RWC Week 5: Ireland v Scotland
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@Machpants 2007 ABs would like to say hi. 2007 was a massive choke (the nadir that would take them to the promised land in many ways).
Henry’s ABs won 42 from 48 between 2004 to 2007 (87.5% win ratio), won 30 from 33 prior to QF, losing only to a strong SA and competitive Oz away from home. Didn’t lose a game to a NH team at all in that time.
Best France 3-47 in Lyon in 2016, 11-23 in Paris in 2016 and 42-11 in Auckland.
Then imploded in Cardiff.
@stodders said in RWC Week 5: Ireland v Scotland:
@Machpants 2007 ABs would like to say hi.
Won 42 from 48 from 2004 to 2007 (87.5% win ratio), won 30 from 33 prior to QF, losing only to a strong SA and competitive Oz away from home. Didn’t lose a game to a NH team at all in that time.
Totally but we're objectively fucked over by the ref. And still weren't on a 17 match streak
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Hang on, is this a 'we choked more than you choked' competition?
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Hang on, is this a 'we choked more than you choked' competition?
@nostrildamus Absolutely!
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Hang on, is this a 'we choked more than you choked' competition?
@nostrildamus said in RWC Week 5: Ireland v Scotland:
Hang on, is this a 'we choked more than you choked' competition?
Ireland haven't choked
Yet
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@nostrildamus said in RWC Week 5: Ireland v Scotland:
Hang on, is this a 'we choked more than you choked' competition?
Ireland haven't choked
Yet
@Machpants Nope. And there is a mightily good chance that they won't.
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@nostrildamus said in RWC Week 5: Ireland v Scotland:
Hang on, is this a 'we choked more than you choked' competition?
Ireland haven't choked
Yet
@Machpants said in RWC Week 5: Ireland v Scotland:
@nostrildamus said in RWC Week 5: Ireland v Scotland:
Hang on, is this a 'we choked more than you choked' competition?
Ireland haven't choked
Yet
"or Ireland, it would be not winning a quarterfinal again despite having a pretty good team this time round. But then again, they said that in 2007 too. "
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@Machpants said in RWC Week 5: Ireland v Scotland:
@nostrildamus said in RWC Week 5: Ireland v Scotland:
Hang on, is this a 'we choked more than you choked' competition?
Ireland haven't choked
Yet
"or Ireland, it would be not winning a quarterfinal again despite having a pretty good team this time round. But then again, they said that in 2007 too. "
@nostrildamus said in RWC Week 5: Ireland v Scotland:
@Machpants said in RWC Week 5: Ireland v Scotland:
@nostrildamus said in RWC Week 5: Ireland v Scotland:
Hang on, is this a 'we choked more than you choked' competition?
Ireland haven't choked
Yet
"or Ireland, it would be not winning a quarterfinal again despite having a pretty good team this time round. But then again, they said that in 2007 too. "
Precisely. Ireland haven't even won an RWC knock-out match yet. It's their quadrennial nemesis. If they fail again on Saturday, it's just more of the same - hopeless at knockout matches. No one has them as favourites to win the RWC - SA, NZ and Fra have been ahead of them with the bookies.
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@nostrildamus said in RWC Week 5: Ireland v Scotland:
@Machpants said in RWC Week 5: Ireland v Scotland:
@nostrildamus said in RWC Week 5: Ireland v Scotland:
Hang on, is this a 'we choked more than you choked' competition?
Ireland haven't choked
Yet
"or Ireland, it would be not winning a quarterfinal again despite having a pretty good team this time round. But then again, they said that in 2007 too. "
Precisely. Ireland haven't even won an RWC knock-out match yet. It's their quadrennial nemesis. If they fail again on Saturday, it's just more of the same - hopeless at knockout matches. No one has them as favourites to win the RWC - SA, NZ and Fra have been ahead of them with the bookies.
@Derm-McCrum But if they do win, they've never lost a semi or final. Unlike the rest
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@Derm-McCrum But if they do win, they've never lost a semi or final. Unlike the rest
@stodders said in RWC Week 5: Ireland v Scotland:
@Derm-McCrum But if they do win, they've never lost a semi or final. Unlike the rest
Very good. Very true. They haven't.
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@nostrildamus said in RWC Week 5: Ireland v Scotland:
@Machpants said in RWC Week 5: Ireland v Scotland:
@nostrildamus said in RWC Week 5: Ireland v Scotland:
Hang on, is this a 'we choked more than you choked' competition?
Ireland haven't choked
Yet
"or Ireland, it would be not winning a quarterfinal again despite having a pretty good team this time round. But then again, they said that in 2007 too. "
Precisely. Ireland haven't even won an RWC knock-out match yet. It's their quadrennial nemesis. If they fail again on Saturday, it's just more of the same - hopeless at knockout matches. No one has them as favourites to win the RWC - SA, NZ and Fra have been ahead of them with the bookies.
@Derm-McCrum Paddy Power would disagree with you about Ireland being the favourites
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@nostrildamus said in RWC Week 5: Ireland v Scotland:
@Machpants said in RWC Week 5: Ireland v Scotland:
@nostrildamus said in RWC Week 5: Ireland v Scotland:
Hang on, is this a 'we choked more than you choked' competition?
Ireland haven't choked
Yet
"or Ireland, it would be not winning a quarterfinal again despite having a pretty good team this time round. But then again, they said that in 2007 too. "
Precisely. Ireland haven't even won an RWC knock-out match yet. It's their quadrennial nemesis. If they fail again on Saturday, it's just more of the same - hopeless at knockout matches. No one has them as favourites to win the RWC - SA, NZ and Fra have been ahead of them with the bookies.
@Derm-McCrum In fact, pretty much all the bookies are calling you out on the claim that ireland aren't favourites
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@NTA said in RWC Week 5: Ireland v Scotland:
@Machpants said in RWC Week 5: Ireland v Scotland:
now we are so holier than thou that we don't do it.
TBH I don't think that's why you're not as dominant as you were.
- Maintaining that level of dominance is statistically close to impossible
- Your development systems aren't producing quite the level of player you had.
..and 3) other teams are so much better prepared and coached and funded than before?
Would I be sad if NZ beat Ireland? Fuck no.
You've been on the Fern for so long and still find us less insufferable than Irish rugby fans?
@nostrildamus said in RWC Week 5: Ireland v Scotland:
You've been on the Fern for so long and still find us less insufferable than Irish rugby fans?
Are we speaking in context of the entire group?
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@Derm-McCrum In fact, pretty much all the bookies are calling you out on the claim that ireland aren't favourites
@stodders said in RWC Week 5: Ireland v Scotland:
@Derm-McCrum In fact, pretty much all the bookies are calling you out on the claim that ireland aren't favourites
Well that's changed. So joint favourites with France now. Hmmm.
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