Aussie Pro Rugby
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From Australian Schools Rugby FB:
The Best of Schoolboys Rugby Live and Exclusive on Cluch
Wed 20 Sept: ACT Schools v Tonga Schoolboys
Trilateral Series Sat 23, Mon 25 and Thu 28 September at Knox Grammar School, Wahroonga (Sydney).
Sat 23 Sep: Australian Schoolboys v Australian Schools Barbarians
Mon 25 Sep: Tonga Schoolboys v Australian Schools Barbarians
Thu 28 Sep: Tonga Schoolboys v Australian Schoolboys
@Stargazer said in Aussie Rugby:
From Australian Schools Rugby FB:
The Best of Schoolboys Rugby Live and Exclusive on Cluch
I've got some free codes for cluch lying around somewhere I think
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Is there a difference between the Australian Schoolboys and Australian U18s? The latter is meant to be playing NZ Schools also on Sep 28.
@Bovidae Good question and I don't have the answer.
I understand that the Australian Schoolboys team that will play Tonga Schoolboys falls under the Australian Schools Rugby Union ‘ASRU’, which is run by independent volunteers. I have no idea how they relate to Rugby Australia. It's the same team that NZ played in the past, because they posted about those games on their website, including results and match reports.
If you look at the RA run website rugby.com.au, then you don't find any info about the Australian Schoolboys team playing Tonga, or anything about the Australian Schoolboys, Australia U18 or "Australia Schools and U18" team at all since 2022. There are articles from 2022 about the "Australian Schools and U18s" team playing (and beating) NZ, that year.
All the info combined seems to suggest that it's all one and the same team, but how the Aussie team is named is inconsistent, and that may or may not have to do with the inclusion of U18 players who aren't schoolboys.
It's really weird though, that neither the ASRU or the rugby.com.au site says anything at all about the games against NZ Schools.
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When they played in NZ in 2019 their team was called Australia Schools under the RA banner. I guess we'll find out sooner enough.
@Bovidae said in Aussie Rugby:
When they played in NZ in 2019 their team was called Australia Schools under the RA banner. I guess we'll find out sooner enough.
That's the confusing bit, because both the rugby.com.au website and the Australian Schools Rugby website called it the Australian Schools and U18 team in 2019.
https://schoolsrugby.com.au/australian-schools-and-u18s-new-zealand-tour-2019-team-list/
https://www.rugby.com.au/news/2019/10/04/schools-u18s-australia-new-zealand-match
RESULT
Australian Schools and U18s 18
Tries: ... etc
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I'm starting to wonder whether that game on 28 September is not against "Australia U18" (or Schoolboys or whatever), but against Australian Barbarians. NZ Schools never played Australia Schoolboys twice on tour in the past. It was usually one game against Australian Barbarians and then the last game against Australia Schoolboys.
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Smith is the best Aussie 7 ever. Interesting discussion here about how to push the buttons on the best competitors.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cv68I8Lgina/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
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@barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:
Worth noting that ARU have heavily subsidised Women's 7s, just not 15s. Which was a fair decision at the time but probably needs some re-assessment now.
Agreed, but even then: 7s can run on a fairly lean budget because you're looking for a certain type of player you can bring up to speed - even nabbing them from another sport (the irony). Doesn't need much below that in terms of regular competition.
Also winning and Olympic medal helps.
Getting 15s going requries a much larger investment to get right. Requires working structures below it at a couple of levels, and SuperW is all we have right now, with very amateur feeder systems below that. If we want to be good, that isn't enough.
As with men's rugby, most of the starting XV for any women's rugby team in Australia is a potential target for NRLW, which seeks to grow. It can pull from its own development systems but could take the easy option and raid our ranks to get the competition running.
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby:
As with men's rugby, most of the starting XV for any women's rugby team in Australia is a potential target for NRLW, which seeks to grow. It can pull from its own development systems but could take the easy option and raid our ranks to get the competition running.
An engaging name that keeps away the NRL but attracts the curious might help.
