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[canefan]

@mariner4life said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

two weeks in and i already hate this season

Cheer up, the 49ers won

[KiwiMurph]

@mariner4life said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

two weeks in and i already hate this season

You were right to be sceptical of Wilson & Payton combo.

Good news is it's supposedly a stacked QB class in this upcoming Draft.

[Cyclops]

Chubb done for the season with a brutal knee injury.

Shame, he was probably the best rusher in the league. The Browns really can't have nice things.

[mariner4life]

@Cyclops said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

The Browns really can't have nice things.

Bears. Browns. Jets. It's always the same poor sides.

[nzzp]

@Cyclops said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

Chubb done for the season with a brutal knee injury.

Shame, he was probably the best rusher in the league. The Browns really can't have nice things.

thank god they didn't show it.

They showed it on the big screen, and you could hear the crowd 'oooh'ing. It was brutal. I don't want that image in my head.

Other than that (poor Chubb), fun season! NFL is great entertainment at the moment, I'm really enjoying Redzone

[mariner4life]

So, yeah, can the NFL season just finish already?

[mariner4life]

seriously, that stats out of that debacle are mind blowing

70 points
726 yards of offense (350 rushing 376 passing)
30 1st downs
10 touch downs
6 of 6 in the redzone

No sacks. 1 punt

Payton a disaster so far, Vance Joseph as DC even more so. We can't even blame Russ, he's doing okay.

[KiwiMurph]

@mariner4life Sean Payton is following the Eddie Jones path so far. All talk.

[bayimports]

Did Denver just have 70 put on them? wow

[mariner4life]

fuck off

[mooshld]

The saddest part is that Miami could have gotten the record with a field goal and opted not to to save Denver the shame.

Which in a way is even more embarrassing

Like the mercy rule is under 9s soccer.

[mariner4life]

you too

[sparky]

First NFL London game of 2023 was a bit of a snore and lots of empty seats at Wembley too.

[mariner4life]

After "Quarterbacks" it was supposed to be her turn!

[mariner4life]

Basically a quarter of the way through the season, and it feels like there are not many good teams.

The Niners are fucking flying, and will never haver a better chance than this year. CMC is ridiculous. They are putting up 30 points a week, the defense is still excellent.
The Eagles are the only other unbeaten side, but haven't been anywhere near as convincing.
Below them are a bunch of good but not great 3-1 teams.
And like a quarter of the Conference straight up stink

On the other side the Chiefs are 3-1 but aren't exactly on fire. Mahomes is Mahomes but their receiver class is pretty average. The Ravens and Bills are a scratchy 3-1 as well, and it drops away to some pretty ordinary sides after that
The Bengals are 1-3 and looking fucking terrible. And again, a good 25-30% of the teams in the Conference stink.

We seem to be at a tipping point. QB play was everything, offence was the best form of defense, and it was all about scoring. Coaches worked that out, and now defenses have caught up. Corners get better every year, and suddenly down field is not as open. And D-lines have got better and better, meaning it's not just pressure from elite edge rushers, pressure is coming from everywhere. And the QBs are paying the price.

Daniel Jones is in the gun for it at the moment. His o-line is wet paper bag weak, he has 2-4 guys in his face every single play. And because he is not Brady or Mahomes, he gets sacked. A lot. Or fumbles. Now, some of that is absolutely on him, he's got a deer-in-the-headlights look on his face and he's freezing. But shit, when you are getting rushed over and over and over, the fuck is he supposed to do? I watched yesterday, and he's looking downfield and nothing is open, then he's got to get rid of it because the protection has collapsed.
But Giants fans are basically saying he needs to get fired. For who? Who exactly is going to do a better job?

All these QBs that got paid this offseason might be thanking their lucky stars, because if defense and the run game come back, economics might change again.

[barbarian]

Yeah some of the vision of Jones is staggering, his O-line may as well not be there. Fields in Chicago is the same.

Whereas you watch Lamar and he could cook dinner behind his line. Same with Purdy.

Be interesting to see which teams look to pull the pin and start tanking for the good QB class in the next draft. Could see the Raiders doing it, or Minnesota, or Tennessee.

Surprised and happy to see the Rams doing well, Stafford is a baller. And liking the look of CJ Stroud in Houston. Arizona hanging in there as well. There are no out and out terrible teams, just a boatload of mediocre ones.

[canefan]

@barbarian Seattle too. The NFC West is strong again

[nzzp]

@barbarian said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

Be interesting to see which teams look to pull the pin and start tanking for the good QB class in the next draft

Bears are there. And Broncos. They are stinking up the joint.

Cardinals and Dobbs are the big surprise for me- they looked to be a contendor for first pick, but are really playing some hard football.

There's some damn good fun games to watch at the moment. I'm really enjoying it

[mariner4life]

@nzzp said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

Broncos

I'm not so sure. We suck, we're not tanking. And QB play is absolutely not the problem. Our defense straight up fucking stinks.
Consider, we lost to the Raiders by a point, scored 16
Then we lost to Washington by 2, but scored 33
Then we lost to Miami by 50, but scored 20
This week we won against Chicago by 3, and scored 31

For is a respectable 100, against is a far less acceptable 150
(league-wide that's 10th for scoring, last for defense)

I can't see where we start tanking for a QB. I think we gave away all our picks anyway.

[nzzp]

@mariner4life fair.

Not tanking, but getting 70 dropped on you, followed by letting the goddamn Bears score 28 in two quarters means it's going to be a long season.