RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay
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@MiketheSnow said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
More questions than answers
Some tough ones too
NZ could fall into the same trap Scotland and England have fallen into, primarily the side is more balanced and more dangerous without their RWC captain
Well spotted Mike.
I agree, thought we missed Ardie's control last night, not sure they will start Cane from the bench though. I'm just not convinced by our loose forward balance, it's much better with Frizz but the starting 7 is still a conundrum.@Jailbreak7 said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
@MiketheSnow said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
More questions than answers
Some tough ones too
NZ could fall into the same trap Scotland and England have fallen into, primarily the side is more balanced and more dangerous without their RWC captain
Well spotted Mike.
I agree, thought we missed Ardie's control last night, not sure they will start Cane from the bench though. I'm just not convinced by our loose forward balance, it's much better with Frizz but the starting 7 is still a conundrum.Whilst our results have been up and down, we tend to play better or more cohesively with both Scooter and Ardie in our starting lineup.
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@Machpants said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
No way foster will drop cane now
I can't see it either, but that may be his and NZ's undoing
@MiketheSnow said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
@Machpants said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
No way foster will drop cane now
I can't see it either, but that may be his and NZ's undoing
He's not the only one, cane had 7 votes for this match here, and I have no idea why.
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I sort of feel as if many are forgetting how badly Damien MacKenzie shat the bed last time he played a quality opposition.
Like, he didn't just shit the bed, he then pissed the bed, and then chundered before jizzing , snotting, and bleeding into the bed.
That was the worst game I can remember from an All Black back.
We are all used to the Cantab hate here on the fern, but the some of you who are suggesting DmAc replaces Mo'unga are deranged.
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I feel something stirring within. A spark of confidence for the QF. Bench will be key and I think Foster will go for CR, DMac and LF (why else would he put Leicester at 12, for the first time in his life yesterday?)
We’re not going to win a tight match with ALB coming on to change things.
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I sort of feel as if many are forgetting how badly Damien MacKenzie shat the bed last time he played a quality opposition.
Like, he didn't just shit the bed, he then pissed the bed, and then chundered before jizzing , snotting, and bleeding into the bed.
That was the worst game I can remember from an All Black back.
We are all used to the Cantab hate here on the fern, but the some of you who are suggesting DmAc replaces Mo'unga are deranged.
@Canerbry said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
We are all used to the Cantab hate here on the fern, but the some of you who are suggesting DmAc replaces Mo'unga are deranged.
I think the discussion is more about DMac replacing Beauden at 15.
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I sort of feel as if many are forgetting how badly Damien MacKenzie shat the bed last time he played a quality opposition.
Like, he didn't just shit the bed, he then pissed the bed, and then chundered before jizzing , snotting, and bleeding into the bed.
That was the worst game I can remember from an All Black back.
We are all used to the Cantab hate here on the fern, but the some of you who are suggesting DmAc replaces Mo'unga are deranged.
@Canerbry said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
I sort of feel as if many are forgetting how badly Damien MacKenzie shat the bed last time he played a quality opposition.
Like, he didn't just shit the bed, he then pissed the bed, and then chundered before jizzing , snotting, and bleeding into the bed.
That was the worst game I can remember from an All Black back.
We are all used to the Cantab hate here on the fern, but the some of you who are suggesting DmAc replaces Mo'unga are deranged.
What the fuck does DMac get up to after hours ? I’m quite disturbed reading this and not sure I want a guy like this representing the All Blacks.
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I sort of feel as if many are forgetting how badly Damien MacKenzie shat the bed last time he played a quality opposition.
Like, he didn't just shit the bed, he then pissed the bed, and then chundered before jizzing , snotting, and bleeding into the bed.
That was the worst game I can remember from an All Black back.
We are all used to the Cantab hate here on the fern, but the some of you who are suggesting DmAc replaces Mo'unga are deranged.
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I sort of feel as if many are forgetting how badly Damien MacKenzie shat the bed last time he played a quality opposition.
Like, he didn't just shit the bed, he then pissed the bed, and then chundered before jizzing , snotting, and bleeding into the bed.
That was the worst game I can remember from an All Black back.
We are all used to the Cantab hate here on the fern, but the some of you who are suggesting DmAc replaces Mo'unga are deranged.
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I feel something stirring within. A spark of confidence for the QF. Bench will be key and I think Foster will go for CR, DMac and LF (why else would he put Leicester at 12, for the first time in his life yesterday?)
We’re not going to win a tight match with ALB coming on to change things.
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For all that Jacobson got a hard time - I thought he was a bit poor with two turnovers and one penalty conceded - he was also the leading metre maker in the forwards (42) with the second most carries (11), 10 passes (highest in forwards), and a try assist. He had one clean break (equal first for forwards), beat one defender, and had two offloads (equal highest in the team). He made 8 tackles and missed none. Not a bad night's work.