What about the Womb-bats? The Brown Booby Island Birds? The Screaming Gal-Lahs?Don't need to be fauna-related? Then how about:
The She-Las? Pussies in Boots?I'm here all week. There's probably a reason I'm not in marketing.
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@NTA said in Aussie Rugby:
Pour yourself a rose
Not going to be there for 25 Lions and beyond
Surplus to requirements
I think Eddie has been very clear about that
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@NTA said in Aussie Rugby:
Pour yourself a rose
Not going to be there for 25 Lions and beyond
Surplus to requirements
I think Eddie has been very clear about that
@MiketheSnow said in Aussie Rugby:
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby:
Pour yourself a rose
Not going to be there for 25 Lions and beyond
Surplus to requirements
I think Eddie has been very clear about that
Yeah I think the plan to run a cleanout was fairly well covered but his point about injuries in camp already is a good one.
If something isn't better by next year, the Lions tour will be equally disastrous in 2025.
Will there be a game of much substance left? He can't affect what the provinces are doing and neither can McLennan in terms of recruitment. We're only just starting to get the back offices aligned across the provinces, and I mean just-agreeing-to-do-it stage.
It'll take time to turn the ship around, and a dismal RWC showing won't help that.
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Is there a difference between the Australian Schoolboys and Australian U18s? The latter is meant to be playing NZ Schools also on Sep 28.
@Bovidae said in Aussie Rugby:
Is there a difference between the Australian Schoolboys and Australian U18s? The latter is meant to be playing NZ Schools also on Sep 28.
It seems the answer is yes. They are two different teams. The Australian Schoolboys team plays Tonga, and the Australian Schools & U18s team plays New Zealand.
The Australian Schools & U18s team has now been named:
https://www.rugby.com.au/news/australia-schools-u18s-side-named-for-new-zealand-series-2023919
I don't know what the point of having both these teams is. It seems the players named in the Australian Schools & U18s team have closer links to the Super Rugby franchises, so I assume this is the top age grade squad. Maybe the Australian Schoolboys team is more directly selected from school teams?
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Mitchell is fucking right
Wallaby fans are being sold a steady diet of bullshit in a constant form of ass covering because this has gone very fucking wrong
Early doors it was a crash at the Bledisloe and Eddie being the guy to turn Rennie's close loses in to wins. Remember smash and grab the world cup?
Now it's all about 25 and 27 and development and moving goalposts and foggy KPIs because the only team they've beaten is friggen Georgia.
The fact any Australian fan can sit there and parrot the company line shows how fucked they are.
Any organisation that wants to call itself high performing sacks the coach if they lose to Wales. -
Mitchell is fucking right
Wallaby fans are being sold a steady diet of bullshit in a constant form of ass covering because this has gone very fucking wrong
Early doors it was a crash at the Bledisloe and Eddie being the guy to turn Rennie's close loses in to wins. Remember smash and grab the world cup?
Now it's all about 25 and 27 and development and moving goalposts and foggy KPIs because the only team they've beaten is friggen Georgia.
The fact any Australian fan can sit there and parrot the company line shows how fucked they are.
Any organisation that wants to call itself high performing sacks the coach if they lose to Wales.@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:
Any organisation that wants to call itself high performing sacks the coach if they lose to Wales.
I'm pretty sure I mentioned that RA is now less about rugby and more about being a stack of corporate fluffybunnies.
The guy in charge of Community Rugby at RA? Never been involved in the game prior to that appointment.
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@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:
Any organisation that wants to call itself high performing sacks the coach if they lose to Wales.
I'm pretty sure I mentioned that RA is now less about rugby and more about being a stack of corporate fluffybunnies.
The guy in charge of Community Rugby at RA? Never been involved in the game prior to that appointment.
@NTA I really beginning to fear for Aus rugby, it seems to be getting worse rather than better, You and @mariner4life would be probably asking why it's taken me this long. I used to get driven up the wall when I was involved when over there, the game in Qld (and I only knew that area as that's where I was involved) just seemd hell bent on circling wagons on what they had as clubs, and f*** the subbie type clubs. My best mate has just packed in his membership etc, after 25 odd years, and says the frustration is just too much for him to enjoy the game. He still loves rugby as a game, but couldn't believe it when he didn't go to one super game or test match, there used to be a bunch of us that went to games all over , and while all still watch rugby, just seem they all lost that real desire for Aus rugby. And when I ask why, they keep saying things like you mention.
