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RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland

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  • antipodeanA antipodean

    @akan004 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    https://twitter.com/liamnapiernz/status/1712160532516499916?t=IFS_OKpxq3h3443t3xuBAA&s=19

    The Christie selection is looking likely.

    Then we're fucked.

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    @antipodean said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    @akan004 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    https://twitter.com/liamnapiernz/status/1712160532516499916?t=IFS_OKpxq3h3443t3xuBAA&s=19

    This in my opinion is a poorly written article. After reading it you'd be convinced that Ofa and Nepo are the second comings of christ, and de Groot is useless...

    He has had one, ONE red, and one yellow in his whole career, and he is all of a sudden a high risk of cards?? And since when is Ofa a better scrummager than him? Since he powerhoused Namibia - give me strength.

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      The thing that concerns me is that in recent times a lot of the leaked or media posted teams have been on the money. Ughh Christie....

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        The thing that concerns me is that in recent times a lot of the leaked or media posted teams have been on the money. Ughh Christie....

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        @JK which begs the question, why not just announce the team if you have named it in camp, but not officially?

        I know they dont need to, but what is the point of delaying it? Do they think there is a tactical advantage, that there clearly wont be if team sheets are leaked anyway!

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          I thought they were waiting until Lomax trains on Thursday?

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          • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

            I thought they were waiting until Lomax trains on Thursday?

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            @nostrildamus yeah they are having an intense training today, but it aint like players dont get scratched when injured in training.

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            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

              not to mention no Samisoni?

              How far he has fallen in the coaches estimation, when at one point he was the best 2, now rated 3rd...IMO, this is in part due to the way he has been managed and his form has fallen.

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              @taniwharugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

              not to mention no Samisoni?

              How far he has fallen in the coaches estimation, when at one point he was the best 2, now rated 3rd...IMO, this is in part due to the way he has been managed and his form has fallen.

              I’m not sure he’s been managed poorly. He’s been rotated like many young hookers before him.

              Remember when Mealamu was rotated from the starting spot when Henry brought back Oliver (as a starter) and then there was Hore as well that started. Mitchell had Kev as no.1 back in 03 when he was still very young. Kev went on to play many more years as I suspect Sami will. Samisoni has two more RWCs in him for the ABs.

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              • JKJ JK

                The thing that concerns me is that in recent times a lot of the leaked or media posted teams have been on the money. Ughh Christie....

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                @JK said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                The thing that concerns me is that in recent times a lot of the leaked or media posted teams have been on the money. Ughh Christie....

                @bayimports was getting us the team before officially announced from way back.

                There was someone else on here during the Hansen era that seemed to have the good oil too.

                “Leaks” are good for the game in my view.

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                  With Christie and ALB the bench looks shit again.

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                    I was all for Roiguard being the right back up choice, but some of his early decision making in the last game was a bit concerning

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                      https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/rugby-world-cup-2023/2023/10/rugby-world-cup-the-shared-beers-that-show-mutual-respect-between-all-blacks-ireland-before-quarter-final-clash.html

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                        Damn this was a good haka. If only we still had those players.

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                        • StagS Stag

                          I was all for Roiguard being the right back up choice, but some of his early decision making in the last game was a bit concerning

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                          @Stag said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                          I was all for Roiguard being the right back up choice, but some of his early decision making in the last game was a bit concerning

                          As opposed to Christie's wonderful decision making?

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                          • S stodders

                            FWIW, I can maybe see some logic in Leicester being the bench option covering several positions at a stretch. But I would be surprised if he makes the 23 given what happened to him last year in the Ireland series and based on hits outs against Uruguay and Namibia.

                            If Telea is injured and LF is chosen, Clarke has fallen a long way.

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                            @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                            FWIW, I can maybe see some logic in Leicester being the bench option covering several positions at a stretch. But I would be surprised if he makes the 23 given what happened to him last year in the Ireland series and based on hits outs against Uruguay and Namibia.

                            If Telea is injured and LF is chosen, Clarke has fallen a long way.

                            LF's workrate and cameos as an extra loose forward

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                            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                              @Stag said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                              I was all for Roiguard being the right back up choice, but some of his early decision making in the last game was a bit concerning

                              As opposed to Christie's wonderful decision making?

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                              @KiwiMurph said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                              @Stag said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                              I was all for Roiguard being the right back up choice, but some of his early decision making in the last game was a bit concerning

                              As opposed to Christie's wonderful decision making?

                              I'd take a chance on Roigard's decision making for the x factor he provides off the bench along with Dmac....

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                                @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                FWIW, I can maybe see some logic in Leicester being the bench option covering several positions at a stretch. But I would be surprised if he makes the 23 given what happened to him last year in the Ireland series and based on hits outs against Uruguay and Namibia.

                                If Telea is injured and LF is chosen, Clarke has fallen a long way.

                                LF's workrate and cameos as an extra loose forward

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                                @PecoTrain If LF plays, then they need to ensure they utilize his strengths, ball running and around the ruck, while also allow for him being slower when the ball is behind him.

                                This has shades of 2019 where we picked an extra lock, in theory to attack the English lineout, but didnt...

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                                  I think that the choice of the other TH prop will depend on Lomax's status. If he can start and play 60 mins then we might see Newell on the bench. Otherwise I think that Laulala starts and Lomax could be on reduced minutes as a reserve.

                                  Conservative selections in the reserves isn't going to help.

                                  Looking at the Ireland-SA game, they play their starting props big minutes as there is a big drop-off in quality.

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                                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                    @PecoTrain If LF plays, then they need to ensure they utilize his strengths, ball running and around the ruck, while also allow for him being slower when the ball is behind him.

                                    This has shades of 2019 where we picked an extra lock, in theory to attack the English lineout, but didnt...

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                                    @taniwharugby my recollection of 2019 was playing an extra lock because BBR was coming back from injury and likely wouldn't last the distance.

                                    For LF, I guess I would take Jordan/Telia for starting wings and utilise LF's energy late in the game where the kick/chase game has lost some of its energy.

                                    I'm also interested to see how Hansen plays - he didn't look good following the head knock/return from HIA against Scotland and I was surprised to see him named. That and Ryans injury may alter Irelands kicking game in the second half if the lineout/chase options aren't up to it.

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                                    • StagS Stag

                                      I was all for Roiguard being the right back up choice, but some of his early decision making in the last game was a bit concerning

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                                      @Stag said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                      I was all for Roiguard being the right back up choice, but some of his early decision making in the last game was a bit concerning

                                      From memory, he did seem to run when the pass was probably the better option a few times I thought

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                                      • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                        @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                        Pure conjecture from a post on X:

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                                        Too many in that selection that don't look right to me.

                                        I think the second line props will be Ofa and Nepo - and they both may well start because de Groot will be undercooked and Lomax medium-rare.

                                        Telea ahead of Leicester and Roigard over Christie.

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                                        @Chris-B said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                        @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                        Pure conjecture from a post on X:

                                        image.png

                                        Too many in that selection that don't look right to me.

                                        I think the second line props will be Ofa and Nepo - and they both may well start because de Groot will be undercooked and Lomax medium-rare.

                                        Telea ahead of Leicester and Roigard over Christie.

                                        Medium-rare seems perfect to me when there’s a lot at stake.

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                                          Come on management roll the dice, NZ WANTS YOU TO
                                          DMac and Roigard are WINNERS

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