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RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy

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  • M Machpants

    @antipodean said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    @Machpants said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    @mariner4life said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    If we lost to Italy to go out at the Group stage then quite frankly the outrage in NZ should make '99 look like a disgruntled letter to the editor.

    Don't spit on racehorses though, that's not cool

    It won't though, cos none of us will be surprised

    You do realise we're only playing Italy?

    Yup, I remember saying that about Argentina, who had been in Covid lock down for a year with no rugby. No chance...

    ...until Foster

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    @Machpants yeah if they beat us, dollars to donuts they won't play the game of their lives. It'll just be a case of the ABs having another implosion.

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    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

      @Chris-B I know some would see it as a fitting end to his controversial coaching career in NZ, and we are often told players dont read these types of articles/stories, but surely they are acutely aware of the decreasing lack of faith in them? Surely this would usually be a motivator?

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      @taniwharugby They shouldn't be lacking for motivation.

      It's mostly the gameplan and our capacity to execute it that concerns me.

      But,...we surely haven't fallen so far as to lose to Italy. It's a bit too panicky to be seriously concerned about that.

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      • M Machpants

        @antipodean said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

        @Machpants said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

        @mariner4life said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

        If we lost to Italy to go out at the Group stage then quite frankly the outrage in NZ should make '99 look like a disgruntled letter to the editor.

        Don't spit on racehorses though, that's not cool

        It won't though, cos none of us will be surprised

        You do realise we're only playing Italy?

        Yup, I remember saying that about Argentina, who had been in Covid lock down for a year with no rugby. No chance...

        ...until Foster

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        @Machpants said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

        @antipodean said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

        @Machpants said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

        @mariner4life said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

        If we lost to Italy to go out at the Group stage then quite frankly the outrage in NZ should make '99 look like a disgruntled letter to the editor.

        Don't spit on racehorses though, that's not cool

        It won't though, cos none of us will be surprised

        You do realise we're only playing Italy?

        Yup, I remember saying that about Argentina, who had been in Covid lock down for a year with no rugby. No chance...

        ...until Foster

        But Argentina had been competitive occasionally. The closest Italy have ever come was Stuart Dickinson showing the world he was blind.

        You have FDS.

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        • BonesB Bones

          @Machpants yeah if they beat us, dollars to donuts they won't play the game of their lives. It'll just be a case of the ABs having another implosion.

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          @Bones said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

          @Machpants yeah if they beat us, dollars to donuts they won't play the game of their lives. It'll just be a case of the ABs having another implosion.

          Fuck sake, we give a 14 penalties and a red card versus fucking Namibia. It is totally possible for Foster's Fuckwits to further fuck up what was a fantastic legacy

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          • Chris B.C Chris B.

            @taniwharugby They shouldn't be lacking for motivation.

            It's mostly the gameplan and our capacity to execute it that concerns me.

            But,...we surely haven't fallen so far as to lose to Italy. It's a bit too panicky to be seriously concerned about that.

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            Bones
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            @Chris-B said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

            But,...we surely haven't fallen so far as to lose to Italy. It's a bit too panicky to be seriously concerned about that.

            Oh to be innocent again.

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              Gone for the 45+ drubbing

              Uruguay showed how to smash Italy yesterday

              Unfortunately it was only for 10 mins

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                Really can't wait to get my hopes up based on this one!

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                • TimT Tim

                  Really can't wait to get my hopes up based on this one!

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                  @Tim Mounga, Taylor and Vaai will look a million bucks.

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                  • BonesB Bones

                    @Tim Mounga, Taylor and Vaai will look a million bucks.

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                    @Bones Looking forward to the "Jase" Ryan press conference!

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                      I’m nervous about this game. Until three years ago I’d never believe that the All Blacks could lose a World Cup game against Italy, but the Foster era has been special but not in a good way.

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                      • Chris B.C Chris B.

                        @mariner4life said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                        @Machpants said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                        @mariner4life said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                        If we lost to Italy to go out at the Group stage then quite frankly the outrage in NZ should make '99 look like a disgruntled letter to the editor.

