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RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland

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    thelemmning70
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    No issue with Barnes. Everyone makes mistakes and sure he would go back and change things if he could... Generally I find him a good ref.

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      As a referee, Barne is very good. I just wish he'd shut up.

      And I absolutely hate his Try Given / Try Awarded bullshit.

      No, the try was scored. Your job isn't to award/give it. It's to point it out.

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      • BovidaeB Bovidae

        Referee: Wayne Barnes (RFU)
        Assistant Referee 1: Matthew Carley (RFU)
        Assistant Referee 2: Christophe Ridley (RFU)
        TMO: Tom Foley (RFU)

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        @Bovidae said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

        Referee: Wayne Barnes (RFU)
        Assistant Referee 1: Matthew Carley (RFU)
        Assistant Referee 2: Christophe Ridley (RFU)
        TMO: Tom Foley (RFU)

        Could be worse.

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          Carley? At least ABs had experience of Barnes against Uruguay. Perhaps it's time for him to right historic RWC quarters wrongs?

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            @Bovidae said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

            Referee: Wayne Barnes (RFU)
            Assistant Referee 1: Matthew Carley (RFU)
            Assistant Referee 2: Christophe Ridley (RFU)
            TMO: Tom Foley (RFU)

            Very happy Jonker isn't the TMO.

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            @Stargazer said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

            @Bovidae said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

            Referee: Wayne Barnes (RFU)
            Assistant Referee 1: Matthew Carley (RFU)
            Assistant Referee 2: Christophe Ridley (RFU)
            TMO: Tom Foley (RFU)

            Very happy Jonker isn't the TMO.

            Do Yaapies pronounce Jo as Wa?

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              Chris
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              Barnes is not a bad choice for us, thankfully no Jonkers or Dickson.
              Carley with the flag hopefully he doesn’t get involved much.

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              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                Referee: Wayne Barnes (RFU)
                Assistant Referee 1: Matthew Carley (RFU)
                Assistant Referee 2: Christophe Ridley (RFU)
                TMO: Tom Foley (RFU)

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                Billy Tell
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                @Bovidae said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                Referee: Wayne Barnes (RFU)
                Assistant Referee 1: Matthew Carley (RFU)
                Assistant Referee 2: Christophe Ridley (RFU)
                TMO: Tom Foley (RFU)

                I thought Barnes was bloody good in the Uruguay game.

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                  So the top refs are Barnes, peyper, BOk and Raynal. The Georgian is nowhere as far as I can see, not even a touch judge. I’m a bit surprised.

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                  • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                    So the top refs are Barnes, peyper, BOk and Raynal. The Georgian is nowhere as far as I can see, not even a touch judge. I’m a bit surprised.

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                    @Billy-Tell who knows they may be holding back Pearce or the Georgian for a semi final.

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                    • Chris B.C Chris B.

                      @mariner4life said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                      @Chris-B said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                      They are, you BoP fucker!

                      as an aside, looking at that BOP team sheet, we're as cheque book as you these days, and thus i care so very little

                      As I've repeatedly made the point - when we won the NPC we were not a chequebook team - Keane and Leon were just excellent selectors and team builders.

                      However, I saw a report in recent times, that we've become relatively wealthy compared to the rest of you fuckwits - who can't organize a piss-up in a brewery - and we're using this wealth to dominate the ABs and direct things toward success.

                      To date, we've just been hindered by the swamp Islanders who keep appointing their fucking coaches.

                      I hope our fabulous players can transcend this fuckery! 🙂

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                      @Chris-B said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                      compared to the rest of you fuckwits - who can't organize a piss-up in a brewery

                      Now if there was one insult directed towards Fern posters that was highly unlikely, my vote would be on this one. Not saying it would be a very civil piss-up, mind.

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                      • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                        So the top refs are Barnes, peyper, BOk and Raynal. The Georgian is nowhere as far as I can see, not even a touch judge. I’m a bit surprised.

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                        @Billy-Tell said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                        So the top refs are Barnes, peyper, BOk and Raynal. The Georgian is nowhere as far as I can see, not even a touch judge. I’m a bit surprised.

                        Me too

                        He's been excellent and is neutral (no skin in the game) going forward

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                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                          @Billy-Tell who knows they may be holding back Pearce or the Georgian for a semi final.

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                          @KiwiMurph said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                          @Billy-Tell who knows they may be holding back Pearce or the Georgian for a semi final.

                          Hope so

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                            game_film
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                            No sign of Angus Gardner either. Interesting

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                              I have friends absolutely gutted that we have Barnes. Grudges or real concern? I’m not unhappy, but thought I’d dig out the list, here it is - make of it what you will

                              https://www.rugbydatabase.co.nz/team/referee.php?teamId=3&refereeId=31

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                              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                looking back to the last time we played Ireland, we are so much better than we were then

