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RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland

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  • D Dodge

    As another 'neutral' in this one, I think Ireland probably win this game 7 times out of 10. That means the ABs have a pretty decent chance, but if Ireland play as well as they have against Scotland / SA then i back their defensive organisation and discipline, as well as their kicking and attacking game to be too much over 80 mins for the ABs. I also think the Irish are mentally strong enough to cope with going behind early. All that said, only a fool writes the ABs off completely.

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    stodders
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    @Dodge

    https://giphy.com/gifs/jim-carrey-dumb-and-dumber-so-youre-telling-me-theres-a-chance-ToMjGpKniGqRNLGBrhu

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    • S stodders

      To any of the Irish posters on here, I've seen some talk about Irish fans countering the Haka. Will it be the Fields of Athenry or Zombie as the backing song to the Haka at the weekend do you think? 🙂

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      @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

      To any of the Irish posters on here, I've seen some talk about Irish fans countering the Haka. Will it be the Fields of Athenry or Zombie as the backing song to the Haka at the weekend do you think? 🙂

      I personally dont give a rat's what they do. All the important stuff happens after the first whistle.

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        Come on Foz you got this. Don't be conservative in the selections.

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          @Victor-Meldrew said in [RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland]

          My only doubt about Roigard is if we are leading by two points and need to defend and his lack of experience in a tight game.

          Yeah, and this is based on the probably wrong assumption that we are actually leading and that Christie is going to pull off one miracle tackle after another that Roigard will somehow be unable to do.

          Picking Christie is pretty vintage Foster.
          A player that you know is bang average but conforms to a notion of safety first or some other nonsense.

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          @Frank said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

          Yeah, and this is based on the probably wrong assumption that we are actually leading and that Christie is going to pull off one miracle tackle after another that Roigard will somehow be unable to do.

          To be clear we don't know what the scoreline is likely to be when Smith comes off and there's a risk Christie will fuck up as well. On balance, Roigard's the better bet.

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            BerniesCorner
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            If Smith is going well and we are ahead I'd probably leave him on. No need to be robotic regarding subs.

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            • boobooB booboo

              @Derm-McCrum said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

              Apparently Jimmy O'Brien ate a Kimberley Mikado with his coffee this morning so it looks like he's not in the squad.

              None of that makes any sense to me.

              Ploise exploin ...

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              @booboo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

              @Derm-McCrum said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

              Apparently Jimmy O'Brien ate a Kimberley Mikado with his coffee this morning so it looks like he's not in the squad.

              None of that makes any sense to me.

              Ploise exploin ...

              Eating biccies cos you're not in the squad. But it's ok - he squeezed onto the bench in the 23 geansaí so relax as you were.

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              • S stodders

                To any of the Irish posters on here, I've seen some talk about Irish fans countering the Haka. Will it be the Fields of Athenry or Zombie as the backing song to the Haka at the weekend do you think? 🙂

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                Derm McCrum
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                @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                To any of the Irish posters on here, I've seen some talk about Irish fans countering the Haka. Will it be the Fields of Athenry or Zombie as the backing song to the Haka at the weekend do you think? 🙂

                How would we know? Besides it's not countering the haka - it's an Irish singalong that the NZ team dance to along with a beaudacious rapper.

                Crowd Zombie feat/Aaron S. and the Unzedders

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                • S stodders

                  @MiketheSnow Ryan was on the bench against Scotland. Henderson started.

                  So Ryan out, McCarthy in is the only change.

                  Strong, settled team. They are battle hardened, but they have also played a fair bit too. Compare the NZ backrow playing minutes to Ireland's:

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                  Image taken from this post on X:

                  https://x.com/Selfimprove_Man/status/1712014608557338881?s=20

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                  Derm McCrum
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                  @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                  @MiketheSnow Ryan was on the bench against Scotland. Henderson started.

                  So Ryan out, McCarthy in is the only change.

                  Leinster's Jimmy O'Brien is in the 23 instead of Henshaw or McCloskey - brings more versatility to the backline.

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                    Derm McCrum
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                    The RWC 2019 Stumblers vs 2023 Hopers

                    Cian Healy vs Andrew Porter
                    Rory Best vs Dan Sheehan
                    Tadhg Furlong - same
                    Iain Henderson - same
                    James Ryan vs Tadgh Beirne
                    Peter O'Mahony - same
                    Josh van der Flier - same
                    CJ Stander vs Caelan Doris

                    Conor Murray - Jamison Gibson Park
                    Johnny Sexton - same
                    Jacob Stockdale vs Mack Hansen
                    Robbie Henshaw vs Bundee Aki
                    Garry Ringrose - same
                    Keith Earls vs James Lowe
                    Rob Kearney vs Hugo Keenan
                    Replacements
                    Niall Scannell vs Ronan Kelleher
                    Dave Kilcoyne - same
                    Andrew Porter vs Finlay Bealham
                    Tadhg Beirne vs Joe McCarthy
                    Rhys Ruddock vs Jack Conan
                    Luke McGrath vs Conor Murray
                    Joey Carbery vs Jack Crowley
                    Jordan Larmour vs Jimmy O'Brien

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                      Much amusement that Gregor Paul of the NZ Herald seems to have misunderstood the long-standing joke between Irish and SA fans about Josh van der Flier being from Wicklow in South Africa. :backhand_index_pointing_down_light_skin_tone:

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                      • D Derm McCrum

                        Much amusement that Gregor Paul of the NZ Herald seems to have misunderstood the long-standing joke between Irish and SA fans about Josh van der Flier being from Wicklow in South Africa. :backhand_index_pointing_down_light_skin_tone:

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                        @Derm-McCrum said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                        Much amusement that Gregor Paul of the NZ Herald seems to have misunderstood the long-standing joke between Irish and SA fans about Josh van der Flier being from Wicklow in South Africa. :backhand_index_pointing_down_light_skin_tone:

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                        The secret to reading Gregor Paul articles is to ensure you enjoy the fish'n'chips that they are wrapped around as the grease and torn paper will hopefully make the article a thoughtful but unfinished "what if" rather than something that should be put straight into the bin.

