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@Dodge said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:
So removing the hyperbole and accusatory language, this article basically seems to indicate that however many trans swimmers there are, they don’t only want to compete against each other. Fair enough.
So that takes us back to the central question of whether trans athletes should compete in their sex category or their gender category, ie ‘inclusion’ vs fairness. I have yet to hear a single argument about why inclusion at the expense of fairness is the right way to go.
Of course no trans are wanting to compete in their own category because, as we're really only talking about MTF trans, they want to believe, and convince everybody else, that they ARE actually women, they're not about to sign up to category that confirms they're not.
Was a dumb idea from the start.
Simple answer: have women's sport or don't.
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Oh, FFS.
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@MiketheSnow said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:
For 1-legged trannies
That's gold, Mike.
I'm going to pass it on to Mrs M's Uncle and his husband - they are ex BA and loathe this sort of shit
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@MiketheSnow said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:
Oh, FFS.
For 1-legged trannies
Well, he’s definitely non binary then.
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@Catogrande said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:
@MiketheSnow said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:
Oh, FFS.
For 1-legged trannies
Well, he’s definitely non binary then.
Definitely fake. He hasn't got a leg to stand on.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:
Oh, FFS.
You see, I don’t have an issue with this at all. I don’t care what people wear and if people want to wear something ‘non traditional’ it’s no skin off my nose. I do worry about one legged cabin crew though, seems like that would be a really tough job.
People can present however they want, wear whatever they want. I don’t see why anyone gives a shit about that. It’s the point at which we’re told we have to ‘believe’ these people really are the opposite sex and that we all have to accept them into any environment for that destination sex that I start to have an issue.
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But, but, but we've been told biological sex doesn't matter and men and woman are equal,,,
Men gatecrash women in tech conference ‘after lying about gender’
Organisers of Grace Hopper Celebration in Orlando said people lied by claiming to be non-binary in hope of gaining access to recruiters
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Men and women are equal but not the same. An event to encourage more women to work in tech is a good idea. Women basically self exclude from multiple sectors, for a variety of reasons - that exclusion means that tech are taking their recruits from only 50% of the population - that’s a waste of potential talent.
The problem here is that men felt the need to invade that space. The fact they used the concept of non binary as the way to do it highlights the flaws in the concept of self ID. Any system that relies on someone telling you what they qualify for and you’re not allowed to challenge or question is bound to be abused, and this is just one of the examples.
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The gals finally standing up for themselves:
Virginia swimmers unite, speak out after biological male pulls Lia Thomas, tries to join team
Members of the Roanoke College women’s swim team spoke out Thursday about their experience after a transgender student student had requested permission to swim with the women’s team.
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About time
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@Dodge said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:
that exclusion means that tech are taking their recruits from only 50% of the population - that’s a waste of potential talent.
Or maybe a waste of, on average, less talent.
Just maybe we are different and this results in one
sexgender being more suited to one type of work than the other gender. Why not just accept this and accept that, to get the best mix, one gender will dominate certain sectors. -
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@voodoo said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:
I missed this a month ago - simply amazing
https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/sport/gymnastics-australia-to-allow-transgender-individuals-to-choose-uniforms-and-compete-in-events-that-best-suit-their-gender-identity/news-story/2dd2086bc1ad098cec40764f5eae923e?ampWow…..
Are you sure this isn’t one of those beetota articles ?
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Shameful and shambolic
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Hate crimes against transgender people hit record high in England and Wales
Increase of 11% in recorded incidents may be due to comments in media and by politicians, says Home Office report
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Hate crime is defined as ‘any criminal offence which is perceived, by the victim or any other person, to be motivated by hostility or prejudice towards someone based on a personal characteristic.’
With that qualifier I'm not surprised it hit a record high.
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