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  • BonesB Bones

    SBW on the grid walk 🤣

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    @Bones said in Formula 1:

    SBW on the grid walk 🤣

    He looked enormous next to Lazenby & Karun

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      So can someone explain to me - if no tire is allowed more than 18 laps - how do we get a 3 stop minimum over 57 laps?

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      @Bones said in Formula 1:

      So can someone explain to me - if no tire is allowed more than 18 laps - how do we get a 3 stop minimum over 57 laps?

      ?

      3 * 18 = 54

      So there needed to be 4 sets and 3 stops

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        The only thing that really entertained me was on the first corner.

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          The only thing that really entertained me was on the first corner.

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          @antipodean said in Formula 1:

          The only thing that really entertained me was on the first corner.

          Max won by less than a pit stop, how can you not be entertained. 2nd and 3rd were even on the same straight as him just after he won. Unbelievable

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            Max comes from 6th on the grid to win. Had to nurse the car home on the last couple of laps though

            Any opinions on the Hamilton & Leclerc disqualifications after the race?

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              Just reading up about them now. Not something I'm super familiar with but it makes sense given how much of an advantage you get running a car that low. Must be an absolute nightmare to enforce though.

              Wolff doesn't seem overly bothered about it, so that tells me that they knew they were pushing it:

              ***Wolff: We got it wrong
              Speaking to the media after the decision, Wolff admitted: "Set-up choices on a sprint weekend are always a challenge with just one hour of free practice – and even more so at a bumpy circuit like COTA and running a new package.

              "In the end, all of that doesn't matter – others got it right where we got it wrong and there's no wiggle room in the rules. We need to take it on the chin, do the learning, and come back stronger next weekend.***

              I tend to avoid the US races as they seem to be more about which celebrities are in the paddock than the actual race. Case in point, if I google US Grand prix, 3 of the top 5 stories are that Prince Harry was there. Honestly, who cares?

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                Just reading up about them now. Not something I'm super familiar with but it makes sense given how much of an advantage you get running a car that low. Must be an absolute nightmare to enforce though.

                Wolff doesn't seem overly bothered about it, so that tells me that they knew they were pushing it:

                ***Wolff: We got it wrong
                Speaking to the media after the decision, Wolff admitted: "Set-up choices on a sprint weekend are always a challenge with just one hour of free practice – and even more so at a bumpy circuit like COTA and running a new package.

                "In the end, all of that doesn't matter – others got it right where we got it wrong and there's no wiggle room in the rules. We need to take it on the chin, do the learning, and come back stronger next weekend.***

                I tend to avoid the US races as they seem to be more about which celebrities are in the paddock than the actual race. Case in point, if I google US Grand prix, 3 of the top 5 stories are that Prince Harry was there. Honestly, who cares?

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                @MajorRage

                Mercedes complaints got the floor raised this year.

                Toto’s comments kind of answer what I was curious about, why now, why this race. Sprint weekends with less setup time increases the risk

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                  F1 seems pretty fluid with changes like this so I expect the teams are expected to adapt.

                  You can see why though. Without the allowed upgrades etc we wouldn't have had all the fluidity seen in the chasing pack results wise.

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                    Pretty good explanation of the disqualification

                    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2023/oct/23/formula-one-hamiltons-flawed-floor-how-a-plank-of-wood-clouds-mercedes-us-progress

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                      Four cars selected for inspection.

                      I wonder if Sainz and Russell would’ve failed too if they were inspected

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                          Jeez those were the days, names that resonate, competition. I remember this race

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                              @canefan said in Formula 1:

                              It's a travesty that he doesn't get to drive next year. But F1 is not about ability, it's all about the money

                              Not sure that's true. Yes, there are a few there on money, but the best drivers in the world are in F1, no question.

                              Brendon Hartley has had a huge amount of success but he was around a second a lap slower than his team mate.

                              Lawson wlll get a permanent F1 drive for sure based on his Alpha Tauri drives.

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                              @MajorRage said in Formula 1:

                              Not sure that's true. Yes, there are a few there on money, but the best drivers in the world are in F1, no question.

                              Just seen this and - not sure that's true.

                              Also - yes - question. Some of the best drivers, but some dross as well.

                              Driver selection is largely about money from what I see. Sponsorship, fan numbers, nationality, etc. Some incredibly talented drivers that never even get a look in. Pretty tough for someone with no real money, from a small country, that doesn't have a home GP to get a gig, no matter how good they are. Dixon is (on numbers) the second-best Indy car driver in history and he got one test drive session in F1 (IIRC), so it appeared that he wanted a crack. It is possible that he was so far off that they didn't pursue it, but highly unlikely.

                              I hope Lawson gets a look in as he is clearly gifted. Red Bull are also a brand that associates itself with the best, and a "winners" attitude, so there is hope.

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                                Where do we disagree?

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                                  I don’t think “the best drivers in the world are in F1, no question”.

                                  I question it.

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                                    I don’t think “the best drivers in the world are in F1, no question”.

                                    I question it.

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                                    @Snowy said in Formula 1:

                                    I don’t think “the best drivers in the world are in F1, no question”.

                                    I question it.

                                    Especially the ones that pay the teams to be there

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                                      @Snowy said in Formula 1:

                                      I don’t think “the best drivers in the world are in F1, no question”.

                                      I question it.

                                      Especially the ones that pay the teams to be there

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                                      @Machpants said in Formula 1:

                                      @Snowy said in Formula 1:

                                      I don’t think “the best drivers in the world are in F1, no question”.

                                      I question it.

                                      Especially the ones that pay the teams to be there

                                      Did you read my entire post?

                                      I even say the above.

                                      Sargent snd Stroll are leagues below Verstappen and co. But that doesn’t mean the best drivers aren’t in F1.

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                                        @MajorRage It’s semantics really but a few of the best drivers are in formula one I reckon. A shame that what should be the pinnacle of motor sport doesn’t have all of the best drivers and is diluted because of it. My opinion of course.

                                        Would be fascinating to see a guy like SVG get a go. His NASCAR debut was amazing. McLaughlin slotted into an open wheeler easy enough. Armstrong is bloody good for a youngster and that’s just the kiwis. They only have talent unfortunately and not the other requirements to get a F1 job.

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                                          Max wins again. The highlight was the Alonso v Perez battle

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