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The Current State of Rugby

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  • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

    @frugby said in The Current State of Rugby:

    Classic example was this morning's game. 25 scrums, 25 lineouts, 30 penalties made for an absolute snoozefest.

    You must have been watching a different game from me

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    @MiketheSnow said in The Current State of Rugby:

    @frugby said in The Current State of Rugby:

    Classic example was this morning's game. 25 scrums, 25 lineouts, 30 penalties made for an absolute snoozefest.

    You must have been watching a different game from me

    It was cool to see Uruguay do well, and as I said, it is good that they were able to compete through set piece, but I wouldn't have described it as a great spectacle. Not necessarily anyone's fault, you are always going to get games like this from time to time.

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    • frugbyF frugby

      @MiketheSnow said in The Current State of Rugby:

      @frugby said in The Current State of Rugby:

      Classic example was this morning's game. 25 scrums, 25 lineouts, 30 penalties made for an absolute snoozefest.

      You must have been watching a different game from me

      It was cool to see Uruguay do well, and as I said, it is good that they were able to compete through set piece, but I wouldn't have described it as a great spectacle. Not necessarily anyone's fault, you are always going to get games like this from time to time.

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      @frugby said in The Current State of Rugby:

      @MiketheSnow said in The Current State of Rugby:

      @frugby said in The Current State of Rugby:

      Classic example was this morning's game. 25 scrums, 25 lineouts, 30 penalties made for an absolute snoozefest.

      You must have been watching a different game from me

      It was cool to see Uruguay do well, and as I said, it is good that they were able to compete through set piece, but I wouldn't have described it as a great spectacle. Not necessarily anyone's fault, you are always going to get games like this from time to time.

      They had far more to offer than just set piece

      Them v Italy could be one of the games of the tournament

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      • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

        @frugby said in The Current State of Rugby:

        @MiketheSnow said in The Current State of Rugby:

        @frugby said in The Current State of Rugby:

        Classic example was this morning's game. 25 scrums, 25 lineouts, 30 penalties made for an absolute snoozefest.

        You must have been watching a different game from me

        It was cool to see Uruguay do well, and as I said, it is good that they were able to compete through set piece, but I wouldn't have described it as a great spectacle. Not necessarily anyone's fault, you are always going to get games like this from time to time.

        They had far more to offer than just set piece

        Them v Italy could be one of the games of the tournament

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        @MiketheSnow said in The Current State of Rugby:

        @frugby said in The Current State of Rugby:

        @MiketheSnow said in The Current State of Rugby:

        @frugby said in The Current State of Rugby:

        Classic example was this morning's game. 25 scrums, 25 lineouts, 30 penalties made for an absolute snoozefest.

        You must have been watching a different game from me

        It was cool to see Uruguay do well, and as I said, it is good that they were able to compete through set piece, but I wouldn't have described it as a great spectacle. Not necessarily anyone's fault, you are always going to get games like this from time to time.

        They had far more to offer than just set piece

        Them v Italy could be one of the games of the tournament

        I never said they didn't, but it was a key part in allowing them to compete. They were very good at stopping the rolling maul, and they worked a few scrum penalties, allowing them to find territory.

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        • frugbyF frugby

          @MiketheSnow said in The Current State of Rugby:

          @frugby said in The Current State of Rugby:

          Classic example was this morning's game. 25 scrums, 25 lineouts, 30 penalties made for an absolute snoozefest.

          You must have been watching a different game from me

          It was cool to see Uruguay do well, and as I said, it is good that they were able to compete through set piece, but I wouldn't have described it as a great spectacle. Not necessarily anyone's fault, you are always going to get games like this from time to time.

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          @frugby said in The Current State of Rugby:

          @MiketheSnow said in The Current State of Rugby:

          @frugby said in The Current State of Rugby:

          Classic example was this morning's game. 25 scrums, 25 lineouts, 30 penalties made for an absolute snoozefest.

          You must have been watching a different game from me

          It was cool to see Uruguay do well, and as I said, it is good that they were able to compete through set piece, but I wouldn't have described it as a great spectacle. Not necessarily anyone's fault, you are always going to get games like this from time to time.

          I really enjoyed the game, maybe just seeing people actually seemingly having fun, sometimes I think the pursuit of the highest possible levels…kills the enjoyment

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          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

            @nostrildamus said in The Current State of Rugby:

            @mariner4life said in The Current State of Rugby:

            Fans (and losing coaches) will always blame the ref.

