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RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland

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  • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby-world-cup-2023/300985239/rugby-world-cup-all-blacks-coach-ian-foster-ramps-up-quarterfinal-pressure-on-ireland
    Foster: “They've got a group of players … this is probably their moment. If they’re ever going to win a World Cup, they’ll probably feel like it’s now, and as a team we’re kinda in the same mode. So it’s pretty exciting.”

    In the same mode??
    So this is the only possible time the ABs can win the RWC or the only possible time in the near future? Or maybe I just don't understand Ian Foster logic.

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    @nostrildamus said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby-world-cup-2023/300985239/rugby-world-cup-all-blacks-coach-ian-foster-ramps-up-quarterfinal-pressure-on-ireland
    Foster: “They've got a group of players … this is probably their moment. If they’re ever going to win a World Cup, they’ll probably feel like it’s now, and as a team we’re kinda in the same mode. So it’s pretty exciting.”

    In the same mode??
    So this is the only possible time the ABs can win the RWC or the only possible time in the near future? Or maybe I just don't understand Ian Foster logic.

    The issue here is your over-analysing a coach's comment in the media. If we take our Fozzy bashing glasses off for a minute, he's basically saying we are in the mode of winning the World Cup.

    Of this squad, most of these players have either never won it or won't be there in 2027, so I don't think that for this team, it is that unreasonable.

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      Foz ramping up the pressure on Ireland. Good.

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        The problem is neither Paps or Cane are great from the bench. Both are better starters.

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          Anyone expecting Paps to start over Cane is absolutely deluded

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            Ireland's defence is incredible.

            8 points conceded vs Boks. nothing conceded vs Scotland until the contest was over.

            I'd have Mo'unga and Beauden practicing drop goals all week.

            Let's George Ford them.

            Keep the scoreboard ticking over.

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            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

              Ireland's defence is incredible.

              8 points conceded vs Boks. nothing conceded vs Scotland until the contest was over.

              I'd have Mo'unga and Beauden practicing drop goals all week.

              Let's George Ford them.

              Keep the scoreboard ticking over.

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              @KiwiMurph said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

              Ireland's defence is incredible.

              8 points conceded vs Boks. nothing conceded vs Scotland until the contest was over.

              I'd have Mo'unga and Beauden practicing drop goals all week.

              Let's George Ford them.

              Keep the scoreboard ticking over.

              it's good, but the Bok numbers are misleading, they left heaps of points out there

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              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                Ireland's defence is incredible.

                8 points conceded vs Boks. nothing conceded vs Scotland until the contest was over.

                I'd have Mo'unga and Beauden practicing drop goals all week.

                Let's George Ford them.

                Keep the scoreboard ticking over.

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                @KiwiMurph said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                Keep the scoreboard ticking over.

                See, it’s with cliches like this that we are destined to win.

                We will only keep the scoreboard ticking over if we play what’s in front of us…

                😎

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                • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                  @KiwiMurph said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                  Keep the scoreboard ticking over.

                  See, it’s with cliches like this that we are destined to win.

                  We will only keep the scoreboard ticking over if we play what’s in front of us…

                  😎

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                  @ACT-Crusader dont want it to be a game of 2 halves, unless Ireland are good in the 1st and we are gooder in the 2nd...

                  Also missed full credit, do they still have ladies in the kitchen?

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                    lets just hope the ladies in the kitchen are good to us this world cup

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                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                      lets just hope the ladies in the kitchen are good to us this world cup

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                      @mariner4life true, probably not been helping since Suzie left the fishcakes on the windowsill over night!

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                      • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                        @taniwharugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                        @nostrildamus who is left from 2015? Retallick, Whitelock, Smith, Taylor, Coles, BB, SB?

                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Rugby_World_Cup_squads#New_Zealand
                        not sure what is currently happening with Moody but good guesses!
                        Cane of course, and JB. I count 9.

                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Rugby_World_Cup_squads#Pool_A
                        Just one.

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                        @nostrildamus said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                        @taniwharugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                        @nostrildamus who is left from 2015? Retallick, Whitelock, Smith, Taylor, Coles, BB, SB?

                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Rugby_World_Cup_squads#New_Zealand
                        not sure what is currently happening with Moody but good guesses!
                        Cane of course, and JB. I count 9.

                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Rugby_World_Cup_squads#Pool_A
                        Just one.

                        No SB or JB in 2015.

                        Just Coles, Taylor, Whitelock, Retallick, Cane, Smith, B. Barrett

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                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                          @ACT-Crusader dont want it to be a game of 2 halves, unless Ireland are good in the 1st and we are gooder in the 2nd...

