RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland
-
@ShitMcCaw stick around and enjoy yourself. We always like the input of foreign fans, their perspectives and knowledge.
Genuinely.
@antipodean said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@ShitMcCaw stick around and enjoy yourself. We always like the input of foreign fans, their perspectives and knowledge.
Genuinely.
Provided they don’t go on about ‘friendlie’ or prime Frans Botha
-
-
-
@Daffy-Jaffy said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
He's still a shit Richie macaw tho, no way Richie wouldn't have gone the full 80. With a broken foot
-
@Daffy-Jaffy said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Coming out of the tunnel, Sam looked like the embodiment of the Laser Kiwi flag. His best game that I can remember.
-
@ShitMcCaw I enjoy drunken banter so please stay. We definitely have our share of gobby dickheads (Dane Coles chief among them). But including McCaw there is stoopid. I've been to an event where he was keynote speaker and he practically had to be beaten with a stick to speak. Gobby that boy certainly ain't.
-
@ShitMcCaw TBH if one of our players behaved the same way as Sexton (esp abusing a ref) he would get treated with the same disdain and “constant and incessant whining” on here.
It really has little to do with you beating us so you can drp that approach to defending inexcusable behaviour.
@Snowy said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@ShitMcCaw TBH if one of our players behaved the same way as Sexton (esp abusing a ref) he would get treated with the same disdain and “constant and incessant whining” on here.
It really has little to do with you beating us so you can drp that approach to defending inexcusable behaviour.
This is me too. I don't begrudge the Gregan's of the world, heck that sledge was funny as hell. Incessant whining at the ref or blaming the ref afterwards, that's best left for the Fern, it's beneath the greatest players.
-
Well I didn't see that coming, mainly I didn't expect us to play so well. Ireland certainly didn't choke and it was two quality teams facing off against each other.
Our forward pack was very good, in general won the collision and set-piece was solid if not edging the Irish. Our short kicking game improved immeasurably in that it evolved from a disorganized, head scratching chaos to being able to see an organized and discernable plan to kick the ball short and have a competitive chase.
Great to see Kane and Savea actually playing like loose forwards and getting turn overs.
I thought we did a great job of converting our opportunities into points - the Irish turned down several kicks at goal which cost them (for reference ask AB fans the wisdom of turning down shots at goal in must win games as you chase tires, tries tires!!)
Our Achilles heels as in my mind we have two of them.
- Our exits are still terrible and even when executed don't relieve pressure
- Our discipline in the red zone is lacking
In short though a very good game of rugby, Ireland only held out by a couple of big defensive plays at the end. The D in the closing minutes though was epic and disciplined - I guess we held our discipline when it mattered most
-
@Snowy said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@ShitMcCaw TBH if one of our players behaved the same way as Sexton (esp abusing a ref) he would get treated with the same disdain and “constant and incessant whining” on here.
It really has little to do with you beating us so you can drp that approach to defending inexcusable behaviour.
This is me too. I don't begrudge the Gregan's of the world, heck that sledge was funny as hell. Incessant whining at the ref or blaming the ref afterwards, that's best left for the Fern, it's beneath the greatest players.
@voodoo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
This is me too. I don't begrudge the Gregan's of the world, heck that sledge was funny as hell. Incessant whining at the ref or blaming the ref afterwards, that's best left for the Fern, it's beneath the greatest players.
Dupont looking to ake up the mantle, maybe
-
Well I didn't see that coming, mainly I didn't expect us to play so well. Ireland certainly didn't choke and it was two quality teams facing off against each other.
Our forward pack was very good, in general won the collision and set-piece was solid if not edging the Irish. Our short kicking game improved immeasurably in that it evolved from a disorganized, head scratching chaos to being able to see an organized and discernable plan to kick the ball short and have a competitive chase.
Great to see Kane and Savea actually playing like loose forwards and getting turn overs.
I thought we did a great job of converting our opportunities into points - the Irish turned down several kicks at goal which cost them (for reference ask AB fans the wisdom of turning down shots at goal in must win games as you chase tires, tries tires!!)
Our Achilles heels as in my mind we have two of them.
- Our exits are still terrible and even when executed don't relieve pressure
- Our discipline in the red zone is lacking
In short though a very good game of rugby, Ireland only held out by a couple of big defensive plays at the end. The D in the closing minutes though was epic and disciplined - I guess we held our discipline when it mattered most
@Windows97 quite often though, it seems our 'poor' exits, are deliberate as opposed to poor execution, or there would be some method in there, but what is clearly beyond me, I mean giving opposition ball in the 40 to attack from broken play...