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                        • boobooB booboo

                          In case it hasn't been mentioned ...

                          https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1712034563697045611?t=1XHU4Qh6RvC3NV32ZhaRnQ&s=19

                          6pm CET Thursday = 2am AEST = 4am NZST

                          All is right with the world.

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                          @booboo Perfect timing for everyone ...

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                            You know you're up against it when one of your own legends is tipping the green machine:

                            https://www.planetrugby.com/news/legendary-centre-conrad-smith-fears-for-the-all-blacks-against-ireland

                            "I’d love to think the All Blacks have got one in us to get one over the Irish, but it’s a game that if it was played 10 times, the All Blacks could win three or four."

                            He must have been speaking to @Dodge 😄

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                              @Derm-McCrum said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                              Much amusement that Gregor Paul of the NZ Herald seems to have misunderstood the long-standing joke between Irish and SA fans about Josh van der Flier being from Wicklow in South Africa. :backhand_index_pointing_down_light_skin_tone:

                              Screenshot 2023-10-11 at 15.20.41.png

                              The secret to reading Gregor Paul articles is to ensure you enjoy the fish'n'chips that they are wrapped around as the grease and torn paper will hopefully make the article a thoughtful but unfinished "what if" rather than something that should be put straight into the bin.

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                              game_film
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                              @PecoTrain Oh dear. Takes all of 2 seconds to check that one, even if your entire career wasn’t based on knowing everything going on in Rugby. Guess he thought he was too good to be Irish.

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                                (a) We are a better team than in the series last year.

                                (b) Ireland were well on top in the 1st game last year, until Sexton got a head knock and went off.

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                                  Mystic Meg is going with his heart, but his head is telling him differently:

                                  https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/the-pool-has-been-massively-harmful-to-us-all-blacks-legend-justin-marshall-concerned-ahead-of-ireland-clash/a294767553.html

                                  When it came time to making a final prediction, the legendary scrum-half was reluctant to go against his home country, even as he acknowledged that he doesn’t know if they will be good enough to beat Ireland.

                                  "My prediction is New Zealand and as you can see, I’m not totally convinced that is going to happen. I hope in my heart that New Zealand can find that performance, but Ireland are the best team in the world and the only way you can beat the best team in the world is to play out of your skin. New Zealand need to find that right now.”

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                                  • P PecoTrain

                                    @Derm-McCrum said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                    Much amusement that Gregor Paul of the NZ Herald seems to have misunderstood the long-standing joke between Irish and SA fans about Josh van der Flier being from Wicklow in South Africa. :backhand_index_pointing_down_light_skin_tone:

                                    Screenshot 2023-10-11 at 15.20.41.png

                                    The secret to reading Gregor Paul articles is to ensure you enjoy the fish'n'chips that they are wrapped around as the grease and torn paper will hopefully make the article a thoughtful but unfinished "what if" rather than something that should be put straight into the bin.

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                                    Derm McCrum
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                                    @PecoTrain said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                    @Derm-McCrum said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                    Much amusement that Gregor Paul of the NZ Herald seems to have misunderstood the long-standing joke between Irish and SA fans about Josh van der Flier being from Wicklow in South Africa. :backhand_index_pointing_down_light_skin_tone:

                                    Screenshot 2023-10-11 at 15.20.41.png

                                    The secret to reading Gregor Paul articles is to ensure you enjoy the fish'n'chips that they are wrapped around as the grease and torn paper will hopefully make the article a thoughtful but unfinished "what if" rather than something that should be put straight into the bin.

                                    Eating fish and chips off your mobile phone? Is that a New Zealand thing now? Pretty small portions.

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                                    • TimT Tim

                                      (a) We are a better team than in the series last year.

                                      (b) Ireland were well on top in the 1st game last year, until Sexton got a head knock and went off.

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                                      Derm McCrum
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                                      @Tim said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                      (a) We are a better team than in the series last year.

                                      (b) Ireland were well on top in the 1st game last year, until Sexton got a head knock and went off.

                                      I'm outraged. What are you suggesting should happen JJ Sexminx in the match?

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                                      • G game_film

                                        @PecoTrain Oh dear. Takes all of 2 seconds to check that one, even if your entire career wasn’t based on knowing everything going on in Rugby. Guess he thought he was too good to be Irish.

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                                        Derm McCrum
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                                        @game_film said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                        @PecoTrain Oh dear. Takes all of 2 seconds to check that one, even if your entire career wasn’t based on knowing everything going on in Rugby. Guess he thought he was too good to be Irish.

                                        Thought it was more that he'd probably never heard of him before.... 🙂

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                                          You know you're up against it when one of your own legends is tipping the green machine:

                                          https://www.planetrugby.com/news/legendary-centre-conrad-smith-fears-for-the-all-blacks-against-ireland

                                          "I’d love to think the All Blacks have got one in us to get one over the Irish, but it’s a game that if it was played 10 times, the All Blacks could win three or four."

                                          He must have been speaking to @Dodge 😄

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                                          Steven Harris
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                                          @stodders great to see a former All Black great saying what many of us are thinking

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