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    • CatograndeC Catogrande

      @taniwharugby

      Every now and then, one of the Seppos comes out with the “we should be paid” thing. Two issues here; firstly you don’t HAVE to play, just decline. Secondly, just how much fucking money do you want?

      You know what, just fuck off.

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      @Catogrande said in Golf:

      @taniwharugby

      Every now and then, one of the Seppos comes out with the “we should be paid” thing. Two issues here; firstly you don’t HAVE to play, just decline. Secondly, just how much fucking money do you want?

      You know what, just fuck off.

      I notice some of the US players are not wearing caps on the final day. Is this some form of protest, or do they just enjoy playing with the sun in their eyes?

      On the subject of pay to play, I guess the counter argument for not getting paid, would be that they should get paid to compete in a very lucrative TV event, the same way as football players or tennis players get paid to play in the WC or Davis Cup (assuming they get paid)

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        The US made it interesting on singles day. But in the end they gave up far too much ground on the opening day, most of the team played poorly. Interestingly, one of the commentators said many of the Americans had not played competitively in four weeks or more, and questioned how seriously they were taking the Ryder Cup

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          Europe win. Absolute scenes. Clearly it’s an emotional moment for this guy.

          https://twitter.com/thefootbailhub/status/1708503003198533967

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          • canefanC canefan

            @Catogrande said in Golf:

            @taniwharugby

            Every now and then, one of the Seppos comes out with the “we should be paid” thing. Two issues here; firstly you don’t HAVE to play, just decline. Secondly, just how much fucking money do you want?

            You know what, just fuck off.

            I notice some of the US players are not wearing caps on the final day. Is this some form of protest, or do they just enjoy playing with the sun in their eyes?

            On the subject of pay to play, I guess the counter argument for not getting paid, would be that they should get paid to compete in a very lucrative TV event, the same way as football players or tennis players get paid to play in the WC or Davis Cup (assuming they get paid)

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            @canefan

            Re the paying thing, I can understand it to an extent but then you need to factor in where all that TV cash goes. After that there is still the fact that it is an invitational event to play in a team environment in what is an individual sport. You can say “no thanks”. Interestingly thee is a pay to play thing for the Presidents Cup, but who cares about that?

            Having said all that and taking into account the LIV issue and his that has shaken up the status quo, I’d say it’s only a matter of time before they’re paid. My guess is that as and when that happens, general interest in the Ryder Cup will wane.

            Let’s us also remember that none of these guys are worrying about paying their mortgage at the end of the month.

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              Awesome few days of golf. The atmosphere is just something else!

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              • CatograndeC Catogrande

                @canefan

                Re the paying thing, I can understand it to an extent but then you need to factor in where all that TV cash goes. After that there is still the fact that it is an invitational event to play in a team environment in what is an individual sport. You can say “no thanks”. Interestingly thee is a pay to play thing for the Presidents Cup, but who cares about that?

                Having said all that and taking into account the LIV issue and his that has shaken up the status quo, I’d say it’s only a matter of time before they’re paid. My guess is that as and when that happens, general interest in the Ryder Cup will wane.

                Let’s us also remember that none of these guys are worrying about paying their mortgage at the end of the month.

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                @Catogrande I don’t know, I didn’t know they weren’t paid to play until this year, and as somewhat uncomfortable as millionaires not being paid might sound, I think he’s right. Lots of people make a killing from this event, why should the players do it for free?

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                • DodgeD Dodge

                  @Catogrande I don’t know, I didn’t know they weren’t paid to play until this year, and as somewhat uncomfortable as millionaires not being paid might sound, I think he’s right. Lots of people make a killing from this event, why should the players do it for free?

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                  @Dodge said in Golf:

                  @Catogrande I don’t know, I didn’t know they weren’t paid to play until this year, and as somewhat uncomfortable as millionaires not being paid might sound, I think he’s right. Lots of people make a killing from this event, why should the players do it for free?

