All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham
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Man this is like a stages of grief thread. Some serious revisionism shît going on trying to rationalise and downplay the hiding we took.
@Billy-Tell Yes thank fark we've got all the tears, tantrums and throwing toys out of the way already. Now we can just go and stand in the corner and sulk.
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Man this is like a stages of grief thread. Some serious revisionism shît going on trying to rationalise and downplay the hiding we took.
@Billy-Tell and tbf there is some serious pumping and over valuing the SA performance too.
We know this ain't a great AB side and they had a very bad night at the office last week against a very good rugby team, and the score reflects this.
For the past 3 year people have been lamenting how we will be lucky to get out of pool or scrape into a quarter...if that hasnt changed surely people should be at acceptance anyway...
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Shit. Maybe we'll get some luck for a change. Manage to beat France after they get a red card for ball grabbing. Then have Scotland in the QF after they upset Ireland or SA. Then Wales in the SF and then the remnants of who's left after the carnage on the other side of the draw in the final. We're surely due a bit of luck in one of these fůcking tournaments.
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What I can't fathom is what kind of thinking scheduled this match at that time against the most physical opponent we could have and a likely quarter final opponent at that. Plain stupid in my view.
So I take the result with a grain of salt. And I wonder if a lot of the commentary around the match is warped by a sense of loyalty to whomever made such a bad decision.
And I also wonder if there was a prompt on the officials to be far more strict in some areas.
So little changes for our prospects in my view except that maybe we now view Ireland as our more preferred QF opponent and let France deal to South Africa. -
Shit. Maybe we'll get some luck for a change. Manage to beat France after they get a red card for ball grabbing. Then have Scotland in the QF after they upset Ireland or SA. Then Wales in the SF and then the remnants of who's left after the carnage on the other side of the draw in the final. We're surely due a bit of luck in one of these fůcking tournaments.
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
Shit. Maybe we'll get some luck for a change. Manage to beat France after they get a red card for ball grabbing. Then have Scotland in the QF after they upset Ireland or SA. Then Wales in the SF and then the remnants of who's left after the carnage on the other side of the draw in the final. We're surely due a bit of luck in one of these fůcking tournaments.
Used up in 2011. Now in the red again after 2019 opener.
Chin up though, the rugby gods are fickle, and they may be keen to punish your opponents.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
Shit. Maybe we'll get some luck for a change. Manage to beat France after they get a red card for ball grabbing. Then have Scotland in the QF after they upset Ireland or SA. Then Wales in the SF and then the remnants of who's left after the carnage on the other side of the draw in the final. We're surely due a bit of luck in one of these fůcking tournaments.
Used up in 2011. Now in the red again after 2019 opener.
Chin up though, the rugby gods are fickle, and they may be keen to punish your opponents.
@Smuts said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
Shit. Maybe we'll get some luck for a change. Manage to beat France after they get a red card for ball grabbing. Then have Scotland in the QF after they upset Ireland or SA. Then Wales in the SF and then the remnants of who's left after the carnage on the other side of the draw in the final. We're surely due a bit of luck in one of these fůcking tournaments.
Used up in 2011. Now in the red again after 2019 opener.
Chin up though, the rugby gods are fickle, and they may be keen to punish your opponents.
Jeez, remind me again where we got lucky in 2011? Was it when Carter went down? Or when Cruden went down? My memory fails me!
Shit, we have so much luck karma coming back to us this year we probably won’t concede a try all tournament on our march to victory…
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
Shit. Maybe we'll get some luck for a change. Manage to beat France after they get a red card for ball grabbing. Then have Scotland in the QF after they upset Ireland or SA. Then Wales in the SF and then the remnants of who's left after the carnage on the other side of the draw in the final. We're surely due a bit of luck in one of these fůcking tournaments.
Used up in 2011. Now in the red again after 2019 opener.
Chin up though, the rugby gods are fickle, and they may be keen to punish your opponents.
@Smuts said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
Shit. Maybe we'll get some luck for a change. Manage to beat France after they get a red card for ball grabbing. Then have Scotland in the QF after they upset Ireland or SA. Then Wales in the SF and then the remnants of who's left after the carnage on the other side of the draw in the final. We're surely due a bit of luck in one of these fůcking tournaments.
Used up in 2011. Now in the red again after 2019 opener.
Chin up though, the rugby gods are fickle, and they may be keen to punish your opponents.
Yeah sure. McCaw playing with a broken foot and getting down to 4th choice 10 was luck.
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@Smuts said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
Shit. Maybe we'll get some luck for a change. Manage to beat France after they get a red card for ball grabbing. Then have Scotland in the QF after they upset Ireland or SA. Then Wales in the SF and then the remnants of who's left after the carnage on the other side of the draw in the final. We're surely due a bit of luck in one of these fůcking tournaments.
Used up in 2011. Now in the red again after 2019 opener.
Chin up though, the rugby gods are fickle, and they may be keen to punish your opponents.
Yeah sure. McCaw playing with a broken foot and getting down to 4th choice 10 was luck.
@Rancid-Schnitzel 5th if you count Weepu running about at 10
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@Rancid-Schnitzel 5th if you count Weepu running about at 10
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@Rancid-Schnitzel 5th if you count Weepu running about at 10
Oh yeah, and he farked his hamstring warming up for the final. More luck I guess...
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
Shit. Maybe we'll get some luck for a change. Manage to beat France after they get a red card for ball grabbing. Then have Scotland in the QF after they upset Ireland or SA. Then Wales in the SF and then the remnants of who's left after the carnage on the other side of the draw in the final. We're surely due a bit of luck in one of these fůcking tournaments.
