RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland
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forgive my studied ignorance but is it allowable to send the ABs out on the field but swap Rieko and Leicester? That would mess with Irish plans!
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@game_film said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Baby Dupont should be in the team but maybe Christie surprises with a TJP-esque turnover late on.
Surely Telea wasn’t out alone? Appreciate the need for standards of performance though. Leicester can come into the middle and do some work at least.
But come on, this is not a game based on these individuals, this one is based on tactics and execution. Lions game 1. Do or die vs Boks. It’s there.
Those are often the most fun nights as I recall. Not everyone needs a wingman when out hitting on hot French chicks.
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Re ST....is there anyone that has lifted their game under fozzie?....is there anyone that plays better for the AB's than in super anymore? feel like at most there are a few that play as well but several that seem to go down hill in the black jersey
@Kiwiwomble RTS
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@canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
He's ready and waiting. In Chch...
And working on George Bridge's side-stepping skills
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
He's ready and waiting. In Chch...
And working on George Bridge's side-stepping skills
Isn't GB in the NH now?
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@Crazy-Horse Codie's form dropped off a big cliff, was persevered with and he found his way back to form, repaid the faith I guess...
The one that stands out would be Scott Barrett, otherwise everyone else is patchy at best.
@taniwharugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
The one that stands out would be Scott Barrett, otherwise everyone else is patchy at best.
He's been pretty damn good in SR as well, so not sure if that counts
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@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
He's ready and waiting. In Chch...
And working on George Bridge's side-stepping skills
Isn't GB in the NH now?
@canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
He's ready and waiting. In Chch...
And working on George Bridge's side-stepping skills
Isn't GB in the NH now?
Montpellier?
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20221203-ex-all-black-bridge-scores-but-loses-on-montpellier-bow -
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@Frank said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Mark Telea is a tool for breaking curfew.
As were Israel Dagg and Cory Jane days before 2011 RWC Quarterfinal. The difference was they weren't dropped.
@KiwiMurph said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Frank said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Mark Telea is a tool for breaking curfew.
As were Israel Dagg and Cory Jane days before 2011 RWC Quarterfinal. The difference was they weren't dropped.
yeah, the more i think about it the more it feels like fozzie just...does things....without actually thinking them through
like, he said him self it wasn't "bad"....so unless hes fibbing you have to think LF was purely late....not brought home by the cops or anything....really feels like clean everyone's boots and get up at training and apologise territory....not miss out on the biggest game of his career to date and risk the result in the process
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@Frank said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Mark Telea is a tool for breaking curfew.
As were Israel Dagg and Cory Jane days before 2011 RWC Quarterfinal. The difference was they weren't dropped.
@KiwiMurph said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Frank said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Mark Telea is a tool for breaking curfew.
As were Israel Dagg and Cory Jane days before 2011 RWC Quarterfinal. The difference was they weren't dropped.
They only snuck out for a beer.
Sauces close to the team inform me that Mark's problems started when he decided to the post-Uruguay fancy dress party as "Hawke's-Bay"!

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If we count Leicester as a utility back, is this the first time in some while we don't have a specialist wing in the 23? At least we have 5 or so fullback options. The starting #15 must be exceptional!
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@Frank said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Mark Telea is a tool for breaking curfew.
As were Israel Dagg and Cory Jane days before 2011 RWC Quarterfinal. The difference was they weren't dropped.
@KiwiMurph said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Frank said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Mark Telea is a tool for breaking curfew.
As were Israel Dagg and Cory Jane days before 2011 RWC Quarterfinal. The difference was they weren't dropped.
For whatever reason, I don’t think two scenarios can be compared.
Remember the 2007 RWC selection and Weepu, Filipo, Flavell, Schwalger all missed selection but yet Snakey got a pass. It’s arguable that only one of Filipo or Flavell would’ve made it, but it did result in Thorne getting a recall. Weepu definitely should’ve made the squad.
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If we count Leicester as a utility back, is this the first time in some while we don't have a specialist wing in the 23? At least we have 5 or so fullback options. The starting #15 must be exceptional!
@nostrildamus said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
If we count Leicester as a utility back, is this the first time in some while we don't have a specialist wing in the 23? At least we have 5 or so fullback options. The starting #15 must be exceptional!
That's moving the goal posts though isn't it. Fainga'anuku has played nearly all of his rugby for the ABs on the wing, likewise for the Crusaders.
By your argument, we don't have any specialist midfielders in the starting XV.
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@KiwiMurph said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Frank said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Mark Telea is a tool for breaking curfew.
As were Israel Dagg and Cory Jane days before 2011 RWC Quarterfinal. The difference was they weren't dropped.
For whatever reason, I don’t think two scenarios can be compared.
Remember the 2007 RWC selection and Weepu, Filipo, Flavell, Schwalger all missed selection but yet Snakey got a pass. It’s arguable that only one of Filipo or Flavell would’ve made it, but it did result in Thorne getting a recall. Weepu definitely should’ve made the squad.
@ACT-Crusader said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
For whatever reason, I don’t think two scenarios can be compared.
Why not?
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@Frank said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Mark Telea is a tool for breaking curfew.
My thoughts too... even if it is half an hour, it doesn't matter. In the week of the biggest game of your career you shouldn't even be running it close.
@frugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Frank said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Mark Telea is a tool for breaking curfew.
My thoughts too... even if it is half an hour, it doesn't matter. In the week of the biggest game of your career you shouldn't even be running it close.
definitely....primary responsibility rests with him....but i cant help feeling most other coaches would have made it clear how disappointed they were but inspired a player to redeem themselves on the pitch...hell, have him as one of the players doing press and own it "yeah i made a mistake....and im so glad the coach and team are giving me the chance to go out there and make it up to them"
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@Kirwan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Question worth considering regarding Telea, was the punishment decided by the player leadership group?
Does that group include Scott Barrett, Taylor, Whitelock and Mounga?
You’re suggesting there’s leadership in this team?
@MajorRage leadership? yes! Strategy and fall back plans? yeeeaaahhh naaaahh
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If we win does it mean Roigard's not in contention for the SF. Could be another 2 and 15 situation.
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At least CC and EB had a nice holiday