                        Don't spit on racehorses though, that's not cool

                        It won't though, cos none of us will be surprised

                        i fuckin would be! It's fucking Italy!

                        I would want serious recriminations! Sacked assistants. Players looking at whether they have a job next year. I want blood dammit

                        Fozzie would do well to book himself on a continuous series of Contiki tours around Europe. After about five years the clamour might have died down enough that he could come home heavily disguised.

                        Would have to be the most disgraceful defeat - by a decent margin.

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                        @Chris-B said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                        @mariner4life said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                        @Machpants said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                        @mariner4life said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                        If we lost to Italy to go out at the Group stage then quite frankly the outrage in NZ should make '99 look like a disgruntled letter to the editor.

                        Don't spit on racehorses though, that's not cool

                        It won't though, cos none of us will be surprised

                        i fuckin would be! It's fucking Italy!

                        I would want serious recriminations! Sacked assistants. Players looking at whether they have a job next year. I want blood dammit

                        Fozzie would do well to book himself on a continuous series of Contiki tours around Europe. After about five years the clamour might have died down enough that he could come home heavily disguised.

                        Would have to be the most disgraceful defeat - by a decent margin.

                        I’m not sure which disguise would work for Foster? Mr Creosote?

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                          I would want serious recriminations! Sacked assistants. Players looking at whether they have a job next year. I want blood dammit

                          Um the game hasn't started yet, has it?

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                          • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                            I would want serious recriminations! Sacked assistants. Players looking at whether they have a job next year. I want blood dammit

                            Um the game hasn't started yet, has it?

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                            Machpants
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                            @nostrildamus said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                            I would want serious recriminations! Sacked assistants. Players looking at whether they have a job next year. I want blood dammit

                            Um the game hasn't started yet, has it?

                            He's just warming up

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                            • Chris B.C Chris B.

                              @mariner4life said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                              @Machpants said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                              @mariner4life said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                              If we lost to Italy to go out at the Group stage then quite frankly the outrage in NZ should make '99 look like a disgruntled letter to the editor.

                              Don't spit on racehorses though, that's not cool

                              It won't though, cos none of us will be surprised

                              i fuckin would be! It's fucking Italy!

                              I would want serious recriminations! Sacked assistants. Players looking at whether they have a job next year. I want blood dammit

                              Fozzie would do well to book himself on a continuous series of Contiki tours around Europe. After about five years the clamour might have died down enough that he could come home heavily disguised.

                              Would have to be the most disgraceful defeat - by a decent margin.

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                              @Chris-B said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                              @mariner4life said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                              @Machpants said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                              @mariner4life said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                              If we lost to Italy to go out at the Group stage then quite frankly the outrage in NZ should make '99 look like a disgruntled letter to the editor.

                              Don't spit on racehorses though, that's not cool

                              It won't though, cos none of us will be surprised

                              i fuckin would be! It's fucking Italy!

                              I would want serious recriminations! Sacked assistants. Players looking at whether they have a job next year. I want blood dammit

                              Fozzie would do well to book himself on a continuous series of Contiki tours around Europe. After about five years the clamour might have died down enough that he could come home heavily disguised.

                              Would have to be the most disgraceful defeat - by a decent margin.

                              Why travel around Europe when he could stay rent free in a giant mansion in Como that I’m sure the Italian government will gift him….

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                              • sparkyS sparky

                                @Chris-B said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                                @mariner4life said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                                @Machpants said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                                @mariner4life said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                                If we lost to Italy to go out at the Group stage then quite frankly the outrage in NZ should make '99 look like a disgruntled letter to the editor.

                                Don't spit on racehorses though, that's not cool

                                It won't though, cos none of us will be surprised

                                i fuckin would be! It's fucking Italy!

                                I would want serious recriminations! Sacked assistants. Players looking at whether they have a job next year. I want blood dammit

                                Fozzie would do well to book himself on a continuous series of Contiki tours around Europe. After about five years the clamour might have died down enough that he could come home heavily disguised.