                                Fullback: J Barrett was okay, B Barrett is frustrating us all. Lets call it even
                                Wings: Reece/Jordan v Jordan/Telea. This Jordan is better than the 2022 version that was feeling his way back in. Telea is better than Reece. 2023 wins
                                Centre: Ioane/Ioane even
                                2nd 5: Havili v JBarrett. A nothing player against a big lump who will get us on the front foot and can throw a dinky little pass. Huge upgrade for 2023
                                1st 5: BBarrett v Mo'unga. This was the death throws of BB at 10, and while RM is hardly a world beater, he's significantly better than 2022 BB
                                9: Smith/Smith even
                                Loose Forwards. Cane/Savea/A Ioane v Cane/Savea/Frizzell 2023 wins this by virtue of Frizzell's current form and the way he plays making the others, particularly Savea, better.
                                Locks: Retallick/Whitelock v SBarrett/Retallic (assumed) 2023. Retallick wasn't in great form, SBarrett has grown and grown and now plays with the aggression and accuracy we need
                                Props: Bower/Laulala v actually we don't know yet. This could be even though you could argue that Laulala has improved. If Lomax can play then 2023 is ahead
                                Hooker: Taylor/Coles v Taylor/ST I give this to 2023 just, as Taylor is playing better, but ST has dropped away a little. It wouldn't shock me to see Coles in the 16 shirt this weekend

                                Bench: This is telling
                                Coles, Karl T, Ofa, Vaa'i Paps, Fakatava, Mo'unga, RTS v
                                Coles/ST, Props, Whitelock, Paps, Roigard, Dmac, ALB
                                This is a huge improvement. There is genuine impact and experience there. That 2022 bench is so ordinary.

                                Ireland have the same players playing the same way. We lost that game by 10 points, and this AB side is more than 10 points better than June 2022.

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                                @mariner4life said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                Ireland have the same players playing the same way. We lost that game by 10 points, and this AB side is more than 10 points better than June 2022.

                                Do they. have the same selection of players this time round?

                                1st test:
                                Keenan; Earls, Ringrose, Henshaw, Lowe; Sexton (capt), Gibson-Park; Porter, Sheehan, Furlong, Beirne, Ryan; O'Mahony, Van der Flier, Doris.
                                Replacements: Heffernan, O'Toole, Healy, Treadwell, Conan, Murray, Carbery, Aki.

                                2nd test
                                Keenan; Hansen, Ringrose, Henshaw, Lowe; Sexton (capt), Gibson-Park; Porter, Sheehan, Furlong, Beirne, Ryan, O'Mahony, Van der Flier, Doris.
                                Replacements: Herring, Healy, Bealham, Treadwell, Conan, Murray, Carbery, Aki.

                                3rd test
                                Keenan; Hansen, Henshaw, Aki, Lowe; Sexton (capt), Gibson-Park; Porter, Sheehan, Furlong, Beirne, Ryan, O'Mahony, Van der Flier, Doris.
                                Replacements: Herring, Healy, Bealham, Treadwell, Conan, Murray, Carbery, Earls.

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                                • voodooV voodoo

                                  I have friends absolutely gutted that we have Barnes. Grudges or real concern? I’m not unhappy, but thought I’d dig out the list, here it is - make of it what you will

                                  https://www.rugbydatabase.co.nz/team/referee.php?teamId=3&refereeId=31

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                                  game_film
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                                  @voodoo He calls a good game, and doesn’t get usurped by an interfering TMO. He also knows - deep in his unconsciousness - he owes the ABs.

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                                  • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                    @KiwiMurph said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                    @Billy-Tell who knows they may be holding back Pearce or the Georgian for a semi final.

                                    Hope so

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                                    @MiketheSnow said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                    @KiwiMurph said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                    @Billy-Tell who knows they may be holding back Pearce or the Georgian for a semi final.

                                    Hope so

                                    Mike, this is great

                                    IMG_6369.jpeg

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                                      MiketheSnow
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                                      Been to 3 of the 4 indoor ones at Cardiff Rugby Club

                                      Been excellent

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                                        mariner4life
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                                        Barnes, good ref, but does allow a bit of a free for all at the breakdown. Help us? Hinder us? Who knows

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                                          @mariner4life said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                          Ireland have the same players playing the same way. We lost that game by 10 points, and this AB side is more than 10 points better than June 2022.

                                          Do they. have the same selection of players this time round?

                                          1st test:
                                          Keenan; Earls, Ringrose, Henshaw, Lowe; Sexton (capt), Gibson-Park; Porter, Sheehan, Furlong, Beirne, Ryan; O'Mahony, Van der Flier, Doris.
                                          Replacements: Heffernan, O'Toole, Healy, Treadwell, Conan, Murray, Carbery, Aki.

                                          2nd test
                                          Keenan; Hansen, Ringrose, Henshaw, Lowe; Sexton (capt), Gibson-Park; Porter, Sheehan, Furlong, Beirne, Ryan, O'Mahony, Van der Flier, Doris.
                                          Replacements: Herring, Healy, Bealham, Treadwell, Conan, Murray, Carbery, Aki.

                                          3rd test
                                          Keenan; Hansen, Henshaw, Aki, Lowe; Sexton (capt), Gibson-Park; Porter, Sheehan, Furlong, Beirne, Ryan, O'Mahony, Van der Flier, Doris.
                                          Replacements: Herring, Healy, Bealham, Treadwell, Conan, Murray, Carbery, Earls.

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                                          mariner4life
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                                          @Derm-McCrum see, exactly the same players...

                                          TBF I was mainly going starting 15 final test

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