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RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland

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    #673

    Come on management roll the dice, NZ WANTS YOU TO
    DMac and Roigard are WINNERS

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    • G george33

      @stodders well we will find out, only thing must be experience on Finlay's side mite get him over the line ,as for Talea if he's out that's huge loss , Leister is quality but makes alot of errors and I worry about his pace and slowness to turn and chase at test level big matches, If I'm correct he played Ireland last season then basically disappeared after that series, and the other bench rumour Newell over Nepo just can't see it ,both De Groot and Lomax haven't played significant minutes for a while now, must b temptation to start Ofa,Nepo with De Groot,Lomax on bench,still think Newell is a way off yet at test level big matches, ok to look good against minnows ,Ireland different beast

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      @george33 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

      @stodders well we will find out, only thing must be experience on Finlay's side mite get him over the line ,as for Talea if he's out that's huge loss , Leister is quality but makes alot of errors and I worry about his pace and slowness to turn and chase at test level big matches, If I'm correct he played Ireland last season then basically disappeared after that series, and the other bench rumour Newell over Nepo just can't see it ,both De Groot and Lomax haven't played significant minutes for a while now, must b temptation to start Ofa,Nepo with De Groot,Lomax on bench,still think Newell is a way off yet at test level big matches, ok to look good against minnows ,Ireland different beast

      Fucken hell George! You on the red bull? More than one or two lines and most of it kinda made sense!

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      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

        @PecoTrain If LF plays, then they need to ensure they utilize his strengths, ball running and around the ruck, while also allow for him being slower when the ball is behind him.

        This has shades of 2019 where we picked an extra lock, in theory to attack the English lineout, but didnt...

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        @taniwharugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

        If LF plays, then they need to ensure they utilize his strengths, ball running and around the ruck, while also allow for him being slower when the ball is behind him.

        He will get shut the fuck down around the ruck, it's not Uruguay/Namibia - Ireland would fucken love that. Better off running at the ten channel to hit JGP/Sexton or staying on the wing.

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          So how many minutes has CC actually played this WC?

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          • chimoausC chimoaus

            So how many minutes has CC actually played this WC?

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            @chimoaus said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

            So how many minutes has CC actually played this WC?

            Marginally more than Narawa.

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            • chimoausC chimoaus

              So how many minutes has CC actually played this WC?

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              @chimoaus 107 minutes: 80 minutes against Namibia (starting at 14) an 27 minutes against Uruguay.

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                Geee you can see who the public want…

                IMG_0891.jpeg

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                • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                  @stodders yeah but Christie struggles when we have parity so who the hell knows. I thought Roigard started off patchy but came right as the game went on. Just an experience thing. Roigard has so much more upside than Christie. No point going into Ireland picking experienced players if they don't do anything. If we are down late in the game I'd rather bring on someone like Roigard than Christie to break the game open.

                  Christie has literally shown nothing with his chances to say pick me. We are not going beat Ireland by picking players like that.

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                  @Canes4life

                  There's a risk in picking Roigard and a risk in not picking Roigard. I think it will be a fine line decision.

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                  • A akan004

                    With Christie and ALB the bench looks shit again.

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                    @akan004 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                    With Christie and ALB the bench looks shit again.

                    Who, other than ALB, to cover midfield?

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                    • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                      @Canes4life

                      There's a risk in picking Roigard and a risk in not picking Roigard. I think it will be a fine line decision.

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                      @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                      @Canes4life

                      There's a risk in picking Roigard and a risk in not picking Roigard. I think it will be a fine line decision.

                      Stop it. There is far les risk in picking Roigard than there is in picking Christie. Only ten morons on Facebook and Foster would pick Christie (and maybe anyone needing to pretend Roigard is a risk because they can't depart the Fozzie defence).

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                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                        @Stag said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                        I was all for Roiguard being the right back up choice, but some of his early decision making in the last game was a bit concerning

                        As opposed to Christie's wonderful decision making?

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                        @KiwiMurph said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                        As opposed to Christie's wonderful decision making?

                        Nothing wrong with Christie's decision-making. It's just that it's a bit slow....

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                        • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                          @KiwiMurph said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                          As opposed to Christie's wonderful decision making?

                          Nothing wrong with Christie's decision-making. It's just that it's a bit slow....

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                          @Victor-Meldrew against one of the least ponderous defences in world rugby. Good combination 😄

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                            Did Christie go up against Roigard in Super Rugby this year? If so, how did they fare against each other?

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                            • BonesB Bones

                              @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                              @Canes4life

                              There's a risk in picking Roigard and a risk in not picking Roigard. I think it will be a fine line decision.

                              Stop it. There is far les risk in picking Roigard than there is in picking Christie. Only ten morons on Facebook and Foster would pick Christie (and maybe anyone needing to pretend Roigard is a risk because they can't depart the Fozzie defence).

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                              @Bones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                              There is far les risk in picking Roigard than there is in picking Christie.

                              There is more risk in picking Roigard, but that's more than balanced out by the bigger upside in having Roigard on the bench.

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                                Roigard is a similar kind of player to Conor Murray. Ireland have 2 different style 9s in their 23. If NZ chose Christie, it suggests the ABs have one way of playing. What happens if it doesn't work? Christie isn't exactly going to snipe round the fringe.

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                                • S stodders

                                  @Victor-Meldrew against one of the least ponderous defences in world rugby. Good combination 😄

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                                  @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                  @Victor-Meldrew against one of the least ponderous defences in world rugby. Good combination 😄

                                  You got my irony. Well done sir!

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                                  • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                    @Bones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                    There is far les risk in picking Roigard than there is in picking Christie.

                                    There is more risk in picking Roigard, but that's more than balanced out by the bigger upside in having Roigard on the bench.

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                                    @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                    @Bones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                    There is far les risk in picking Roigard than there is in picking Christie.

                                    There is more risk in picking Roigard, but that's more than balanced out by the bigger upside in having Roigard on the bench.

                                    There isn't more risk, you're making it up. What's the risk?

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                                    • BonesB Bones

                                      @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                      @Bones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                      There is far les risk in picking Roigard than there is in picking Christie.

                                      There is more risk in picking Roigard, but that's more than balanced out by the bigger upside in having Roigard on the bench.

                                      There isn't more risk, you're making it up. What's the risk?

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                                      @Bones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                      @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                      @Bones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                      There is far les risk in picking Roigard than there is in picking Christie.

                                      There is more risk in picking Roigard, but that's more than balanced out by the bigger upside in having Roigard on the bench.

                                      There isn't more risk, you're making it up. What's the risk?

                                      In Christies case maybe sunburn even at this time of year ?

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                                      • S stodders

                                        Roigard is a similar kind of player to Conor Murray. Ireland have 2 different style 9s in their 23. If NZ chose Christie, it suggests the ABs have one way of playing. What happens if it doesn't work? Christie isn't exactly going to snipe round the fringe.

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                                        @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                        Roigard is a similar kind of player to Conor Murray

                                        That's an even more bizarre take than there's less risk picking Christie.

                                        They are streets apart.

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                                        • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                                          @Stag said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                          I was all for Roiguard being the right back up choice, but some of his early decision making in the last game was a bit concerning

                                          From memory, he did seem to run when the pass was probably the better option a few times I thought

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                                          @kiwiinmelb said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                          @Stag said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                          I was all for Roiguard being the right back up choice, but some of his early decision making in the last game was a bit concerning

                                          From memory, he did seem to run when the pass was probably the better option a few times I thought

                                          But I liked the way he handled his little period of yips - thought that showed a lot of maturity and composure. And I'd prefer his speed of decision making over Christie any day.

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