RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina
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Predictable outcome. Good margin which reflects some individual brilliance (A Smith, Jordan) built off the back of the basics: set piece dominance and accuracy at the breakdown.
The question must be asked: Did Mo'unga look up to see an unmarked Jordan and say "fuck you bro - you've already got 3 tries!" because otherwise that was a try brutally murdered.
@NTA said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
set piece dominance
I will make a point about this with regard more to the officiating. I thought the ABs had the upper hand at scrum time, but also got some favourable decisions.
51:17 - EdG elbow pointing down, he overextends and hits the deck. ABs get the penalty for Argentina collapsing?
No help from the touchie there I will say as it was obvious live, but Gardner was on the other side.We've got to take important things into consideration here:
@Kiwiwomble said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
its scumming 101 to keep your elbow up to keep your shoulders square....elbow down = shoulder down = collapse
I know, right? :grinning_face:
There was another scrum one of the props overextended and put a knee on the deck but I think it was play on, thankfully.
What do these things mean? Nothing for this result. Against South Africa though they'll need to tighten up.
Massive for Gardner as I think it will finish any chance he had at the final. Not accurate enough.
I'd also comment that Dalton was off the side of the scrum early, nearly every time he packed down.
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@Machpants not too loud 🤫
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@Steven-Harris said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@MN5 it’s a common theme from a Lot of neutrals on twitter some journalists and ex players who should know better
Schalk Burgers tweet surprised me
Funnily enough most of it out of Ireland and AfricaWhat did Burger say ?
@MN5 Ref blaming ,will find the post and pop it up ,was a bit surprising coming from Schalk
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Ref missed about half a dozen off the ball tackles by the Argies and did nothing about it, so we adapted and did it too. Was ridiculous how many times we had players taken out early on. Ref performance wasn't biased, he seemed more interested in keeping the game going. How about Jordan being taken out, if we'd done that, we'd have a 100% yellow. What does it take for us to get a favourable call in those circumstance, a beheading?
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I literally know not one person, from any country, who doesn’t think walrus is anything but a miserable old bore.
Put him to pasture, he’s a bygone relic.
I thought Gardner was quite poor honestly, and didn’t really ref the game. But both sides took advantage of it.
7 tries to zip. Nothing else relevant.
@MajorRage so who is your top 5 refs ..?
Because it just seems after every game there’s an issue with the on the day official -
@MN5 it’s a common theme from a Lot of neutrals on twitter some journalists and ex players who should know better
Schalk Burgers tweet surprised me
Funnily enough most of it out of Ireland and Africa@Steven-Harris he’s worried
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Solid win.
Great to watch a game where the opposition don't run players in front of the ball.
Hungus Mo'unga better not do that in the final.
A Barrett getting a card, hopefully they've collectively got that out of their system now.
Had the 3 Aussie commentators, one of them is such a whiny bitch, so much so that the other two have to correct him multiple times when he says stupid things about the ABs.
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@MN5 it’s a common theme from a Lot of neutrals on twitter some journalists and ex players who should know better
Schalk Burgers tweet surprised me
Funnily enough most of it out of Ireland and Africa@Steven-Harris I imagine he didn’t have much to say about the ref after the France game
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@MajorRage so who is your top 5 refs ..?
Because it just seems after every game there’s an issue with the on the day official@Steven-Harris I was surprised Luke Pearce didn’t get tonight’s game. Gardner was a weird call
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@stodders said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
https://x.com/skalabrak/status/1715453801346281633?s=46&t=Xyr9rqvpyxuZ6mu4OxMcYA
Certainly not Walrus level…..but disappointing from Schalk.
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always easier being critical of the ref being bias when you have no skin in the game and there is a massive underdog, just look at many of the pool games.
Too many average refs out there at present unfortunately, although the complexity of the rules doesnt help them much either.
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Other notes I made in my head while watching:
If Telea starts, he's going to get bombed all day. Fabulous runner in contact, but doesn't look assured under the high ball, particularly in traffic.
Pressure game from ABs was good, but their defence was hardly tested. The Pumas played a wide game, only realising later on that punching it up in close was better for retention, metres, and drawing penalties.
The effort of running that wide game showed as they ran out of legs and out of ideas. Hunger in the AB defence was palpable - no tries is a good outcome considering some of the line breaks but gee they looked like a Cheika-coached team. Should have started in closer IMHO and used a couple of decoys.
There was a notable period toward the end of the first half where the ABs looked like they were doing prep work for their next opponent: ball kept close, working on pick n go often for centimetres. That is a good sign when they could have just chucked it to Jordan and let him score another one.
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My preferred outcome from here: Boks lose controversially and ABs beat England in the final.
Any time the Boks lose controversially, it is funny. Hilarious, even. Especially when it isn't against the ABs.
And then Argentina win 3rd
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My preferred outcome from here: Boks lose controversially and ABs beat England in the final.
Any time the Boks lose controversially, it is funny. Hilarious, even. Especially when it isn't against the ABs.
And then Argentina win 3rd
@NTA said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
My preferred outcome from here: Boks lose controversially and ABs beat England in the final.
Any time the Boks lose controversially, it is funny. Hilarious, even. Especially when it isn't against the ABs.
And then Argentina win 3rd
As long as we win, I'm good with that
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@NTA said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
My preferred outcome from here: Boks lose controversially and ABs beat England in the final.
Any time the Boks lose controversially, it is funny. Hilarious, even. Especially when it isn't against the ABs.
And then Argentina win 3rd
As long as we win, I'm good with that
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@MiketheSnow and @Billy-Tell hope you enjoyed the game. Let us know your thoughts when you get time
@stodders said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:
@MiketheSnow and @Billy-Tell hope you enjoyed the game. Let us know your thoughts when you get time
Firstly I love the stade de France. It’s an amazing stadium. The only thing that would make it better was if it was a pure rugby stadium then you wouldn’t have the gap to the seats that is created by a round pitch.
The ABs currently look really well coached. The only off note was the short distances on the touch finders. At the ground you see how well smith organises the team. Rieko was doing that a fair bit too. The starting props were pure class. Frizzell also gets really stuck into the defence.
We had Irish lads in front of us, Argentinians around us but bumped into a heap of kiwis on the metro home and they were great.
I’d be very confident vs England. I’d also be confident vs SA if we dont make the errors the French made.
Telea has a great work rate and his slippery eel yards in close were very useful.
You guys will have seen more detail on the TV but we looked really organised and with a game plan.
