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  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

    In the article from Club Rugby NZ below, they understand that two high profile Hurricanes players are signing with Moana Pasifika for next season. One is likely to be Julian Savea, anyone have any leads on who the other might be?

    https://clubrugby.nz/wp/2023/09/04/sideline-conversions-4-september-some-rugby-news-and-information-to-start-the-week/

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    @Canes4life Jules definitely one of them, not sure who the other one will be tho

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      @Canes4life Jules definitely one of them, not sure who the other one will be tho

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      @BerhamporeNinja

      The Canes players with contract extensions are as follows, so won't be any of them.
      Tyrel Lomax: 2026
      Xavier Numia: 2025
      Asafo Aumua: 2025
      Isaia Walker-Leawere: 2025
      Du Plessis Kirifi: 2025
      Devan Flanders: 2024
      Peter Lakai: 2025
      TJ Perenara: 2025
      Bailyn Sullivan: 2024
      Billy Proctor: 2025
      Ruben Love: 2025
      Harry Godfrey: 2025
      Riley Higgins: 2024
      Josh Moorby: 2024
      Jordie Barrett: 2025
      Aiden Morgan: 2024
      Ardie Savea: 2025

      I'm picking it's out of the following players:
      Pasilio Tosi - the signing of Lauaki will likely push him out but he's not a high profile signing which the article states.
      Tevita Mafileo - unlikely considering he's pretty settled at the Canes and is building a nice front row partnership with Lomax.
      Brayden Iose - he is high profile enough IMO, and it wouldn't be the worst move for Brayden considering he's competing with Flanders and Lakai for the 8 position.
      TK Howden - I don't consider TK a high profile player yet. But because he's competing with Shields and Delany for that 6 jersey, he may decide to leave.
      Peter Umaga-Jensen - likely because Tana is his uncle, and he's competing with Higgins, Barrett, Proctor and Sullivan for regular mins.
      Salesi Rayasi - likely due to the Canes not wanting his services anymore.
      Kini Naholo - unlikely. He cemented his spot last year at the Canes. Would be a big call if he decided to move on.

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      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

        @BerhamporeNinja

        The Canes players with contract extensions are as follows, so won't be any of them.
        Tyrel Lomax: 2026
        Xavier Numia: 2025
        Asafo Aumua: 2025
        Isaia Walker-Leawere: 2025
        Du Plessis Kirifi: 2025
        Devan Flanders: 2024
        Peter Lakai: 2025
        TJ Perenara: 2025
        Bailyn Sullivan: 2024
        Billy Proctor: 2025
        Ruben Love: 2025
        Harry Godfrey: 2025
        Riley Higgins: 2024
        Josh Moorby: 2024
        Jordie Barrett: 2025
        Aiden Morgan: 2024
        Ardie Savea: 2025

        I'm picking it's out of the following players:
        Pasilio Tosi - the signing of Lauaki will likely push him out but he's not a high profile signing which the article states.
        Tevita Mafileo - unlikely considering he's pretty settled at the Canes and is building a nice front row partnership with Lomax.
        Brayden Iose - he is high profile enough IMO, and it wouldn't be the worst move for Brayden considering he's competing with Flanders and Lakai for the 8 position.
        TK Howden - I don't consider TK a high profile player yet. But because he's competing with Shields and Delany for that 6 jersey, he may decide to leave.
        Peter Umaga-Jensen - likely because Tana is his uncle, and he's competing with Higgins, Barrett, Proctor and Sullivan for regular mins.
        Salesi Rayasi - likely due to the Canes not wanting his services anymore.
        Kini Naholo - unlikely. He cemented his spot last year at the Canes. Would be a big call if he decided to move on.

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        @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2024:

        @BerhamporeNinja

        The Canes players with contract extensions are as follows, so won't be any of them.
        Tyrel Lomax: 2026
        Xavier Numia: 2025
        Asafo Aumua: 2025
        Isaia Walker-Leawere: 2025
        Du Plessis Kirifi: 2025
        Devan Flanders: 2024
        Peter Lakai: 2025
        TJ Perenara: 2025
        Bailyn Sullivan: 2024
        Billy Proctor: 2025
        Ruben Love: 2025
        Harry Godfrey: 2025
        Riley Higgins: 2024
        Josh Moorby: 2024
        Jordie Barrett: 2025
        Aiden Morgan: 2024
        Ardie Savea: 2025

        I'm picking it's out of the following players:
        Pasilio Tosi - the signing of Lauaki will likely push him out but he's not a high profile signing which the article states.
        Tevita Mafileo - unlikely considering he's pretty settled at the Canes and is building a nice front row partnership with Lomax.
        Brayden Iose - he is high profile enough IMO, and it wouldn't be the worst move for Brayden considering he's competing with Flanders and Lakai for the 8 position.
        TK Howden - I don't consider TK a high profile player yet. But because he's competing with Shields and Delany for that 6 jersey, he may decide to leave.
        Peter Umaga-Jensen - likely because Tana is his uncle, and he's competing with Higgins, Barrett, Proctor and Sullivan for regular mins.
        Salesi Rayasi - likely due to the Canes not wanting his services anymore.
        Kini Naholo - unlikely. He cemented his spot last year at the Canes. Would be a big call if he decided to move on.

