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  • CyclopsC Cyclops

    Jets were 0-12 against the eagles in the regular season coming into this game. Their top 3 corners were all injured and we're relying on a practice squad corner with a single career start. Defence still came up with 3 picks and held eagles scoreless in the second half.

    Through 6 games this season I think they've only allowed one second half touchdown. This defence is good everywhere and deep everywhere. The Jets had one of the hardest opening schedules and it will soften considerably from here. On the other hand, their two easiest opponents so far (pats and broncos, contenders for worst team in the league) have been ugly performances. This team feels like it plays to the level of it's opposition. Bye next week and then a rubbish Giants team. Will be a good test of whether this win gives the momentum to go on a run or whether they're a mediocre team with an elite defence that's always going to be competitive but their offensive misfires prevent them from winning consistently.

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    @Cyclops i'm reasonably confident that the offence would look a lot better with Rodgers tossing passes

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      Probably would, and even if he wasn't top 10 anymore, he's probably good enough still.

      He was moving freely on the sideline today - even threw a few passes. I don't believe for a second that he's back this season, but he clearly seems to. Imagine scraping in as a wild card and being able to bring Rodgers back from IR.

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      • CyclopsC Cyclops

        Jets were 0-12 against the eagles in the regular season coming into this game. Their top 3 corners were all injured and we're relying on a practice squad corner with a single career start. Defence still came up with 3 picks and held eagles scoreless in the second half.

        Through 6 games this season I think they've only allowed one second half touchdown. This defence is good everywhere and deep everywhere. The Jets had one of the hardest opening schedules and it will soften considerably from here. On the other hand, their two easiest opponents so far (pats and broncos, contenders for worst team in the league) have been ugly performances. This team feels like it plays to the level of it's opposition. Bye next week and then a rubbish Giants team. Will be a good test of whether this win gives the momentum to go on a run or whether they're a mediocre team with an elite defence that's always going to be competitive but their offensive misfires prevent them from winning consistently.

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        @Cyclops good win - never gave up. Ridiculous finish - hung in there and then sudden INT and TD with less than 2 to go. Then a big defensive play - physical as anything.

        Fun day again. Redzone is the shit.

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          First half of MNF is fucking dire. Flags, and shit offence

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          • CyclopsC Cyclops

            Purdy's first loss when he starts and finishes a game. Looked rocky as well.

            This 49ers team is a monster when they're up, but maybe some signs of vulnerability if they get behind? Saw a stat that prior to this game they'd be behind on the scoreboard for less than 2 minutes.

            Some key injuries didn't help though.

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            @Cyclops said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

            This 49ers team is a monster when they're up, but maybe some signs of vulnerability if they get behind?

            Interestingly I think all time Kyle Shanahan vs Cleveland Defensive Coordinator Jim Schwartz his record is now 1 win 9 losses. Schwartz has the secret source to stop the Shanahan offense.

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              Never really got into NFL but have a trip to the US early next month to Chicago for a conference. Staying around for an extra two days and one night there is Bears vs Panthers. Two shit teams by the sounds of things but given I supported the warriors in the nrl since day dot that shouldn't be an issue to handle.

              Looking to make the most out of the experience. What's the deal with tailgating? Can you just rock up to where one is and have a look? Does everyone keep to themselves or what?

              Will likely be going alone which im not worried about and google says best way to get better tickets is last minute on stubhub etc. Is there a huge drop off in experience from the most bleeds section to the middle tier section? I'm thinking in places like suncorp stadium there aren't many bad seats in the stadium for viewing experience.

              Sincerely the bears newest fan.

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                no idea, i am just jealous

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                  lo scoring league this year. Teams are not giving up the deep ball, so offence has turned in to a slog. Unless you are the Dolphins, but even a lot of their yards are catch and run.

                  QBs are having to earn their money. O-lines are under pressure as QBs need more and more time. Lots of short yardage plays. Lots of run.

                  Sport always finds a way to swing back if you give it time.

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                  • Magpie_in_ausM Magpie_in_aus

                    Never really got into NFL but have a trip to the US early next month to Chicago for a conference. Staying around for an extra two days and one night there is Bears vs Panthers. Two shit teams by the sounds of things but given I supported the warriors in the nrl since day dot that shouldn't be an issue to handle.

                    Looking to make the most out of the experience. What's the deal with tailgating? Can you just rock up to where one is and have a look? Does everyone keep to themselves or what?

                    Will likely be going alone which im not worried about and google says best way to get better tickets is last minute on stubhub etc. Is there a huge drop off in experience from the most bleeds section to the middle tier section? I'm thinking in places like suncorp stadium there aren't many bad seats in the stadium for viewing experience.

                    Sincerely the bears newest fan.

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                    #1737

                    @Magpie_in_aus I would recommend going on a Bears internet forum or their Reddit page and asking - they will be more than helpful. Typically tailgating they are very welcoming to new people. Given Soldier Field's location so close to the city i'm not sure how big tailgating scene is but definitely worth asking. You could also ask them about tickets. Soldier field is on the smaller side of NFL stadiums so I reckon you would be fine with waiting until later on (i.e. even the nosebleeds aren't that far away - particularly with Panthers being a non-rival and relatively bad team.