            At least on TSF posters are more generous and also blame (other)TSF posters as well.

            yeah damn you, you have cost me teams so often over the years

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            @mariner4life said in The Current State of Rugby:

            yeah damn you, you have cost me teams so often over the years

            Foster hasn't sent me a Christmas card for years..

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              Yeah I'm firmly on this train. During some of these endless breaks and video reviews I have more than enough time to have a shower, shave and a long poo. Reminds me why I stopped my subscription to Stan. International rugby is absolutely shit as a spectacle and if I wasn't this invested after 40 odd years I'd happily spend my time doing other things.

              The game is still wonderful. It's great just watching it at school level. But fŭck this TV product.

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              • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

                Yeah I'm firmly on this train. During some of these endless breaks and video reviews I have more than enough time to have a shower, shave and a long poo. Reminds me why I stopped my subscription to Stan. International rugby is absolutely shit as a spectacle and if I wasn't this invested after 40 odd years I'd happily spend my time doing other things.

                The game is still wonderful. It's great just watching it at school level. But fŭck this TV product.

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                @Rancid-Schnitzel said in The Current State of Rugby:

                Yeah I'm firmly on this train. During some of these endless breaks and video reviews I have more than enough time to have a shower, shave and a long poo. Reminds me why I stopped my subscription to Stan. International rugby is absolutely shit as a spectacle and if I wasn't this invested after 40 odd years I'd happily spend my time doing other things.

                The game is still wonderful. It's great just watching it at school level. But fŭck this TV product.

                The girl came into the lounge this morning and bemoaned the fact that the Rugby was STILL on…….( not that we have any exciting plans for a typically windy Wellington day but it’s the principle )

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                • MN5M MN5

                  @Rancid-Schnitzel said in The Current State of Rugby:

                  Yeah I'm firmly on this train. During some of these endless breaks and video reviews I have more than enough time to have a shower, shave and a long poo. Reminds me why I stopped my subscription to Stan. International rugby is absolutely shit as a spectacle and if I wasn't this invested after 40 odd years I'd happily spend my time doing other things.

                  The game is still wonderful. It's great just watching it at school level. But fŭck this TV product.

                  The girl came into the lounge this morning and bemoaned the fact that the Rugby was STILL on…….( not that we have any exciting plans for a typically windy Wellington day but it’s the principle )

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                  @MN5 said in The Current State of Rugby:

                  @Rancid-Schnitzel said in The Current State of Rugby:

                  Yeah I'm firmly on this train. During some of these endless breaks and video reviews I have more than enough time to have a shower, shave and a long poo. Reminds me why I stopped my subscription to Stan. International rugby is absolutely shit as a spectacle and if I wasn't this invested after 40 odd years I'd happily spend my time doing other things.

                  The game is still wonderful. It's great just watching it at school level. But fŭck this TV product.

                  The girl came into the lounge this morning and bemoaned the fact that the Rugby was STILL on…….( not that we have any exciting plans for a typically windy Wellington day but it’s the principle )

                  Yeah I don't have time to make a day of it.

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                    One thing that would be a great improvement is automating the offside line policing with cameras and AI. So the refs aren't directly involved, just get a word in their ear, and can focus on other things.

                    At the moment, the constant 0.5m offsides make for a shit spectacle, and it's only ever randomly policed.

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                    • NTAN NTA

                      @mariner4life said in The Current State of Rugby:

                      And even if I am wrong, it 8s most certainly not the sport I played a little over a decade ago

                      The professional game has been moving away from the rest of us for years. Because money.

                      That has been going on for - literally - decades, and has always been inferior based on your reasoning when compared to league.

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                      @NTA said in The Current State of Rugby:

                      The professional game has been moving away from the rest of us for years. Because money.

                      In England, the professional game seems to have imploded. Might just be a good thing and force a re-think here at all levels.

                      Not too sure that the game itself is getting less a spectacle or enjoyable. The 6N's have developed into a really high quality event in the last few years - close games, unexpected results and some outstanding rugby.

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                      • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

                        Yeah I'm firmly on this train. During some of these endless breaks and video reviews I have more than enough time to have a shower, shave and a long poo. Reminds me why I stopped my subscription to Stan. International rugby is absolutely shit as a spectacle and if I wasn't this invested after 40 odd years I'd happily spend my time doing other things.

                        The game is still wonderful. It's great just watching it at school level. But fŭck this TV product.

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                        @Rancid-Schnitzel said in The Current State of Rugby:

                        The game is still wonderful. It's great just watching it at school level. But fŭck this TV product.

                        This in a nutshell. When the game is driven by what makes a good TV spectacle, it loses out. Anthems, Haka and then on with the game - the commercial breaks before kick-off make me want to throw a brick at the TV.