        I'm no Canes fan, but interested you label it likely PUJ would move to Moana. Would be a massive call for a guy who presumably still has ABs aspirations.

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          @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2024:

          @BerhamporeNinja

          The Canes players with contract extensions are as follows, so won't be any of them.
          Tyrel Lomax: 2026
          Xavier Numia: 2025
          Asafo Aumua: 2025
          Isaia Walker-Leawere: 2025
          Du Plessis Kirifi: 2025
          Devan Flanders: 2024
          Peter Lakai: 2025
          TJ Perenara: 2025
          Bailyn Sullivan: 2024
          Billy Proctor: 2025
          Ruben Love: 2025
          Harry Godfrey: 2025
          Riley Higgins: 2024
          Josh Moorby: 2024
          Jordie Barrett: 2025
          Aiden Morgan: 2024
          Ardie Savea: 2025

          I'm picking it's out of the following players:
          Pasilio Tosi - the signing of Lauaki will likely push him out but he's not a high profile signing which the article states.
          Tevita Mafileo - unlikely considering he's pretty settled at the Canes and is building a nice front row partnership with Lomax.
          Brayden Iose - he is high profile enough IMO, and it wouldn't be the worst move for Brayden considering he's competing with Flanders and Lakai for the 8 position.
          TK Howden - I don't consider TK a high profile player yet. But because he's competing with Shields and Delany for that 6 jersey, he may decide to leave.
          Peter Umaga-Jensen - likely because Tana is his uncle, and he's competing with Higgins, Barrett, Proctor and Sullivan for regular mins.
          Salesi Rayasi - likely due to the Canes not wanting his services anymore.
          Kini Naholo - unlikely. He cemented his spot last year at the Canes. Would be a big call if he decided to move on.

          I'm no Canes fan, but interested you label it likely PUJ would move to Moana. Would be a massive call for a guy who presumably still has ABs aspirations.

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          @frugby you can still make the ABs playing for Moana though right? If it ends up being PUJ I would be surprised, taking into consideration that a move south to the Highlanders to join his bro instead, would be more appealing.

          That family connection with Tana and more playing minutes could be a huge factor though. And who knows, maybe the Highlanders already played their cards and didn't have space for PUJ.

          Another factor is that with Moana losing Aumua to the Crusaders, they would have gone hard for a quality centre like Peter.

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          • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

            @frugby you can still make the ABs playing for Moana though right? If it ends up being PUJ I would be surprised, taking into consideration that a move south to the Highlanders to join his bro instead, would be more appealing.

            That family connection with Tana and more playing minutes could be a huge factor though. And who knows, maybe the Highlanders already played their cards and didn't have space for PUJ.

            Another factor is that with Moana losing Aumua to the Crusaders, they would have gone hard for a quality centre like Peter.

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            @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2024:

            @frugby you can still make the ABs playing for Moana though right? If it ends up being PUJ I would be surprised, taking into consideration that a move south to the Highlanders to join his bro instead, would be more appealing.

            That family connection with Tana and more playing minutes could be a huge factor though. And who knows, maybe the Highlanders didn't have space for PUJ.

            What do you think are the chances that Bailyn Sullivan has secured an early release as he might be 5th in the midfield pecking order (If PUJ stayed)?

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              @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2024:

              @frugby you can still make the ABs playing for Moana though right? If it ends up being PUJ I would be surprised, taking into consideration that a move south to the Highlanders to join his bro instead, would be more appealing.

              That family connection with Tana and more playing minutes could be a huge factor though. And who knows, maybe the Highlanders didn't have space for PUJ.

              What do you think are the chances that Bailyn Sullivan has secured an early release as he might be 5th in the midfield pecking order (If PUJ stayed)?

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              @frugby potentially, I guess we will find out soon enough.

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              • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                @frugby you can still make the ABs playing for Moana though right? If it ends up being PUJ I would be surprised, taking into consideration that a move south to the Highlanders to join his bro instead, would be more appealing.

                That family connection with Tana and more playing minutes could be a huge factor though. And who knows, maybe the Highlanders already played their cards and didn't have space for PUJ.

                Another factor is that with Moana losing Aumua to the Crusaders, they would have gone hard for a quality centre like Peter.

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                @Canes4life makes sense if it were Peter, at the end of the day he needs game time!

                got a feeling might be Tosi, TK Howden or Rayasi or maybe even Alex Fidow maybe? we shall see, maybe uncle George might know something ?

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                • B BerhamporeNinja

                  @Canes4life makes sense if it were Peter, at the end of the day he needs game time!

                  got a feeling might be Tosi, TK Howden or Rayasi or maybe even Alex Fidow maybe? we shall see, maybe uncle George might know something ?

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                  @BerhamporeNinja won’t be Alex Fidow, he’s wasn’t a contracted Hurricane last year.

