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RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland

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    akan004
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    Foster shat the bed with his selections in his first test as head coach against Australia in 2000, and it looks like he has done the same in what will probably be his last test as ABs head coach. That bench is average tbh.

    Big fan of Telea but he has let the team down badly. He's been our most lethal back at the RWC and his absence will be felt.

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      @stodders That's the craic

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        I’m hearing foster is out injured of the coaching box. Something about cutting off his nose after a dispute with his face.

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        • Dan54D Dan54

          @foobaNZ said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

          Like most, my first reaction is why TF Christie is there over Roigard. Absolutely baffling.

          Looking at it overall, it's the best 23 aside from that one glaring selection (and Telea being unavailable).

          My concern though is the starting props haven't had a lot of recent game time. They're our best, no doubt, but that is a worry.

          I must admit I would go for Roigard, but I think (well and Foster says it) Christie is considered a better defender, which is hard to argue with or against as I haven't really taken a lot of notice, and with Irish you will see that Gibson-Parkes does cause problems for teams in and around breakdowns.
          As for Telea, I guess if you break the rules , usually set by the leadership team, you have to cop it I suppose. And perhaps he wasn't desperate enough to play or he wouldn't of done it.

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          @Dan54 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

          @foobaNZ said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

          Like most, my first reaction is why TF Christie is there over Roigard. Absolutely baffling.

          Looking at it overall, it's the best 23 aside from that one glaring selection (and Telea being unavailable).

          My concern though is the starting props haven't had a lot of recent game time. They're our best, no doubt, but that is a worry.

          I must admit I would go for Roigard, but I think (well and Foster says it) Christie is considered a better defender, which is hard to argue with or against as I haven't really taken a lot of notice, and with Irish you will see that Gibson-Parkes does cause problems for teams in and around breakdowns.
          As for Telea, I guess if you break the rules , usually set by the leadership team, you have to cop it I suppose. And perhaps he wasn't desperate enough to play or he wouldn't of done it.

          Apologies to all and sundry for being a grammar Nazi. But “wouldn’t have done it”

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          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

            @Bones only this week...Will he be dropped from the flight home?

            Being a few mins late to a meeting vs coming home later than curfew are different IMO, although without valid reasoning both speak to some ill discipline

            I don't we will find out the exact detail given some of these often fly under the radar.

            LF and FC to have blinders

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            @taniwharugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

            only this week...Will he be dropped from the flight home?

            Only if he tries to sneak a drumstick out of the bucket again.

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              @Dan54 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

              @foobaNZ said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

              Like most, my first reaction is why TF Christie is there over Roigard. Absolutely baffling.

              Looking at it overall, it's the best 23 aside from that one glaring selection (and Telea being unavailable).

              My concern though is the starting props haven't had a lot of recent game time. They're our best, no doubt, but that is a worry.

              I must admit I would go for Roigard, but I think (well and Foster says it) Christie is considered a better defender, which is hard to argue with or against as I haven't really taken a lot of notice, and with Irish you will see that Gibson-Parkes does cause problems for teams in and around breakdowns.
              As for Telea, I guess if you break the rules , usually set by the leadership team, you have to cop it I suppose. And perhaps he wasn't desperate enough to play or he wouldn't of done it.

              Apologies to all and sundry for being a grammar Nazi. But “wouldn’t have done it”

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              @Billy-Tell tal mark talea that

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                @Billy-Tell tal mark talea that

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                Machpants
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                @Bones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                @Billy-Tell tal mark talea that

                tilear

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                  @Bones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                  @Billy-Tell tal mark talea that

                  tilear

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                  @Machpants the guy in the stands with Celab Clorke

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                    I'm not happy about Christie, Telea.

                    However I am really worried snd concerned about Tamaiti Williams on the bench. We should be picking experience on the bench, not a rookie.

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                    • DamoD Damo

                      I'm not happy about Christie, Telea.

                      However I am really worried snd concerned about Tamaiti Williams on the bench. We should be picking experience on the bench, not a rookie.

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                      @Damo haha need that experience at reserve 9, but not prop

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                      • DamoD Damo

                        I'm not happy about Christie, Telea.