                  I agree. I don't think the fact they earn big money should be a way to justify not paying them, at least to cover costs. Unless the RC is the only invitational team event where individual pros pay for nix. A quick google search suggests Davis Cup players get paid, although at a much lower rate than the players could earn from other sources

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                  • canefanC canefan

                    @Dodge said in Golf:

                    @Catogrande I don’t know, I didn’t know they weren’t paid to play until this year, and as somewhat uncomfortable as millionaires not being paid might sound, I think he’s right. Lots of people make a killing from this event, why should the players do it for free?

                    I agree. I don't think the fact they earn big money should be a way to justify not paying them, at least to cover costs. Unless the RC is the only invitational team event where individual pros pay for nix. A quick google search suggests Davis Cup players get paid, although at a much lower rate than the players could earn from other sources

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                    @canefan I assume it was originally an amateur competition, that has evolved into picking the best available (although Dechamblowhard would dispute this) which is all pro players.

                    I couldnt care less if they are paid or not, but I expect given the profile and coverage, someone is making some good coin out of this, so no reason why the players shouldnt get their piece of gold.

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                      Google tells me each US player gets assigned $200K, 100K of which goes to a charity of their choice and the other 100K goes towards PGA nominated charities.

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                      • canefanC canefan

                        US mounting a comeback in the afternoon matches. Comfortably up in two matches, down 1 in each of the other two with plenty of holes to play. If they want to give themselves any chance of getting close enough to compete tomorrow I think they have to win all 4 matches. Spieth has been ice cold in all his matches so far, and he's continued to be a burden to Thomas. If they had an alternative option I think the US should have played them

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                        @canefan said in Golf:

                        US mounting a comeback in the afternoon matches. Comfortably up in two matches, down 1 in each of the other two with plenty of holes to play. If they want to give themselves any chance of getting close enough to compete tomorrow I think they have to win all 4 matches. Spieth has been ice cold in all his matches so far, and he's continued to be a burden to Thomas. If they had an alternative option I think the US should have played them

                        You mean DJ or Deschambeau?

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                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                          @Dodge apparently there are some issues in the team with Patrick Cantalay leading a protest about not being paid...slowest fluffybunny in the game will no doubt get his point across, eventually.

                          https://www.australiangolfdigest.com.au/ryder-cup-2023-patrick-cantlay-no-hat-european-fans/?fbclid=IwAR0ATNbHnnrBdNAxvv64rLkynaNloHqu4gP_274J8mfh-Y2EXgvxf0yK6gc

                          Rory pissed about something

                          https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cx0wFnfAd-V/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet

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                          @taniwharugby said in Golf:

                          @Dodge apparently there are some issues in the team with Patrick Cantalay leading a protest about not being paid...slowest fluffybunny in the game will no doubt get his point across, eventually.

                          https://www.australiangolfdigest.com.au/ryder-cup-2023-patrick-cantlay-no-hat-european-fans/?fbclid=IwAR0ATNbHnnrBdNAxvv64rLkynaNloHqu4gP_274J8mfh-Y2EXgvxf0yK6gc

                          Rory pissed about something

                          https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cx0wFnfAd-V/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet

                          Rory is pissed about a lot of things. Getting played by Monahan and not getting that Saudi money. Not a big fan of his whining and virtue signaling but that caddie should not have been anywhere near his line. A nine iron to the shins might have helped him realize his position.

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                            I like Rory less and less as time goes on. He’s a shit spokesman for the PGA. Just comes across as a fucking whiney prick.

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                            • broughieB broughie

                              @canefan said in Golf:

                              US mounting a comeback in the afternoon matches. Comfortably up in two matches, down 1 in each of the other two with plenty of holes to play. If they want to give themselves any chance of getting close enough to compete tomorrow I think they have to win all 4 matches. Spieth has been ice cold in all his matches so far, and he's continued to be a burden to Thomas. If they had an alternative option I think the US should have played them

                              You mean DJ or Deschambeau?