                          Also missed full credit, do they still have ladies in the kitchen?

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                          @taniwharugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                          @ACT-Crusader dont want it to be a game of 2 halves, unless Ireland are good in the 1st and we are gooder in the 2nd...

                          Also missed full credit, do they still have ladies in the kitchen?

                          Yeah definitely. Yeah nah

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                            Need to play the full 80 minutes, but also important to score first, as well as just before and after half-time

                            I'd also have a good think about winning the collisions and being solid at set-piece

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                            • voodooV voodoo

                              Need to play the full 80 minutes, but also important to score first, as well as just before and after half-time

                              I'd also have a good think about winning the collisions and being solid at set-piece

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                              @voodoo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                              Need to play the full 80 minutes, but also important to score first, as well as just before and after half-time

                              I'd also have a good think about winning the collisions and being solid at set-piece

                              Really we just need no more learnings cos we've learnt them already

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                              • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                @nostrildamus said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                @taniwharugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                @nostrildamus who is left from 2015? Retallick, Whitelock, Smith, Taylor, Coles, BB, SB?

                                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Rugby_World_Cup_squads#New_Zealand
                                not sure what is currently happening with Moody but good guesses!
                                Cane of course, and JB. I count 9.

                                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Rugby_World_Cup_squads#Pool_A
                                Just one.

                                No SB or JB in 2015.

                                Just Coles, Taylor, Whitelock, Retallick, Cane, Smith, B. Barrett

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                                @ACT-Crusader said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                @nostrildamus said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                @taniwharugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                @nostrildamus who is left from 2015? Retallick, Whitelock, Smith, Taylor, Coles, BB, SB?

                                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Rugby_World_Cup_squads#New_Zealand
                                not sure what is currently happening with Moody but good guesses!
                                Cane of course, and JB. I count 9.

                                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Rugby_World_Cup_squads#Pool_A
                                Just one.

                                No SB or JB in 2015.

                                Just Coles, Taylor, Whitelock, Retallick, Cane, Smith, B. Barrett

                                Eh? You're right. I seem to have lost the ability to read. Learnings from the Fern, I guess.

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                                  ABs have had so many "learnings" you'd expect a 30-point victory! I know I harp on but it is the exits from the 22 that are going to be crucial. Last night in the Japan and Argies game, it was on the edge for both teams until a "BB-like shit kick" by Japan led to an Argie try and swung the momentum of the game. I will die a little on the inside when (not if...it is every game these days) this happens in the QF.

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                                  • canefanC canefan

                                    @sparky said in All Blacks 2023:

                                    The most important position in a Rugby team is Tighthead Prop. The second most important position in a Rugby team is backup Tighthead Prop. Losing Tyrell Lomax for a World Cup knockout would be a massive blow for the All Blacks.

                                    Foster calls BS. Winger and reserve winger are the two most important positions

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                                    @canefan said in All Blacks 2023:

                                    @sparky said in All Blacks 2023:

                                    The most important position in a Rugby team is Tighthead Prop. The second most important position in a Rugby team is backup Tighthead Prop. Losing Tyrell Lomax for a World Cup knockout would be a massive blow for the All Blacks.

                                    Foster calls BS. Winger and reserve winger are the two seven most important positions

                                    FIFY

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                                    • O Old Samurai Jack

                                      ABs have had so many "learnings" you'd expect a 30-point victory! I know I harp on but it is the exits from the 22 that are going to be crucial. Last night in the Japan and Argies game, it was on the edge for both teams until a "BB-like shit kick" by Japan led to an Argie try and swung the momentum of the game. I will die a little on the inside when (not if...it is every game these days) this happens in the QF.

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                                      @Old-Samurai-Jack maybe thats the problem, too many learnings and the messages getting confused.

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                                      • voodooV voodoo

                                        Anyone expecting Paps to start over Cane is absolutely deluded

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                                        @voodoo said in All Blacks 2023:

                                        Anyone expecting Paps to start over Cane is absolutely deluded

                                        Leave a certain Blues superfan alone!

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                                        • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                          @voodoo said in All Blacks 2023:

                                          Anyone expecting Paps to start over Cane is absolutely deluded

                                          Leave a certain Blues superfan alone!

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                                          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2023:

                                          @voodoo said in All Blacks 2023:

                                          Anyone expecting Paps to start over Cane is absolutely deluded

                                          Leave a certain Blues superfan alone!

                                          I did say "expects" not "wants" - surely even Tim isn't expecting Foster to make that change!

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