                                Would have to be the most disgraceful defeat - by a decent margin.

                                I’m not sure which disguise would work for Foster? Mr Creosote?

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                                @sparky said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                                @Chris-B said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                                @mariner4life said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                                @Machpants said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                                @mariner4life said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                                If we lost to Italy to go out at the Group stage then quite frankly the outrage in NZ should make '99 look like a disgruntled letter to the editor.

                                Don't spit on racehorses though, that's not cool

                                It won't though, cos none of us will be surprised

                                i fuckin would be! It's fucking Italy!

                                I would want serious recriminations! Sacked assistants. Players looking at whether they have a job next year. I want blood dammit

                                Fozzie would do well to book himself on a continuous series of Contiki tours around Europe. After about five years the clamour might have died down enough that he could come home heavily disguised.

                                Would have to be the most disgraceful defeat - by a decent margin.

                                I’m not sure which disguise would work for Foster? Mr Creosote?

                                The object of a disguise is to change your appearance.

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                                • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                  Not to put panic in the ranks, but we need to beat these Italians convincingly - no bonus points given and here's why.

                                  France is going to thump Namibia and move to 13 points.

                                  If we have a close win over Italy - where they get a losing bonus point - they move to 11 and we move to 9.

                                  Even when we thump Uruguay we only get to 14 points.

                                  An open running game between France and Italy, where both teams score four tries and France conspire to lose and boom - both those teams go to 15 points. And as long as Italy gets to 15 points, France only needs 14, so they only need to score four tries, not even stay close.

                                  Particularly, if they have some preference to come second, we may be in trouble.

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                                  @Chris-B said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                                  Not to put panic in the ranks, but we need to beat these Italians convincingly - no bonus points given and here's why.

                                  Right now, half our team are probably thinking a win is good enough and will realize after the game because - " I don't pay to much attention to the table and stuff like that, I'm just here to play footy!"

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                                    pakman
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                                    #32

                                    This is about prepping for Ireland.

                                    Assuming everyone except De Groot available then:

                                    Ofa/Taylor/Lomax/BBBR/Big Sam/Cane/Scooter/Savea/Nuggie/Richie/Jordie/Rieko/Clarke/Jordan/Beaudie

                                    Bench:

                                    Tamaiti/Sami/Nepo/Frizell/Ethan (B)/Roigard/DMac/ALB

                                    Want to give Caleb a crack at 11. Last bench spot tricky, because our midfield isn't that interchangeable. Quite like the idea of Telea as a super sub.

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                                      Once Frizell has some miles under belt he can start against Uruguay. Which will mean a toss up at LH lock.

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                                      • P pakman

                                        This is about prepping for Ireland.

                                        Assuming everyone except De Groot available then:

                                        Ofa/Taylor/Lomax/BBBR/Big Sam/Cane/Scooter/Savea/Nuggie/Richie/Jordie/Rieko/Clarke/Jordan/Beaudie

                                        Bench:

                                        Tamaiti/Sami/Nepo/Frizell/Ethan (B)/Roigard/DMac/ALB

                                        Want to give Caleb a crack at 11. Last bench spot tricky, because our midfield isn't that interchangeable. Quite like the idea of Telea as a super sub.

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                                        @pakman How is Clarke deserving at all over Telea? He isn't even deserving over Leicester.

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                                        • P pakman

                                          This is about prepping for Ireland.

                                          Assuming everyone except De Groot available then:

                                          Ofa/Taylor/Lomax/BBBR/Big Sam/Cane/Scooter/Savea/Nuggie/Richie/Jordie/Rieko/Clarke/Jordan/Beaudie

                                          Bench:

                                          Tamaiti/Sami/Nepo/Frizell/Ethan (B)/Roigard/DMac/ALB

                                          Want to give Caleb a crack at 11. Last bench spot tricky, because our midfield isn't that interchangeable. Quite like the idea of Telea as a super sub.

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                                          @pakman Your team but Telea at 11 and Big Leicester on the bench.

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