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Blues 2024

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        • DuluthD Duluth

          https://www.blues.rugby/super-rugby-pacific-draw-2024

          Interesting that all the matches in Auckland are TBC. I wonder if there's going to be some development at Eden Park

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          @Duluth
          Blues have some serious financial woes ,so many targets not being hit around ticket attendance and merchandising along with several other KPI’s
          Refer to the link

          https://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwj_2ZrdkZ6BAxWRCIgKHXfcCGIQFnoECA0QAw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.newshub.co.nz%2Fhome%2Fsport%2F2023%2F08%2Fsuper-rugby-pacific-why-eden-park-was-left-off-blues-2024-schedule.html&usg=AOvVaw1FlsLN1f49w1r9E3JC7Q-U&opi=89978449

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            @Duluth
            Blues have some serious financial woes ,so many targets not being hit around ticket attendance and merchandising along with several other KPI’s
            Refer to the link

            https://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwj_2ZrdkZ6BAxWRCIgKHXfcCGIQFnoECA0QAw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.newshub.co.nz%2Fhome%2Fsport%2F2023%2F08%2Fsuper-rugby-pacific-why-eden-park-was-left-off-blues-2024-schedule.html&usg=AOvVaw1FlsLN1f49w1r9E3JC7Q-U&opi=89978449

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            @Steven-Harris time to cut super rugby.

            😉

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              @Steven-Harris time to cut super rugby.

              😉

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              @muddyriver said in Blues 2024:

              @Steven-Harris time to cut super rugby.

              😉

              ..and NPC

              Replace both with a single coherent pro comp 🙂

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                @Duluth
                Blues have some serious financial woes ,so many targets not being hit around ticket attendance and merchandising along with several other KPI’s
                Refer to the link

                https://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwj_2ZrdkZ6BAxWRCIgKHXfcCGIQFnoECA0QAw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.newshub.co.nz%2Fhome%2Fsport%2F2023%2F08%2Fsuper-rugby-pacific-why-eden-park-was-left-off-blues-2024-schedule.html&usg=AOvVaw1FlsLN1f49w1r9E3JC7Q-U&opi=89978449

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                @Steven-Harris the only mention of ticket sales I can see in that link is a comment about a 44% increase in membership last year, is there something I'm missing?

                It does make sense though, I can't think of any domestic rugby team that would fill Eden Park week after week.

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                  @Duluth
                  Blues have some serious financial woes ,so many targets not being hit around ticket attendance and merchandising along with several other KPI’s
                  Refer to the link

                  https://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwj_2ZrdkZ6BAxWRCIgKHXfcCGIQFnoECA0QAw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.newshub.co.nz%2Fhome%2Fsport%2F2023%2F08%2Fsuper-rugby-pacific-why-eden-park-was-left-off-blues-2024-schedule.html&usg=AOvVaw1FlsLN1f49w1r9E3JC7Q-U&opi=89978449

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                  @Steven-Harris said in Blues 2024:

                  @Duluth
                  Blues have some serious financial woes ,so many targets not being hit around ticket attendance and merchandising along with several other KPI’s
                  Refer to the link

                  https://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwj_2ZrdkZ6BAxWRCIgKHXfcCGIQFnoECA0QAw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.newshub.co.nz%2Fhome%2Fsport%2F2023%2F08%2Fsuper-rugby-pacific-why-eden-park-was-left-off-blues-2024-schedule.html&usg=AOvVaw1FlsLN1f49w1r9E3JC7Q-U&opi=89978449

                  Is this the same source when you said only 5,000 tickets were sold for Blues Crusaders and the crowd was 25k?

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                  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                    @Steven-Harris said in Blues 2024:

                    @Duluth
                    Blues have some serious financial woes ,so many targets not being hit around ticket attendance and merchandising along with several other KPI’s
                    Refer to the link

                    https://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwj_2ZrdkZ6BAxWRCIgKHXfcCGIQFnoECA0QAw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.newshub.co.nz%2Fhome%2Fsport%2F2023%2F08%2Fsuper-rugby-pacific-why-eden-park-was-left-off-blues-2024-schedule.html&usg=AOvVaw1FlsLN1f49w1r9E3JC7Q-U&opi=89978449

                    Is this the same source when you said only 5,000 tickets were sold for Blues Crusaders and the crowd was 25k?

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                    @KiwiMurph leading up to that particular game and I am talking 5 days out the ticket sales were poor it was only late surge that saw the ticket sales lift but the Blues are way short of where they need to be in terms of KPIs , the outlay to stage super rugby matches outweighs what’s coming back in ,the Eden Park trust won’t give them any more credit , that’s the crux of it hence none of the games have been locked in .
                    Probably something they won’t want to announce themselves
                    I am really surprised the Media have not locked onto this story , I have heard they have had financial problems from 3 or 4 people who deal with the franchise indirectly.
                    There’s no renovations ,FIFA World cups or NRL games scheduled for those times

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                      @KiwiMurph leading up to that particular game and I am talking 5 days out the ticket sales were poor it was only late surge that saw the ticket sales lift but the Blues are way short of where they need to be in terms of KPIs , the outlay to stage super rugby matches outweighs what’s coming back in ,the Eden Park trust won’t give them any more credit , that’s the crux of it hence none of the games have been locked in .
                      Probably something they won’t want to announce themselves
                      I am really surprised the Media have not locked onto this story , I have heard they have had financial problems from 3 or 4 people who deal with the franchise indirectly.
                      There’s no renovations ,FIFA World cups or NRL games scheduled for those times

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                      @Steven-Harris I don't blame the Blues then. I don't think their crowd numbers are that bad - they would have one of the highest average crowds in the comp (low bar but still).