They live to fight another day, and maybe Foz has been timing thier run to perfection.
-
@Windows97 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Great to see Kane and Savea actually playing like loose forwards and getting turn overs.
He's a tough bugger, that's for sure.
-
@Windows97 quite often though, it seems our 'poor' exits, are deliberate as opposed to poor execution, or there would be some method in there, but what is clearly beyond me, I mean giving opposition ball in the 40 to attack from broken play...
They live to fight another day, and maybe Foz has been timing thier run to perfection.
@taniwharugby Yeah I don't know what's going on either - those "tactics" does seem to cost us points/cards and makes me yell at the TV a lot...
-
Well I didn't see that coming, mainly I didn't expect us to play so well. Ireland certainly didn't choke and it was two quality teams facing off against each other.
Our forward pack was very good, in general won the collision and set-piece was solid if not edging the Irish. Our short kicking game improved immeasurably in that it evolved from a disorganized, head scratching chaos to being able to see an organized and discernable plan to kick the ball short and have a competitive chase.
Great to see Kane and Savea actually playing like loose forwards and getting turn overs.
I thought we did a great job of converting our opportunities into points - the Irish turned down several kicks at goal which cost them (for reference ask AB fans the wisdom of turning down shots at goal in must win games as you chase tires, tries tires!!)
Our Achilles heels as in my mind we have two of them.
- Our exits are still terrible and even when executed don't relieve pressure
- Our discipline in the red zone is lacking
In short though a very good game of rugby, Ireland only held out by a couple of big defensive plays at the end. The D in the closing minutes though was epic and disciplined - I guess we held our discipline when it mattered most
@Windows97 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Well I didn't see that coming, mainly I didn't expect us to play so well. Ireland certainly didn't choke and it was two quality teams facing off against each other.
Our forward pack was very good, in general won the collision and set-piece was solid if not edging the Irish. Our short kicking game improved immeasurably in that it evolved from a disorganized, head scratching chaos to being able to see an organized and discernable plan to kick the ball short and have a competitive chase.
Great to see Kane and Savea actually playing like loose forwards and getting turn overs.
I thought we did a great job of converting our opportunities into points - the Irish turned down several kicks at goal which cost them (for reference ask AB fans the wisdom of turning down shots at goal in must win games as you chase tires, tries tires!!)
Our Achilles heels as in my mind we have two of them.
- Our exits are still terrible and even when executed don't relieve pressure
2) Our discipline in the red zone is lacking
In short though a very good game of rugby, Ireland only held out by a couple of big defensive plays at the end. The D in the closing minutes though was epic and disciplined - I guess we held our discipline when it mattered most
Were you hiding under the couch for the last 7 minutes and 312 phases???
Edit -just read your final line - but how do you reconcile those 2 statements??
-
@Windows97 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Well I didn't see that coming, mainly I didn't expect us to play so well. Ireland certainly didn't choke and it was two quality teams facing off against each other.
Our forward pack was very good, in general won the collision and set-piece was solid if not edging the Irish. Our short kicking game improved immeasurably in that it evolved from a disorganized, head scratching chaos to being able to see an organized and discernable plan to kick the ball short and have a competitive chase.
Great to see Kane and Savea actually playing like loose forwards and getting turn overs.
I thought we did a great job of converting our opportunities into points - the Irish turned down several kicks at goal which cost them (for reference ask AB fans the wisdom of turning down shots at goal in must win games as you chase tires, tries tires!!)
Our Achilles heels as in my mind we have two of them.
- Our exits are still terrible and even when executed don't relieve pressure
2) Our discipline in the red zone is lacking
In short though a very good game of rugby, Ireland only held out by a couple of big defensive plays at the end. The D in the closing minutes though was epic and disciplined - I guess we held our discipline when it mattered most
Were you hiding under the couch for the last 7 minutes and 312 phases???
Edit -just read your final line - but how do you reconcile those 2 statements??
Were you hiding under the couch for the last 7 minutes and 312 phases???
Edit -just read your final line - but how do you reconcile those 2 statements??
2 yellow cards both in the red zone - it needs to be 0. Were one of the most carded sides in world rugby these days and that's a discipline issue.
But tremendous D at the end of the game, superb.
- Our exits are still terrible and even when executed don't relieve pressure
-
@ShitMcCaw I enjoy drunken banter so please stay. We definitely have our share of gobby dickheads (Dane Coles chief among them). But including McCaw there is stoopid. I've been to an event where he was keynote speaker and he practically had to be beaten with a stick to speak. Gobby that boy certainly ain't.