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                  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                    In the article from Club Rugby NZ below, they understand that two high profile Hurricanes players are signing with Moana Pasifika for next season. One is likely to be Julian Savea, anyone have any leads on who the other might be?

                    https://clubrugby.nz/wp/2023/09/04/sideline-conversions-4-september-some-rugby-news-and-information-to-start-the-week/

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                    @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2024:

                    In the article from Club Rugby NZ below, they understand that two high profile Hurricanes players are signing with Moana Pasifika for next season. One is likely to be Julian Savea, anyone have any leads on who the other might be?

                    Rayasi would make the most sense. I've been surprised that he stayed with Auckland in the NPC despite being at the Hurricanes. MP would mean he lives in one location all year

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                      Rayasi also played for MP against the Māori.

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                        @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2024:

                        In the article from Club Rugby NZ below, they understand that two high profile Hurricanes players are signing with Moana Pasifika for next season. One is likely to be Julian Savea, anyone have any leads on who the other might be?

                        Rayasi would make the most sense. I've been surprised that he stayed with Auckland in the NPC despite being at the Hurricanes. MP would mean he lives in one location all year

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                        @Duluth maybe so, but I think most of his family live in the Hutt so playing for the Canes allows him to be close to them for some of the year. I wonder if MP will announce those signings this week.

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                          Wider Crusader player and Cantab Joe Brial has signed for the Reds for the next couple of seasons.

                          https://reds.rugby/news/dual-international-joe-brial-signs-with-queensland-reds-through-2025-202394

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                            This seems like a pretty big deal.

                            I thought Armstrong was going to the Crusaders?

                            https://twitter.com/Fijian_Drua/status/1702442373286879254

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                              Great pickup for the Drua... sidenote, I read that the Super Rugby gear was coming out in time for Christmas... probably after the RWC I suppose? Has anyone seen any leaked designs?

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                                Great pickup for the Drua... sidenote, I read that the Super Rugby gear was coming out in time for Christmas... probably after the RWC I suppose? Has anyone seen any leaked designs?

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                                @frugby i normally keep a keen eye out for that stuff and havent seen anything

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                                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                  This seems like a pretty big deal.

                                  I thought Armstrong was going to the Crusaders?

                                  https://twitter.com/Fijian_Drua/status/1702442373286879254

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                                  @KiwiMurph

                                  As I said a week ago that seemed to have soured The Crusaders starting talking to some others.
                                  I believe the Hurricanes were also interested but Isaiah started to play them off a bit and the Crusaders and Hurricanes backed off.

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                                    @KiwiMurph

                                    As I said a week ago that seemed to have soured The Crusaders starting talking to some others.
                                    I believe the Hurricanes were also interested but Isaiah started to play them off a bit and the Crusaders and Hurricanes backed off.

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                                    @Chris Cheers

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                                      @KiwiMurph

                                      As I said a week ago that seemed to have soured The Crusaders starting talking to some others.
                                      I believe the Hurricanes were also interested but Isaiah started to play them off a bit and the Crusaders and Hurricanes backed off.

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                                      @Chris said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                      @KiwiMurph

                                      As I said a week ago that seemed to have soured The Crusaders starting talking to some others.
                                      I believe the Hurricanes were also interested but Isaiah started to play them off a bit and the Crusaders and Hurricanes backed off.

                                      That all sounds a bit odd. Two NZ teams are interested, but because he tried to get the best deal from one of them they both decided to punt him?

                                      Where were NZR in these negotiations, surely they have an interest in keeping top young NZ talent in NZ?

                                      Edit: @Chris Not asking thise questions specifically of you for an answer, but just musing out loud on the situation.

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                                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                        This seems like a pretty big deal.

                                        I thought Armstrong was going to the Crusaders?

                                        https://twitter.com/Fijian_Drua/status/1702442373286879254

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                                        @KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                        This seems like a pretty big deal.

                                        I thought Armstrong was going to the Crusaders?

                                        https://twitter.com/Fijian_Drua/status/1702442373286879254

                                        Looks like the decision not to pick him in the u20s this year has come back to bite us. Could potentially be a big loss to NZ rugby.

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                                          @Chris said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                          @KiwiMurph

                                          As I said a week ago that seemed to have soured The Crusaders starting talking to some others.
                                          I believe the Hurricanes were also interested but Isaiah started to play them off a bit and the Crusaders and Hurricanes backed off.

                                          That all sounds a bit odd. Two NZ teams are interested, but because he tried to get the best deal from one of them they both decided to punt him?

                                          Where were NZR in these negotiations, surely they have an interest in keeping top young NZ talent in NZ?

                                          Edit: @Chris Not asking thise questions specifically of you for an answer, but just musing out loud on the situation.

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                                          @Nepia

                                          Yep that is what I hear,The NZR were not interested apparently which is strange considering he is eligible.The Crusaders did approach the NZR which they have to for all signings with that idea of NZ u/20s for 2024 but NZR did not pick up the ball.

                                          edit The Crusaders apparently are looking for a First Five with experience to cover Burke and Kemera which makes sense.

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