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    stodders
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    In all seriousness, best to worst)

    Lochore (reinvigorated a team that was torn apart by Cavaliers tour)
    Henry (his team were down to 4th best flyhalf and NZ hadn’t won RWC for 24 years)
    Hansen
    Foster (if he wins)
    Mains (best team in RWC. Would have won if it wasn’t for Matt Damon, low flying jumbos and Saint Nelson)
    Mitchell (got Eddie’d)
    Wyllie (got Campo’d)
    Hart (that French game was an aberration, but so in keeping with the shit show from 1998)
    Foster (if he doesn’t win)

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    • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

      going to have to come back to this after some thought, but you have Mitchell over Henry?

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      @Kiwiwomble coaches are in chronological order

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        going to have to come back to this after some thought, but you have Mitchell over Henry?

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        @Kiwiwomble In order of time.

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          ....yeah....that makes sense...my bad, i just saw fozzie at the bottom and assumed it was already in order

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            one thing i do know, even winning wont save fozzie in my book, too many other failings over the last four years

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              Is this really a thread to rank coaches, or just another splinter which belongs in the Foster Derangement shit tip?

              An interesting discussion, but perhaps can we exclude Foster from this?

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                In all seriousness, best to worst)

                Lochore (reinvigorated a team that was torn apart by Cavaliers tour)
                Henry (his team were down to 4th best flyhalf and NZ hadn’t won RWC for 24 years)
                Hansen
                Foster (if he wins)
                Mains (best team in RWC. Would have won if it wasn’t for Matt Damon, low flying jumbos and Saint Nelson)
                Mitchell (got Eddie’d)
                Wyllie (got Campo’d)
                Hart (that French game was an aberration, but so in keeping with the shit show from 1998)
                Foster (if he doesn’t win)

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                @stodders said in Rank your AB RWC coaches:

                In all seriousness, best to worst)

                Lochore (reinvigorated a team that was torn apart by Cavaliers tour)
                Henry (his team were down to 4th best flyhalf and NZ hadn’t won RWC for 24 years)
                Hansen
                Foster (if he wins)
                Mains (best team in RWC. Would have won if it wasn’t for Matt Damon, low flying jumbos and Saint Nelson)
                Mitchell (got Eddie’d)
                Wyllie (got Campo’d)
                Hart (that French game was an aberration, but so in keeping with the shit show from 1998)
                Foster (if he doesn’t win)

                I think this is pretty harsh given how he went in 96 and 97.

                I’m too young ( or maybe I wasn’t interested enough ) to comment on Lochore or Wyllie. Being 10 and 14 respectively probably doesn’t give me much scope to make much analysis.

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                • MajorPomM MajorPom

                  Is this really a thread to rank coaches, or just another splinter which belongs in the Foster Derangement shit tip?

                  An interesting discussion, but perhaps can we exclude Foster from this?

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                  @MajorRage Definitely not.

                  The most interesting thing for me is to see how people will rate Fozzie if he wins the thing.

                  It will be a bit boring retrospectively!

                  Edit: And if you look at my recent posts, I'm probably not suffering from what you call FDS.

                  I'm still thinking Fozzie is as likely to win as anyone.

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                    @stodders said in Rank your AB RWC coaches:

                    In all seriousness, best to worst)

                    Lochore (reinvigorated a team that was torn apart by Cavaliers tour)
                    Henry (his team were down to 4th best flyhalf and NZ hadn’t won RWC for 24 years)
                    Hansen
                    Foster (if he wins)
                    Mains (best team in RWC. Would have won if it wasn’t for Matt Damon, low flying jumbos and Saint Nelson)
                    Mitchell (got Eddie’d)
                    Wyllie (got Campo’d)
                    Hart (that French game was an aberration, but so in keeping with the shit show from 1998)
                    Foster (if he doesn’t win)

                    I think this is pretty harsh given how he went in 96 and 97.

                    I’m too young ( or maybe I wasn’t interested enough ) to comment on Lochore or Wyllie. Being 10 and 14 respectively probably doesn’t give me much scope to make much analysis.

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                    @MN5 im the same if im honest...but the bias otago fan in me will also probably claim hart relied on a core of a team that Mains brought together...and probably the same with Hansen and Henry

                    *dont ask me to back that up with any facts...remember where we are

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                      My worst coaches in no particular order are:
                      Mitchell because he dropped Cullen.
                      Hart because he played Cullen at centre.
                      Foster because he’s damaged the All Black’s reputation with his shit record.

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                        Wayne Smith was a head coach for two years.

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                        • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                          @MN5 im the same if im honest...but the bias otago fan in me will also probably claim hart relied on a core of a team that Mains brought together...and probably the same with Hansen and Henry

                          *dont ask me to back that up with any facts...remember where we are

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                          @Kiwiwomble said in Rank your AB RWC coaches:

                          @MN5 im the same if im honest...but the bias otago fan in me will also probably claim hart relied on a core of a team that Mains brought together...and probably the same with Hansen and Henry

                          *dont ask me to back that up with any facts...remember where we are

                          Hart took a punt on Cullen. If he didn’t we would have had to put up with a far inferior fullback in Glen Osborne.

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                            Wayne Smith was a head coach for two years.

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                            @Tim said in Rank your AB RWC coaches:

                            Wayne Smith was a head coach for two years.