Used up in 2011. Now in the red again after 2019 opener.
Chin up though, the rugby gods are fickle, and they may be keen to punish your opponents.
@Smuts said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
Used up in 2011. Now in the red again after 2019 opener.
in fairness, the final was tight as a drum, and refereeing could go either way. Some of the rugby world think Joubert swallowed his whistle and that benefitted us.
We left a lot of points out there that day; every RWC has a game like that to win, squeaky bum time with not a lot of points available
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@chimoaus said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
I'm assuming the luck in 2015 was karma for Suzie in 95?
TBH the 2015 run to the Cup was one tournament that really didn't need much luck, they were on a level above the other teams. And it was mental strength and a bunch of GOAT players that got us past the one hard game
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@Smuts said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
Shit. Maybe we'll get some luck for a change. Manage to beat France after they get a red card for ball grabbing. Then have Scotland in the QF after they upset Ireland or SA. Then Wales in the SF and then the remnants of who's left after the carnage on the other side of the draw in the final. We're surely due a bit of luck in one of these fůcking tournaments.
Used up in 2011. Now in the red again after 2019 opener.
Chin up though, the rugby gods are fickle, and they may be keen to punish your opponents.
Yeah sure. McCaw playing with a broken foot and getting down to 4th choice 10 was luck.
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@Smuts said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
Shit. Maybe we'll get some luck for a change. Manage to beat France after they get a red card for ball grabbing. Then have Scotland in the QF after they upset Ireland or SA. Then Wales in the SF and then the remnants of who's left after the carnage on the other side of the draw in the final. We're surely due a bit of luck in one of these fůcking tournaments.
Used up in 2011. Now in the red again after 2019 opener.
Chin up though, the rugby gods are fickle, and they may be keen to punish your opponents.
Yeah sure. McCaw playing with a broken foot and getting down to 4th choice 10 was luck.
God bless the Beaver. One of my favourite ever ABs of recent times. He should be yours too.
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@chimoaus said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
I'm assuming the luck in 2015 was karma for Suzie in 95?
TBH the 2015 run to the Cup was one tournament that really didn't need much luck, they were on a level above the other teams. And it was mental strength and a bunch of GOAT players that got us past the one hard game
@Machpants said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@chimoaus said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
I'm assuming the luck in 2015 was karma for Suzie in 95?
TBH the 2015 run to the Cup was one tournament that really didn't need much like, they were on a level above the other teams. And it was mental strength and a bunch of GOAT players that got us past the one hard game
Yep. France, SA and Aus wasn't exactly an easy run. Unlike Fiji, Argentina and England....
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@Smuts said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
Used up in 2011. Now in the red again after 2019 opener.
in fairness, the final was tight as a drum, and refereeing could go either way. Some of the rugby world think Joubert swallowed his whistle and that benefitted us.
We left a lot of points out there that day; every RWC has a game like that to win, squeaky bum time with not a lot of points available
@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
Some of the rugby world think Joubert swallowed his whistle and that benefitted us.
More objective people know he favoured France heavily and we won despite the one sided officiating ... don't get me started ... I don't have videos with circles and arrows but I do have a listing of sus decisions I can repost (analysis after so many peeps said Joubert favoured us) and they favoured France massively.
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@Billy-Tell Yes thank fark we've got all the tears, tantrums and throwing toys out of the way already. Now we can just go and stand in the corner and sulk.
@Jailbreak7 said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@Billy-Tell Yes thank fark we've got all the tears, tantrums and throwing toys out of the way already. Now we can just go and stand in the corner and sulk.
But there are 4 corners! What do we do?!!
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What I can't fathom is what kind of thinking scheduled this match at that time against the most physical opponent we could have and a likely quarter final opponent at that. Plain stupid in my view.
So I take the result with a grain of salt. And I wonder if a lot of the commentary around the match is warped by a sense of loyalty to whomever made such a bad decision.
And I also wonder if there was a prompt on the officials to be far more strict in some areas.
So little changes for our prospects in my view except that maybe we now view Ireland as our more preferred QF opponent and let France deal to South Africa.@ARHS said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
.. let France deal to South Africa.
That game could be the toughest and most attritional game at the RWC, and for both sides.
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@Smuts said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
Shit. Maybe we'll get some luck for a change. Manage to beat France after they get a red card for ball grabbing. Then have Scotland in the QF after they upset Ireland or SA. Then Wales in the SF and then the remnants of who's left after the carnage on the other side of the draw in the final. We're surely due a bit of luck in one of these fůcking tournaments.
Used up in 2011. Now in the red again after 2019 opener.
Chin up though, the rugby gods are fickle, and they may be keen to punish your opponents.
Jeez, remind me again where we got lucky in 2011? Was it when Carter went down? Or when Cruden went down? My memory fails me!
Shit, we have so much luck karma coming back to us this year we probably won’t concede a try all tournament on our march to victory…
@voodoo said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@Smuts said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
Shit. Maybe we'll get some luck for a change. Manage to beat France after they get a red card for ball grabbing. Then have Scotland in the QF after they upset Ireland or SA. Then Wales in the SF and then the remnants of who's left after the carnage on the other side of the draw in the final. We're surely due a bit of luck in one of these fůcking tournaments.
Used up in 2011. Now in the red again after 2019 opener.
Chin up though, the rugby gods are fickle, and they may be keen to punish your opponents.
Jeez, remind me again where we got lucky in 2011? Was it when Carter went down? Or when Cruden went down? My memory fails me!
Shit, we have so much luck karma coming back to us this year we probably won’t concede a try all tournament on our march to victory…
Only luck saved you from having Slade at FH in the 2011 final
