bullies of the international game, well pump everyone (bar France) by 50 points + in the pool games and then fall over ourselves as soon as we come up against a forward pack that hits us harder than what we hit them.
@Windows97 said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
Because quite simply were the flat track bullies of the international game, well pump everyone (bar France) by 50 points + in the pool games and then fall over ourselves as soon as we come up against a forward pack that hits us harder than what we hit them.
oh god, we're the quintessential classic French team, without the backline!
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@Windows97 said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
Because quite simply were the flat track bullies of the international game, well pump everyone (bar France) by 50 points + in the pool games and then fall over ourselves as soon as we come up against a forward pack that hits us harder than what we hit them.
oh god, we're the quintessential classic French team, without the backline!
@nostrildamus Now that you put it like that - I have to agree 100%