                            But, he was never head coach at a World Cup.

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                              @Tim said in Rank your AB RWC coaches:

                              Wayne Smith was a head coach for two years.

                              But, he was never head coach at a World Cup.

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                              @Chris-B Aha.

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                                @stodders said in Rank your AB RWC coaches:

                                In all seriousness, best to worst)

                                Lochore (reinvigorated a team that was torn apart by Cavaliers tour)
                                Henry (his team were down to 4th best flyhalf and NZ hadn’t won RWC for 24 years)
                                Hansen
                                Foster (if he wins)
                                Mains (best team in RWC. Would have won if it wasn’t for Matt Damon, low flying jumbos and Saint Nelson)
                                Mitchell (got Eddie’d)
                                Wyllie (got Campo’d)
                                Hart (that French game was an aberration, but so in keeping with the shit show from 1998)
                                Foster (if he doesn’t win)

                                I think this is pretty harsh given how he went in 96 and 97.

                                I’m too young ( or maybe I wasn’t interested enough ) to comment on Lochore or Wyllie. Being 10 and 14 respectively probably doesn’t give me much scope to make much analysis.

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                                  @Kiwiwomble said in Rank your AB RWC coaches:

                                  @MN5 im the same if im honest...but the bias otago fan in me will also probably claim hart relied on a core of a team that Mains brought together...and probably the same with Hansen and Henry

                                  *dont ask me to back that up with any facts...remember where we are

                                  Hart took a punt on Cullen. If he didn’t we would have had to put up with a far inferior fullback in Glen Osborne.

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                                  @MN5 I just went on their World Cup coaching performance. Seemed easier 😂

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                                    In all seriousness, best to worst)

                                    Lochore (reinvigorated a team that was torn apart by Cavaliers tour)
                                    Henry (his team were down to 4th best flyhalf and NZ hadn’t won RWC for 24 years)
                                    Hansen
                                    Foster (if he wins)
                                    Mains (best team in RWC. Would have won if it wasn’t for Matt Damon, low flying jumbos and Saint Nelson)
                                    Mitchell (got Eddie’d)
                                    Wyllie (got Campo’d)
                                    Hart (that French game was an aberration, but so in keeping with the shit show from 1998)
                                    Foster (if he doesn’t win)

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                                    @stodders said in Rank your AB RWC coaches:

                                    In all seriousness, best to worst)

                                    Lochore (reinvigorated a team that was torn apart by Cavaliers tour)
                                    Henry (his team were down to 4th best flyhalf and NZ hadn’t won RWC for 24 years)
                                    Hansen
                                    Foster (if he wins)
                                    Mains (best team in RWC. Would have won if it wasn’t for Matt Damon, low flying jumbos and Saint Nelson)
                                    Mitchell (got Eddie’d)
                                    Wyllie (got Campo’d)
                                    Hart (that French game was an aberration, but so in keeping with the shit show from 1998)
                                    Foster (if he doesn’t win)

                                    You forgot Suzie and her dodgy tea urn

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                                      For me it is irrelevant if he wins or loses.

                                      I'd loathe if test rugby has come to this where we sacrifice 3 years of test rugby purely to win the RWC, I love that in rugby every game matters, or used to, we don't have 'friendlies'.

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                                      • S stodders

                                        Foster (if he wins) must rank as the best given he’s coaching the worst NZ team ever to appear at a World Cup against amazing, generational teams like France, Ireland and SA 😉

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                                        @stodders said in Rank your AB RWC coaches:

                                        Foster (if he wins) must rank as the best given he’s coaching the worst NZ team ever to appear at a World Cup against amazing, generational teams like France, Ireland and SA 😉

                                        That's a very good shout

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                                          In all seriousness, best to worst)

                                          Lochore (reinvigorated a team that was torn apart by Cavaliers tour)
                                          Henry (his team were down to 4th best flyhalf and NZ hadn’t won RWC for 24 years)
                                          Hansen
                                          Foster (if he wins)
                                          Mains (best team in RWC. Would have won if it wasn’t for Matt Damon, low flying jumbos and Saint Nelson)
                                          Mitchell (got Eddie’d)
                                          Wyllie (got Campo’d)
                                          Hart (that French game was an aberration, but so in keeping with the shit show from 1998)
                                          Foster (if he doesn’t win)

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                                          @stodders said in Rank your AB RWC coaches:

                                          Lochore (reinvigorated a team that was torn apart by Cavaliers tour)
                                          Henry (his team were down to 4th best flyhalf and NZ hadn’t won RWC for 24 years)
                                          Hansen
                                          Foster (if he wins)
                                          Mains (best team in RWC. Would have won if it wasn’t for Matt Damon, low flying jumbos and Saint Nelson)
                                          Mitchell (got Eddie’d)
                                          Wyllie (got Campo’d)
                                          Hart (that French game was an aberration, but so in keeping with the shit show from 1998)
                                          Foster (if he doesn’t win)

                                          This looks pretty close to me. Though I'd put Mitchell ahead of Mains.

                                          Arguably, the difference between the 1992 - 1994 Laurie Mains shambles (selection idiocies over the three years, and eventually 2 wins from 6 in 1994) and 1995 Laure Mains was the addition of Brian Lochore into the 1995 RWC mix. So I tend to credit that campaign in Lochore's direction as well.

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