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                              @broughie said in Golf:

                              @canefan said in Golf:

                              US mounting a comeback in the afternoon matches. Comfortably up in two matches, down 1 in each of the other two with plenty of holes to play. If they want to give themselves any chance of getting close enough to compete tomorrow I think they have to win all 4 matches. Spieth has been ice cold in all his matches so far, and he's continued to be a burden to Thomas. If they had an alternative option I think the US should have played them

                              You mean DJ or Deschambeau?

                              No. Within the actual squad. But both those guys should have been there if the US were serious about winning

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                              • HoorooH Hooroo

                                I like Rory less and less as time goes on. He’s a shit spokesman for the PGA. Just comes across as a fucking whiney prick.

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                                @Hooroo said in Golf:

                                I like Rory less and less as time goes on. He’s a shit spokesman for the PGA. Just comes across as a fucking whiney prick.

                                Well. I mean. He's Irish

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                                • DodgeD Dodge

                                  @Catogrande I don’t know, I didn’t know they weren’t paid to play until this year, and as somewhat uncomfortable as millionaires not being paid might sound, I think he’s right. Lots of people make a killing from this event, why should the players do it for free?

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                                  @Dodge said in Golf:

                                  @Catogrande I don’t know, I didn’t know they weren’t paid to play until this year, and as somewhat uncomfortable as millionaires not being paid might sound, I think he’s right. Lots of people make a killing from this event, why should the players do it for free?

                                  I don’t necessarily think that the players should do it for free, but at present it is the purest contest in top level golf and players doing it for the team ethic is, I feel, a significant part of that. Moreover, most players are very happy to play for free and in fact seem to enjoy the completely different environment this brings. If that changes and the RC no longer draws the top players, or ceases to be a competitive event, or even that payment becomes an issue for the majority, then maybe changes would need to be made.

                                  Right now it is just the odd person with a gripe about not being paid for something that he can easily just decline.

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                                  • CatograndeC Catogrande

                                    @Dodge said in Golf:

                                    @Catogrande I don’t know, I didn’t know they weren’t paid to play until this year, and as somewhat uncomfortable as millionaires not being paid might sound, I think he’s right. Lots of people make a killing from this event, why should the players do it for free?

                                    I don’t necessarily think that the players should do it for free, but at present it is the purest contest in top level golf and players doing it for the team ethic is, I feel, a significant part of that. Moreover, most players are very happy to play for free and in fact seem to enjoy the completely different environment this brings. If that changes and the RC no longer draws the top players, or ceases to be a competitive event, or even that payment becomes an issue for the majority, then maybe changes would need to be made.

                                    Right now it is just the odd person with a gripe about not being paid for something that he can easily just decline.

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                                    @Catogrande said in Golf:

                                    @Dodge said in Golf:

                                    @Catogrande I don’t know, I didn’t know they weren’t paid to play until this year, and as somewhat uncomfortable as millionaires not being paid might sound, I think he’s right. Lots of people make a killing from this event, why should the players do it for free?

                                    I don’t necessarily think that the players should do it for free, but at present it is the purest contest in top level golf and players doing it for the team ethic is, I feel, a significant part of that. Moreover, most players are very happy to play for free and in fact seem to enjoy the completely different environment this brings. If that changes and the RC no longer draws the top players, or ceases to be a competitive event, or even that payment becomes an issue for the majority, then maybe changes would need to be made.

                                    Right now it is just the odd person with a gripe about not being paid for something that he can easily just decline.

                                    I agree that any pay should be token, as opposed to representing a financial incentive to qualify for

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                                    • canefanC canefan

                                      @Catogrande said in Golf:

                                      @Dodge said in Golf:

                                      @Catogrande I don’t know, I didn’t know they weren’t paid to play until this year, and as somewhat uncomfortable as millionaires not being paid might sound, I think he’s right. Lots of people make a killing from this event, why should the players do it for free?