                        However I am really worried snd concerned about Tamaiti Williams on the bench. We should be picking experience on the bench, not a rookie.

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                        @Damo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                        I'm not happy about Christie, Telea.

                        However I am really worried snd concerned about Tamaiti Williams on the bench. We should be picking experience on the bench, not a rookie.

                        True. Experience losing is still good. All part of learnings.

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                        • F foobaNZ

                          Like most, my first reaction is why TF Christie is there over Roigard. Absolutely baffling.

                          Looking at it overall, it's the best 23 aside from that one glaring selection (and Telea being unavailable).

                          My concern though is the starting props haven't had a lot of recent game time. They're our best, no doubt, but that is a worry.

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                          @foobaNZ said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                          Like most, my first reaction is why TF Christie is there over Roigard. Absolutely baffling.

                          Not baffling. He's been picked for his defence which is one dimensional thinking.

                          Completely the wrong decision IMHO as Roigard offers a whole lot more and is what we used to call a "comer" in the old days - a player not frightened to try things

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                            Foster shat the bed with his selections in his first test as head coach against Australia in 2000, and it looks like he has done the same in what will probably be his last test as ABs head coach. That bench is average tbh.

                            Big fan of Telea but he has let the team down badly. He's been our most lethal back at the RWC and his absence will be felt.

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                            @akan004 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                            Foster shat the bed with his selections in his first test as head coach against Australia in 2000, and it looks like he has done the same in what will probably be his last test as ABs head coach. That bench is average tbh.

                            Big fan of Talea but he has let the team down badly. He's been our most lethal back at the RWC and his absence will be felt.

                            Jeepers. 23 years. No wonder Foster has gone a bit stale. Time for him to go.

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                            • canefanC canefan

                              @BerniesCorner said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                              In all seriousness the one thing that pisses me off is that after reading these post team announcement headlines the Irish team will be shaking their heads with bemusement. I'm sick of coming second in the smart team stakes.
                              Where's Razor.

                              He's ready and waiting. In Chch...

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                              @canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                              He's ready and waiting. In Chch...

                              And working on George Bridge's side-stepping skills

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                                @canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                He's ready and waiting. In Chch...

                                And working on George Bridge's side-stepping skills

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                                @Victor-Meldrew I reckon he’d make him feel world class at the v least 😉

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                                  It pains me to say I have never been more confident of an impending All Black loss
                                  Under Foster we have arrived at RWC QF 4 years later as a massive underdog.
                                  Even against England in the 2019 RWC semi final there was reasonable degree of confidence the ABs would get the job done

                                  Hoping for the best expecting the worst
                                  I would imagine that’s what many other supporters use to think when their team was taking on the All Blacks

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                                    Not one to cause alarm but Roigard was a breath of fresh air at Twickenham. It was only South Africa though.

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                                      It pains me to say I have never been more confident of an impending All Black loss
                                      Under Foster we have arrived at RWC QF 4 years later as a massive underdog.
                                      Even against England in the 2019 RWC semi final there was reasonable degree of confidence the ABs would get the job done

                                      Hoping for the best expecting the worst
                                      I would imagine that’s what many other supporters use to think when their team was taking on the All Blacks

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                                      @Steven-Harris said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                      Hoping for the best expecting the worst

                                      Are you gonna drop the bomb or not

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                                      • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

                                        Not one to cause alarm but Roigard was a breath of fresh air at Twickenham. It was only South Africa though.

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                                        @BerniesCorner said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                        Not one to cause alarm but Roigard was a breath of fresh air at Twickenham. It was only South Africa though.

                                        Christie was a breath of carious, decaying tooth air in many other Tests, though, which has its fans, too

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                                        • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                          @foobaNZ said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                          Like most, my first reaction is why TF Christie is there over Roigard. Absolutely baffling.

                                          Not baffling. He's been picked for his defence which is one dimensional thinking.

                                          Completely the wrong decision IMHO as Roigard offers a whole lot more and is what we used to call a "comer" in the old days - a player not frightened to try things

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                                          @Victor-Meldrew that is baffling to me.

                                          Any supposed superiority in Christie's defence is more than negated by Roigard's superiority elsewhere.

                                          So again, I think it's baffling.

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