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For all that Jacobson got a hard time - I thought he was a bit poor with two turnovers and one penalty conceded - he was also the leading metre maker in the forwards (42) with the second most carries (11), 10 passes (highest in forwards), and a try assist. He had one clean break (equal first for forwards), beat one defender, and had two offloads (equal highest in the team). He made 8 tackles and missed none. Not a bad night's work.
@gt12 said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
For all that Jacobson got a hard time - I thought he was a bit poor with two turnovers and one penalty conceded - he was also the leading metre maker in the forwards (42) with the second most carries (11), 10 passes (highest in forwards), and a try assist. He had one clean break (equal first for forwards), beat one defender, and had two offloads (equal highest in the team). He made 8 tackles and missed none. Not a bad night's work.
So maybe I just look for the highlights, and note the mistakes ...
Suppose that's why I'm not a professional coach ....
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I sort of feel as if many are forgetting how badly Damien MacKenzie shat the bed last time he played a quality opposition.
Like, he didn't just shit the bed, he then pissed the bed, and then chundered before jizzing , snotting, and bleeding into the bed.
That was the worst game I can remember from an All Black back.
We are all used to the Cantab hate here on the fern, but the some of you who are suggesting DmAc replaces Mo'unga are deranged.
@Canerbry said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
I sort of feel as if many are forgetting how badly Damien MacKenzie shat the bed last time he played a quality opposition.
Like, he didn't just shit the bed, he then pissed the bed, and then chundered before jizzing , snotting, and bleeding into the bed.
That was the worst game I can remember from an All Black back.
We are all used to the Cantab hate here on the fern, but the some of you who are suggesting DmAc replaces Mo'unga are deranged.
Precious Richie is not threatened so don't worry about a Cantab' losing their place.
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I sort of feel as if many are forgetting how badly Damien MacKenzie shat the bed last time he played a quality opposition.
Like, he didn't just shit the bed, he then pissed the bed, and then chundered before jizzing , snotting, and bleeding into the bed.
That was the worst game I can remember from an All Black back.
We are all used to the Cantab hate here on the fern, but the some of you who are suggesting DmAc replaces Mo'unga are deranged.
@Canerbry said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
That was the worst game I can remember from an All Black back.
George Bridge says hold his beer, while he tries not to catch the ball.
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With Dmac and Mo'unga, the dual playmaker system seems to work out differently to Mo'unga and Barrett.
Vs Uruguay
Richie Mo'unga played 79% of the minutes that Dmac played (63/80).
He kicked 5 times, Dmac 6 (83%)
He passed 19 times, Dmac 26 (73%)
He ran 9 times, Dmac 15 (60%)In comparison, Mo'unga actually dominates touches when he and Barrett play together.
Vs Italy
Richie Mo'unga played 80% of the minutes that Barrett played (64/80).
He kicked 7 times, Beauden 6 (116%)
He passed 15 times, Beauden 12 (125%)
He ran 4 times, Beauden 8 (50%)It's a reasonably similar picture for the France game, although they both played the 80 and Barrett dominated the kicking (Mo'unga: 21 passes, 10 runs, 7 kicks vs Barrett: 12 passes, 18 runs, 18 kicks).
I'm not sure what all this means, I'm just bored.
Maybe Barrett just isn't getting involved enough, but I found it interesting that the dual playmaker seemed to be working better when Dmac is on. It might be a better mix as it may allow Mo'unga to be more dangerous and play wider with fewer touches.
For what it is worth, in the Argentina game early in the year, Dmac dominated in comparison to Barrett with 130% more minutes (80 vs 61) but 200% more passes (24 vs 12), and 90% runs. I can't get KFH stats for that game.
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Thought Faingaanuku was pretty average, despite the good running - man he's slow eh. Handling that makes Rieko look like Dupont. Runs a line really well and hard, but doesn't exactly hit a weak shoulder - that's not going to be very effective against quality opposition.
But then again, not like anyone else who could sit on the bench would be noticeably better.
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LF is too slow to be a really good winger, and can't pass well enough to be a good midfielder.
He's probably the best 7 in the squad though.@reprobate said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
LF is too slow to be a really good winger, and can't pass well enough to be a good midfielder.
He's probably the best 7 in the squad though.Kind of my thinking to. Has some good qualities, but he is a bit of a flat-track bully. My thought has always been he would be excellent in league.
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That game kinda put the argument to rest that BB is crowding or taking over from Mo’unga. Dmac was doing pretty much the same thing. It's a game plan not a BB issue.
@BorderJB said in RWC Week 5: All Blacks v Uruguay:
That game kinda put the argument to rest that BB is crowding or taking over from Mo’unga. Dmac was doing pretty much the same thing. It's a game plan not a BB issue.
It seems that it could be the opposite, actually.
They seemed to go quite well when the 15 does more.
It could be that Mo'unga is better when he can get more space and needs another at first receiver, which seems to be what Dmac did a lot.
