NZR review
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@Stargazer said in NZR review:
- irrespective of competition format: NZR needs to up its game and promote the competition(s) properly, increase fan engagement etc.
i haven't had a chance to look through the report, do you know if there is any mention of this kind of thing, i agree i dont think a "fixed" format is enough, we need to sell it to the fans both old and new...and keep selling it, especially if its going to be closed so the same product every year
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@Kiwiwomble I've started reading the report, but have far from finished it.
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@SouthernMann I get your point Southern, I ask why RA is trying to come up with a 3rd tier comp I agree almost all players are earmarked at college age, but by christ the day we go down the school, academy, super route I believe we will suffer big time. I understand some players perhaps don't need playing and learning with anadd against experienced players, but I think the majority it help, and is one of our strengths!
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Quick note (as I haven't finished reading the report I don't want to get too much into it until I've finished) but isn't the competition makeup discussion jumping the gun? This is a report on governance, and mostly on the make up of the Board, the report writers have made clear "their" thoughts on the competition makeup, but it's worthwhile considering that one key stakeholder does not rate a proper mention in this report - Sky. They state they spoke with broadcasters but I can't see where that filters down into the actual report itself. Any decision on competition makeup, regardless of the outcome of this report will made in conjunction with Sky (or some other magical broadcaster NZR think they can find).
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@Nepia said in NZR review:
Quick note (as I haven't finished reading the report I don't want to get too much into it until I've finished) but isn't the competition makeup discussion jumping the gun? This is a report on governance, and mostly on the make up of the Board, the report writers have made clear "their" thoughts on the competition makeup, but it's worthwhile considering that one key stakeholder does not rate a proper mention in this report - Sky. They state they spoke with broadcasters but I can't see where that filters down into the actual report itself. Any decision on competition makeup, regardless of the outcome of this report will made in conjunction with Sky (or some other magical broadcaster NZR think they can find).
the nerve of this bloke, getting his facts straight before wading in like he's better than us
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"The cost of staging an average NPC match is about $400,000"
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@mikedogz said in NZR review:
"The cost of staging an average NPC match is about $400,000"
The operating costs to open the doors of the large stadiums would be huge. That's why Waikato has only used the main Brian Perry stand for the NPC games for a few years now. Less staff are needed for gates, security, food vendors etc. Auckland and Wellington should be doing the same to reduce costs.
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Eden park hasn’t been fully open for NPC matches for 4-5 years. All the lounges consolidate into the balcony bar in the south stand. Top tier closed. For a while they were pushing everyone to the south stand but there’s not much difference in allowing the north stand to have a few people on the lower level
It’s a shame the cameras are also in the south stand
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@Duluth doesn't seem like rocket surgery to direct to the crowds to the stand opposite the camera
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@Kiwiwomble the lounge sizes are very different. Opening the balcony bar is 100% the correct choice.
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@Duluth was meaning more just the bums on seats kind of crowd
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@Kiwiwomble If you mixed and matched you would be opening multiple gates. Trust me, they've made the right decision for multiple reasons
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@Duluth i wasn't specifically talking about eden park, i see thats not clear, apologies, i only meant in general...where practical....it seems like a good idea to keep the crowds in the same area for all the reasons others have mentioned (easier to marshall etc) plus it just looks better on TV
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@Stargazer agree with all of that. I have no real affinity for SR. I watch NZ games because I enjoy rugby but as a competition it lacks the tribal element and it is just not a great competition. I like the current 14 team NPC and think the NZRFU has tanked it and then conveniently said it doesn’t work. It could do with proper management, but if it had to change Duluths regional amalgamation is the best of the bitter pills to swallow.
I also wonder about a rugby Governance review that has 3 professional directors in it and just Graham Mourie. I always though professional rugby should exist to support amateur rugby. In that regard Super should make a shitload and fund NPC. It’s NPC that provides the wide base - always wondered about SR development and age group rugby sides just doubling up. Still reading it though.
Interesting comment that it costs $400k to host an NPC game. Like to know what that cost is? Stadiums, media… surely they could get that down?
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@kev have to think alot goes into the broadcasting side of things.
I know several years back (c 2018) we needed 10,000 to a blues game at Okara, but that included the fee to the blues for hosting, I think that has since been removed?
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My plan:
Strict salary caps for Super Rugby sides.
Let players with more than 40 AB caps play abroad as long as they commit to a Super franchise for 2 years in a RWC cycle.
Tax-free testimonial games for players who play more than 150 times for their Super franchise.
NPC of 14 sides in two divisions.
Strict salary caps for NPC teams.
Every adult ticket to any NZ Rugby game apart from Tests or Super knockout comes with the possibility of two free complementary tickets for kids.