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                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                        @Steven-Harris I don't blame the Blues then. I don't think their crowd numbers are that bad - they would have one of the highest average crowds in the comp (low bar but still).

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                        @KiwiMurph so they should they have by far and away the largest population (of any NZ team anyway).

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                        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                          @KiwiMurph so they should they have by far and away the largest population (of any NZ team anyway).

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                          @Canes4life said in Blues 2024:

                          @KiwiMurph so they should they have by far and away the largest population (of any NZ team anyway).

                          Of course - but i'm talking about the issue of having big enough crowds to keep playing games at their stadium.

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                            @Canes4life said in Blues 2024:

                            @KiwiMurph so they should they have by far and away the largest population (of any NZ team anyway).

                            Of course - but i'm talking about the issue of having big enough crowds to keep playing games at their stadium.

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                            @KiwiMurph I noted that Andrew Hore was shown in the crowd at the Auckland-Canterbury game.

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                              @KiwiMurph so they should they have by far and away the largest population (of any NZ team anyway).

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                              @Canes4life said in Blues 2024:

                              they have by far and away the largest population (of any NZ team anyway).

                              People assume that but it’s not true.

                              Using the 2019 numbers

                              Region Population
                              Blues 1.396m
                              Chiefs 1.333m
                              Hurricanes 1.019m
                              Crusaders 0.797m
                              Highlanders 0.337m

                              Chiefs should play away from Hamilton more

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                              • DuluthD Duluth

                                @Canes4life said in Blues 2024:

                                they have by far and away the largest population (of any NZ team anyway).

                                People assume that but it’s not true.

                                Using the 2019 numbers

                                Region Population
                                Blues 1.396m
                                Chiefs 1.333m
                                Hurricanes 1.019m
                                Crusaders 0.797m
                                Highlanders 0.337m

                                Chiefs should play away from Hamilton more

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                                Machpants
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                                @Duluth said in Blues 2024:

                                @Canes4life said in Blues 2024:

                                they have by far and away the largest population (of any NZ team anyway).

                                People assume that but it’s not true.

                                Using the 2019 numbers

                                Region Population
                                Blues 1.396m
                                Chiefs 1.333m
                                Hurricanes 1.019m
                                Crusaders 0.797m
                                Highlanders 0.337m

                                Chiefs should play away from Hamilton more

                                I think it would be different if you put those within a half hour or so trip to the ground

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                                  @Duluth said in Blues 2024:

                                  @Canes4life said in Blues 2024:

                                  they have by far and away the largest population (of any NZ team anyway).

                                  People assume that but it’s not true.

                                  Using the 2019 numbers

                                  Region Population
                                  Blues 1.396m
                                  Chiefs 1.333m
                                  Hurricanes 1.019m
                                  Crusaders 0.797m
                                  Highlanders 0.337m

                                  Chiefs should play away from Hamilton more

                                  I think it would be different if you put those within a half hour or so trip to the ground

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                                  @Machpants no shit. Just correcting the common population error

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                                  • DuluthD Duluth

                                    @Canes4life said in Blues 2024:

                                    they have by far and away the largest population (of any NZ team anyway).

                                    People assume that but it’s not true.

                                    Using the 2019 numbers

                                    Region Population
                                    Blues 1.396m
                                    Chiefs 1.333m
                                    Hurricanes 1.019m
                                    Crusaders 0.797m
                                    Highlanders 0.337m

                                    Chiefs should play away from Hamilton more

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                                    frugby
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                                    @Duluth said in Blues 2024:

                                    @Canes4life said in Blues 2024:

                                    they have by far and away the largest population (of any NZ team anyway).

                                    People assume that but it’s not true.

                                    Using the 2019 numbers

                                    Region Population
                                    Blues 1.396m
                                    Chiefs 1.333m
                                    Hurricanes 1.019m
                                    Crusaders 0.797m
                                    Highlanders 0.337m

                                    Chiefs should play away from Hamilton more

                                    This of course includes Counties and Taranaki, who will have a fair portion who actually support the Blues and the Hurricanes...

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                                        From the Club Rugby website:

                                        Club Rugby understands that Tawa prop PJ Scheck is moving to the Blues.

                                        The Wellington Lions prop spent time at the Highlanders this year and played one Super Rugby match. He has played 25 matches for the Lions since his debut against Northland two seasons ago.

                                        Wait and see whether this rumour is correct.

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                                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                                          From the Club Rugby website:

                                          Club Rugby understands that Tawa prop PJ Scheck is moving to the Blues.

                                          The Wellington Lions prop spent time at the Highlanders this year and played one Super Rugby match. He has played 25 matches for the Lions since his debut against Northland two seasons ago.

                                          Wait and see whether this rumour is correct.

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                                          @Stargazer it's correct.

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