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@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:
Any organisation that wants to call itself high performing sacks the coach if they lose to Wales.
I'm pretty sure I mentioned that RA is now less about rugby and more about being a stack of corporate fluffybunnies.
The guy in charge of Community Rugby at RA? Never been involved in the game prior to that appointment.
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby:
@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:
Any organisation that wants to call itself high performing sacks the coach if they lose to Wales.
I'm pretty sure I mentioned that RA is now less about rugby and more about being a stack of corporate fluffybunnies.
The guy in charge of Community Rugby at RA? Never been involved in the game prior to that appointment.
Wait, when did you guys have your governance review or did you arrive there organically?
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@NTA said in Aussie Rugby:
Pour yourself a rose
Not going to be there for 25 Lions and beyond
Surplus to requirements
I think Eddie has been very clear about that
@MiketheSnow said in Aussie Rugby:
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby:
Pour yourself a rose
Not going to be there for 25 Lions and beyond
Surplus to requirements
I think Eddie has been very clear about that
But honestly, that’s so fucking stupid (from him, not you).
This Wallabies side had the easiest path to a Semi Final of a RWC than any side in the history of the fucking tournament.
Beat Wales, Fiji and Argentina and you’re on the big stage in a SF - who the fuck doesn’t grab that opportunity with both sweaty mitts and focus on this tournament right here, right now??!
Who cares about the Lions in 25 yet? Worry about that from 8 weeks time. Since when was a RWC considered a training ground to blood young guys for a fucking Lions tour in 18months!!!
The contempt this arsehole has shown to Australian media and fans alike is extraordinary. After everything Hooper gave to this team, imagine the poor bastard watching them get walked over by Fiji at every breakdown.
Unbelievable
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@MiketheSnow said in Aussie Rugby:
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby:
Pour yourself a rose
Not going to be there for 25 Lions and beyond
Surplus to requirements
I think Eddie has been very clear about that
But honestly, that’s so fucking stupid (from him, not you).
This Wallabies side had the easiest path to a Semi Final of a RWC than any side in the history of the fucking tournament.
Beat Wales, Fiji and Argentina and you’re on the big stage in a SF - who the fuck doesn’t grab that opportunity with both sweaty mitts and focus on this tournament right here, right now??!
Who cares about the Lions in 25 yet? Worry about that from 8 weeks time. Since when was a RWC considered a training ground to blood young guys for a fucking Lions tour in 18months!!!
The contempt this arsehole has shown to Australian media and fans alike is extraordinary. After everything Hooper gave to this team, imagine the poor bastard watching them get walked over by Fiji at every breakdown.
Unbelievable
@voodoo said in Aussie Rugby:
@MiketheSnow said in Aussie Rugby:
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby:
Pour yourself a rose
Not going to be there for 25 Lions and beyond
Surplus to requirements
I think Eddie has been very clear about that
But honestly, that’s so fucking stupid (from him, not you).
This Wallabies side had the easiest path to a Semi Final of a RWC than any side in the history of the fucking tournament.
Beat Wales, Fiji and Argentina and you’re on the big stage in a SF - who the fuck doesn’t grab that opportunity with both sweaty mitts and focus on this tournament right here, right now??!
Who cares about the Lions in 25 yet? Worry about that from 8 weeks time. Since when was a RWC considered a training ground to blood young guys for a fucking Lions tour in 18months!!!
Keep in mind how the story has changed: Originally it was a "smash and grab" for the RWC. That was the focus, that was the reason they got rid of Rennie before the RWC. Now with the benefit of a single solitary win against the might of Georgia, the tune has changed to young side building for the future.
The irony is how many of this current squad are likely to stick around in this clearly toxic environment? They'll fuck off OS at the first available opportunity.