                                      I don’t necessarily think that the players should do it for free, but at present it is the purest contest in top level golf and players doing it for the team ethic is, I feel, a significant part of that. Moreover, most players are very happy to play for free and in fact seem to enjoy the completely different environment this brings. If that changes and the RC no longer draws the top players, or ceases to be a competitive event, or even that payment becomes an issue for the majority, then maybe changes would need to be made.

                                      Right now it is just the odd person with a gripe about not being paid for something that he can easily just decline.

                                      I agree that any pay should be token, as opposed to representing a financial incentive to qualify for

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                                      @canefan said in Golf:

                                      @Catogrande said in Golf:

                                      @Dodge said in Golf:

                                      @Catogrande I don’t know, I didn’t know they weren’t paid to play until this year, and as somewhat uncomfortable as millionaires not being paid might sound, I think he’s right. Lots of people make a killing from this event, why should the players do it for free?

                                      I don’t necessarily think that the players should do it for free, but at present it is the purest contest in top level golf and players doing it for the team ethic is, I feel, a significant part of that. Moreover, most players are very happy to play for free and in fact seem to enjoy the completely different environment this brings. If that changes and the RC no longer draws the top players, or ceases to be a competitive event, or even that payment becomes an issue for the majority, then maybe changes would need to be made.

                                      Right now it is just the odd person with a gripe about not being paid for something that he can easily just decline.

                                      I agree that any pay should be token, as opposed to representing a financial incentive to qualify for

                                      In a way that’s the position now, the players and their entourages get well looked after and they’re given money to donate to charities. Someone mentioned a figure of £200k?

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                                      • CatograndeC Catogrande

                                        @canefan said in Golf:

                                        @Catogrande said in Golf:

                                        @Dodge said in Golf:

                                        @Catogrande I don’t know, I didn’t know they weren’t paid to play until this year, and as somewhat uncomfortable as millionaires not being paid might sound, I think he’s right. Lots of people make a killing from this event, why should the players do it for free?

                                        I don’t necessarily think that the players should do it for free, but at present it is the purest contest in top level golf and players doing it for the team ethic is, I feel, a significant part of that. Moreover, most players are very happy to play for free and in fact seem to enjoy the completely different environment this brings. If that changes and the RC no longer draws the top players, or ceases to be a competitive event, or even that payment becomes an issue for the majority, then maybe changes would need to be made.

                                        Right now it is just the odd person with a gripe about not being paid for something that he can easily just decline.

                                        I agree that any pay should be token, as opposed to representing a financial incentive to qualify for

                                        In a way that’s the position now, the players and their entourages get well looked after and they’re given money to donate to charities. Someone mentioned a figure of £200k?

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                                        @Catogrande said in Golf:

                                        @canefan said in Golf:

                                        @Catogrande said in Golf:

                                        @Dodge said in Golf:

                                        @Catogrande I don’t know, I didn’t know they weren’t paid to play until this year, and as somewhat uncomfortable as millionaires not being paid might sound, I think he’s right. Lots of people make a killing from this event, why should the players do it for free?

                                        I don’t necessarily think that the players should do it for free, but at present it is the purest contest in top level golf and players doing it for the team ethic is, I feel, a significant part of that. Moreover, most players are very happy to play for free and in fact seem to enjoy the completely different environment this brings. If that changes and the RC no longer draws the top players, or ceases to be a competitive event, or even that payment becomes an issue for the majority, then maybe changes would need to be made.

                                        Right now it is just the odd person with a gripe about not being paid for something that he can easily just decline.

                                        I agree that any pay should be token, as opposed to representing a financial incentive to qualify for

                                        In a way that’s the position now, the players and their entourages get well looked after and they’re given money to donate to charities. Someone mentioned a figure of £200k?

                                        If that's the case, if you don't want to play for whatever reason, just opt out

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