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Blues 2024

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  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

    @frugby I understand where you are coming from I just think writing him off completely is a little strong.

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    @KiwiMurph said in Blues 2024:

    @frugby I understand where you are coming from I just think writing him off completely is a little strong.

    I agree with this. Still think it's very unlikely he'll be back in the ABs, but with multiple injuries it's possible. In 2024 anyway.

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        Darry, Plummer and Suafoa have re-signed. Choat a year extra.

        https://twitter.com/BluesRugbyTeam/status/1715247389265772859

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          Note the last sentence of that tweet!

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          • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

            @KiwiMurph I agree with @frugby, A Ioane won't be an AB again. I'm surprised he stayed in New Zealand. There are plenty of talented loosies coming through that Razor will pick ahead of him I feel. Ioane had his chance and failed to deliver.

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            @Canes4life said in Blues 2024:

            @KiwiMurph I agree with @frugby, A Ioane won't be an AB again.

            I can see how from a Canes perspective Akira is just too tall to be a forward.

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              Grace hardly effective at NPC level, Blackadder has been found out at test level ,but with Razor who would no , probably C Drummond at 9

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                Anyway, at least we now know that the Blues squad for 2024 will be announced on 9 November. I think we can assume that all other NZ franchises will announce their squad on the 9th as well.

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                • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                  @KiwiMurph I agree with @frugby, A Ioane won't be an AB again. I'm surprised he stayed in New Zealand. There are plenty of talented loosies coming through that Razor will pick ahead of him I feel. Ioane had his chance and failed to deliver.

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                  @Canes4life Nothing wrong with staying in NZ. Yeah, I think he doesn't fit into the way that Ryan likes to play, but it's a good thing seeing guys like Akira staying in NZ. No need to hate on the guy for staying on and who knows, maybe he will earn a recall even though I'd be surprised to see it.

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                    There aren't many good 8s in NZ, Akira will have a chance.

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                      Grace hardly effective at NPC level, Blackadder has been found out at test level ,but with Razor who would no , probably C Drummond at 9

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                      @george33 said in Blues 2024:

                      Grace hardly effective at NPC level, Blackadder has been found out at test level ,but with Razor who would no , probably C Drummond at 9

                      LOL. That's untrue and you know it.

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                        Behind Savea : Jacobson, Grace, Sotutu, Ioane. Uncapped : Parker, Lio Willie, Suafoa, Lakai, Flanders, Michaele-Tuu.

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                          Behind Savea : Jacobson, Grace, Sotutu, Ioane. Uncapped : Parker, Lio Willie, Suafoa, Lakai, Flanders, Michaele-Tuu.

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                          Michaele-Tuu Playing over seas next season.

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                            Behind Savea : Jacobson, Grace, Sotutu, Ioane. Uncapped : Parker, Lio Willie, Suafoa, Lakai, Flanders, Michaele-Tuu.

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                            @cgrant said in Blues 2024:

                            Behind Savea : Jacobson, Grace, Sotutu, Ioane. Uncapped : Parker, Lio Willie, Suafoa, Lakai, Flanders, Michaele-Tuu.

                            Sotutu out of favour, Grace perpetually injured, Ioane has a chance.
                            Isn't Suafoa more a 6 and Lakai quite small for an AB 8? Is Flanders a specialist 8?

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                              @cgrant said in Blues 2024:

                              Behind Savea : Jacobson, Grace, Sotutu, Ioane. Uncapped : Parker, Lio Willie, Suafoa, Lakai, Flanders, Michaele-Tuu.

                              Sotutu out of favour, Grace perpetually injured, Ioane has a chance.
                              Isn't Suafoa more a 6 and Lakai quite small for an AB 8? Is Flanders a specialist 8?

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                              @nostrildamus
                              Lakai is very small ,probably put him in the Jordon Taufua category
                              I have a bit of time for Devon Flanders ,in the modern game especially with scrum rules he is so quick off the back
                              Work rate is out the gate can also be used as a line-out option ,very intelligent player
                              Hoping that Razzor reverts back to a specialist number number 8

                              Have a bit of time for Cameron Sufua ,just gives you gain line every time ,hands can be a bit suspect and lateral tackling needs a bit of looking at.

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                                @nostrildamus
                                Lakai is very small ,probably put him in the Jordon Taufua category
                                I have a bit of time for Devon Flanders ,in the modern game especially with scrum rules he is so quick off the back
                                Work rate is out the gate can also be used as a line-out option ,very intelligent player
                                Hoping that Razzor reverts back to a specialist number number 8

                                Have a bit of time for Cameron Sufua ,just gives you gain line every time ,hands can be a bit suspect and lateral tackling needs a bit of looking at.

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                                @Steven-Harris said in Blues 2024:

                                @nostrildamus
                                Lakai is very small ,probably put him in the Jordon Taufua category
                                I have a bit of time for Devon Flanders ,in the modern game especially with scrum rules he is so quick off the back
                                Work rate is out the gate can also be used as a line-out option ,very intelligent player
                                Hoping that Razzor reverts back to a specialist number number 8

                                Have a bit of time for Cameron Sufua ,just gives you gain line every time ,hands can be a bit suspect and lateral tackling needs a bit of looking at.

                                yes 8 will be interesting, they have some gainline busters, I imagine they will want someone good in the lineout with 2 of our locks leaving..

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                                • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                  @cgrant said in Blues 2024:

                                  Behind Savea : Jacobson, Grace, Sotutu, Ioane. Uncapped : Parker, Lio Willie, Suafoa, Lakai, Flanders, Michaele-Tuu.

                                  Sotutu out of favour, Grace perpetually injured, Ioane has a chance.
                                  Isn't Suafoa more a 6 and Lakai quite small for an AB 8? Is Flanders a specialist 8?

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                                  @nostrildamus said in Blues 2024:

                                  Is Flanders a specialist 8?

                                  Yes, the Canes just haven't used him there enough, because he's a good blindside, too, and they had Ardie at 8.
                                  During the NPC, he always plays at 8, with MMT moving to 6. I hope that, with Ardie not there in 2024, he'll become the incumbent no. 8 for the Canes. The main thing is that he's playing though.

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                                    Getting back to Akira, Cotter will need to make an important decision on who is the starting no.8. It will be hard to push for an AB spot in a position you are not regularly playing for your SR team.

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                                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                      Getting back to Akira, Cotter will need to make an important decision on who is the starting no.8. It will be hard to push for an AB spot in a position you are not regularly playing for your SR team.

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                                      @Bovidae said in Blues 2024:

                                      Getting back to Akira, Cotter will need to make an important decision on who is the starting no.8. It will be hard to push for an AB spot in a position you are not regularly playing for your SR team.

                                      But Jordan!

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                                        More seriously, I agree, an 8 needs time there. But this refers to Luke Jacobson as well.

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                                        • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                          @Bovidae said in Blues 2024:

                                          Getting back to Akira, Cotter will need to make an important decision on who is the starting no.8. It will be hard to push for an AB spot in a position you are not regularly playing for your SR team.

                                          But Jordan!

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                                          @nostrildamus Wings/fullbacks are more interchangeable. The roles of a 6 and 8 are quite different.

                                          Jacobson is the Chiefs no.8.

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