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                        • MN5M MN5

                          @Rancid-Schnitzel said in The Current State of Rugby:

                          Yeah I'm firmly on this train. During some of these endless breaks and video reviews I have more than enough time to have a shower, shave and a long poo. Reminds me why I stopped my subscription to Stan. International rugby is absolutely shit as a spectacle and if I wasn't this invested after 40 odd years I'd happily spend my time doing other things.

                          The game is still wonderful. It's great just watching it at school level. But fŭck this TV product.

                          The girl came into the lounge this morning and bemoaned the fact that the Rugby was STILL on…….( not that we have any exciting plans for a typically windy Wellington day but it’s the principle )

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                          @MN5 said in The Current State of Rugby:

                          @Rancid-Schnitzel said in The Current State of Rugby:

                          Yeah I'm firmly on this train. During some of these endless breaks and video reviews I have more than enough time to have a shower, shave and a long poo. Reminds me why I stopped my subscription to Stan. International rugby is absolutely shit as a spectacle and if I wasn't this invested after 40 odd years I'd happily spend my time doing other things.

                          The game is still wonderful. It's great just watching it at school level. But fŭck this TV product.

                          The girl came into the lounge this morning and bemoaned the fact that the Rugby was STILL on…….( not that we have any exciting plans for a typically windy Wellington day but it’s the principle )

                          Just tell her "four more years"

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                            Went to the Warriors game last night. For the spectacle, the speed of the game, and the crowd atmosphere, it shat on most of the rugby I've seen for some time, rivalled by the women's RWC final in my recent memory

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                              I think they need to go back to the TMO only looking at foul play or if the ref asks.to.look at something.

                              Right now it feels like they are looking for something wrong in everything, which there is, often given how technical things have become.

                              As @mariner4life says, it's like rugby hates itself...

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                              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                I think they need to go back to the TMO only looking at foul play or if the ref asks.to.look at something.

                                Right now it feels like they are looking for something wrong in everything, which there is, often given how technical things have become.

                                As @mariner4life says, it's like rugby hates itself...

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                                @taniwharugby said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                Right now it feels like they are looking for something wrong in everything, which there is, often given how technical things have become.

                                You've nailed it for me.

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                                  The Fiji-Australia game was all-time classic.

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                                  • sparkyS sparky

                                    The Fiji-Australia game was all-time classic.

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                                    @sparky Fiji play how most would like to play, but won't or can't, and seems like they are having fun while doing it

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                                    • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                      @taniwharugby said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                      Right now it feels like they are looking for something wrong in everything, which there is, often given how technical things have become.

                                      You've nailed it for me.

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                                      @Victor-Meldrew said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                      @taniwharugby said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                      Right now it feels like they are looking for something wrong in everything, which there is, often given how technical things have become.

                                      You've nailed it for me.

                                      And me.

                                      Looking for reasons to get people off the field

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                                      • nzzpN nzzp

                                        @Victor-Meldrew said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                        @taniwharugby said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                        Right now it feels like they are looking for something wrong in everything, which there is, often given how technical things have become.

                                        You've nailed it for me.

                                        And me.

                                        Looking for reasons to get people off the field

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                                        @nzzp said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                        @Victor-Meldrew said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                        @taniwharugby said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                        Right now it feels like they are looking for something wrong in everything, which there is, often given how technical things have become.

                                        You've nailed it for me.

                                        And me.

                                        Looking for reasons to get people off the field

                                        The fact the solution in rugby is so often to remove people from the field simply supports the case for the existence of the 13 man code

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                                        • J junior

                                          @nzzp said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                          @Victor-Meldrew said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                          @taniwharugby said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                          Right now it feels like they are looking for something wrong in everything, which there is, often given how technical things have become.

                                          You've nailed it for me.

                                          And me.

                                          Looking for reasons to get people off the field

                                          The fact the solution in rugby is so often to remove people from the field simply supports the case for the existence of the 13 man code

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                                          @junior said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                          @nzzp said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                          @Victor-Meldrew said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                          @taniwharugby said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                          Right now it feels like they are looking for something wrong in everything, which there is, often given how technical things have become.

                                          You've nailed it for me.

                                          And me.

                                          Looking for reasons to get people off the field

                                          The fact the solution in rugby is so often to remove people from the field simply supports the case for the existence of the 13 man code

                                          A decent 15 man game is vastly better than a decent 13 man game for me anytime - the Fiji-Oz game being a case in point. Not much needs to be done to get the game back on track IMHO.

                                          That said, SOO is up there with an AB-Bok game for intensity.

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