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@ShitMcCaw I enjoy drunken banter so please stay. We definitely have our share of gobby dickheads (Dane Coles chief among them). But including McCaw there is stoopid. I've been to an event where he was keynote speaker and he practically had to be beaten with a stick to speak. Gobby that boy certainly ain't.
Yeah I wondered where that came from , I thought maybe I missed something.
-
Were you hiding under the couch for the last 7 minutes and 312 phases???
Edit -just read your final line - but how do you reconcile those 2 statements??
2 yellow cards both in the red zone - it needs to be 0. Were one of the most carded sides in world rugby these days and that's a discipline issue.
But tremendous D at the end of the game, superb.
@Windows97 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Were you hiding under the couch for the last 7 minutes and 312 phases???
Edit -just read your final line - but how do you reconcile those 2 statements??
2 yellow cards both in the red zone - it needs to be 0. Were one of the most carded sides in world rugby these days and that's a discipline issue.
But tremendous D at the end of the game, superb.
Smith's yellow was hardly a yellow card in the red zone that screamed lacking discipline. It was an inadvertent reflex reaction 30m from the line. I also sort of think Taylor slips (not debating the card) so didn't pull that maul down entirely intentionally. I thought out discipline v Ireland was pretty bloody good.
-
@Windows97 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Were you hiding under the couch for the last 7 minutes and 312 phases???
Edit -just read your final line - but how do you reconcile those 2 statements??
2 yellow cards both in the red zone - it needs to be 0. Were one of the most carded sides in world rugby these days and that's a discipline issue.
But tremendous D at the end of the game, superb.
Smith's yellow was hardly a yellow card in the red zone that screamed lacking discipline. It was an inadvertent reflex reaction 30m from the line. I also sort of think Taylor slips (not debating the card) so didn't pull that maul down entirely intentionally. I thought out discipline v Ireland was pretty bloody good.
@frugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Windows97 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Were you hiding under the couch for the last 7 minutes and 312 phases???
Edit -just read your final line - but how do you reconcile those 2 statements??
2 yellow cards both in the red zone - it needs to be 0. Were one of the most carded sides in world rugby these days and that's a discipline issue.
But tremendous D at the end of the game, superb.
Smith's yellow was hardly a yellow card in the red zone that screamed lacking discipline. It was an inadvertent reflex reaction 30m from the line. I also sort of think Taylor slips (not debating the card) so didn't pull that maul down entirely intentionally. I thought out discipline v Ireland was pretty bloody good.
Any time you play 20 minutes with 14 men is far from ideal, if we had lost the game I am sure we would have reflected on the poor discipline that led to those yellow cards. But yes, they well and truly redeemed themselves at the end.
-
@Windows97 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Were you hiding under the couch for the last 7 minutes and 312 phases???
Edit -just read your final line - but how do you reconcile those 2 statements??
2 yellow cards both in the red zone - it needs to be 0. Were one of the most carded sides in world rugby these days and that's a discipline issue.
But tremendous D at the end of the game, superb.
Smith's yellow was hardly a yellow card in the red zone that screamed lacking discipline. It was an inadvertent reflex reaction 30m from the line. I also sort of think Taylor slips (not debating the card) so didn't pull that maul down entirely intentionally. I thought out discipline v Ireland was pretty bloody good.
@frugby Yeah I had some sympathy for Smith as it "seemed" like a reflex reaction (though we will never know unless your A Smith yourself).
However those are the rules of the game and they were applied accordingly.
Our players know these rules and need to - dare I say it - discipline themselves to think instead of just reacting.
And it's not so much just that one example but a continuing trend of us giving away cards - that's my concern.
Was very pleased that Smith put it behind him and backed himself to get the intercept, shows great mental strength.
-
bit late to the party but neqrly 3k posts to catch up on!
Wow…epic match deserving of a final
I’ve seen post both ways about the reffing…which probably means he did a good job all in all
Something that I haven’t seen mentioned much…it took a complete change in how we’ve been trying to play for the last five years (we would have played whole games without 30 phases and we did it in a row in the first quarter)….and players like BB and Cane (who have had long runs of injury and/or poor form) to have blinders to beat this Irish team
Huge credit to Ireland…it took a perfect storm to beat them
-
Been out all day. Saw the last 5 minutes this morning so nice to get time this afternoon to get a look at the rest.
ABs first attacking raid going 29 phases without incident is pretty good.
Ireland's lineout and ruck are nervy.
I thought Barnes got the first scrum wrong tho - ABs THP folded in for me
@NTA said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
I thought Barnes got the first scrum wrong tho - ABs THP folded in for me
Alex Corbisiero has a look at the scrums.