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                      Interesting weekend of results. 49ers lose again to slip to 5-2. Purdy struggling again when the 49ers are behind and he's forced to try and create.

                      Meanwhile, the dolphins lose to the eagles to drop to 5-2. Notably, they're 0-2 against teams with a winning record - are they as good as they've looked or are they a mirage propped up by a soft early schedule? I think they're not as good as they've looked early on, but are genuine contenders. AFC East is suddenly wide open with the bills dropping a game against the pats as well.

                      The AFC north might be the best division in Football. Bengals are last with. 3-3 record. Browns might have the best defence in the league if only they could get some consistent QB play to go with it.

                      Broncos even got a win. Jordan Love came storming out of the blocks but is falling back. After 40 years of HOF calibre QB play will the Packers finally feel the pain of a QB hunt?

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                      • CyclopsC Cyclops

                        Interesting weekend of results. 49ers lose again to slip to 5-2. Purdy struggling again when the 49ers are behind and he's forced to try and create.

                        Meanwhile, the dolphins lose to the eagles to drop to 5-2. Notably, they're 0-2 against teams with a winning record - are they as good as they've looked or are they a mirage propped up by a soft early schedule? I think they're not as good as they've looked early on, but are genuine contenders. AFC East is suddenly wide open with the bills dropping a game against the pats as well.

                        The AFC north might be the best division in Football. Bengals are last with. 3-3 record. Browns might have the best defence in the league if only they could get some consistent QB play to go with it.

                        Broncos even got a win. Jordan Love came storming out of the blocks but is falling back. After 40 years of HOF calibre QB play will the Packers finally feel the pain of a QB hunt?

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                        @Cyclops said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

                        Broncos even got a win

                        God it was just an awful game, make no mistake, we fucking suck.

                        Niners losing today to Prime Time Kirk a pretty big shock.
                        The Bills dropping a game to the Patriots is the other shock you missed.
                        Oh, and the previously flying Lions getting smacked by the Ravens

                        I feel like it's the Chiefs' to lose. They have a better defence than last year, and still have Mahomes.
                        There are a LOT of flawed teams this year

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                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                          @Cyclops said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

                          Broncos even got a win

                          God it was just an awful game, make no mistake, we fucking suck.

                          Niners losing today to Prime Time Kirk a pretty big shock.
                          The Bills dropping a game to the Patriots is the other shock you missed.
                          Oh, and the previously flying Lions getting smacked by the Ravens

                          I feel like it's the Chiefs' to lose. They have a better defence than last year, and still have Mahomes.
                          There are a LOT of flawed teams this year

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                          @mariner4life Cousins made some seriously good throws.

                          How the Vikes have no running game astonishes me. They sucked.

                          Pats played well - I saw most of redzone, was good fun. NFL is great to watch this year I reckon

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                            Purdy goes into the concussion protocol. Sam Darnold now gets opportunity number 3 to be an NFL QB. Although Shanahan hasn't ruled him out yet. Bengals should be a fun match up - so much offensive fire power between those two teams.

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                            • CyclopsC Cyclops

                              Purdy goes into the concussion protocol. Sam Darnold now gets opportunity number 3 to be an NFL QB. Although Shanahan hasn't ruled him out yet. Bengals should be a fun match up - so much offensive fire power between those two teams.

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                              @Cyclops burrow is silk when fit. So good to watch

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                                week to week league.
                                Denver beat the Chiefs
                                Bengals smack the Niners

                                Eagles now alone with the best record in the league

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                                  week to week league.
                                  Denver beat the Chiefs
                                  Bengals smack the Niners

                                  Eagles now alone with the best record in the league

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                                  @mariner4life said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

                                  week to week league.
                                  Denver beat the Chiefs
                                  Bengals smack the Niners

                                  Eagles now alone with the best record in the league

                                  We are playing some high risk stuff at times but man we look good. Hurts is leading well, but our rush game has been a scoring weapon. The loss against the Jets a few weeks ago has some quite outlier stats to how the rest of the season has gone.

                                  Keep on keeping on.

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                                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                    week to week league.
                                    Denver beat the Chiefs
                                    Bengals smack the Niners

                                    Eagles now alone with the best record in the league

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                                    @mariner4life said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

                                    Eagles now alone with the best record in the league

                                    Eagles tush push is an absolute weapon. Gets them clutch 3rd/4th downs most weeks, and it's so hard to stop.

                                    All that said, and it didn't work this morning 🙂

                                    This is apex entertainment at the moment, am really enjoying watching

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                                      Red zone really does a fantastic job of presenting the sport in its best light - none of the faffing about with ads, just non stop action.

                                      Jets - Giants was on tvnv sport this morning and I wasn't able to watch it live, so watched it delayed. Fantastic experience (although a dreadful game) because I could just fast forward through the breaks.

                                      Jets Giants game was described as 'the best ugly game'. Two offenses stunk. Not a single third down conversion in the first half and only 3 (I think, maybe there was an extra couple late) in the second. Headline stat: Giants had -9 passing yards for the game. No that's not a typo. Taylor went down early and the third string QB wasn't up to running the game plan. Next time we dump on a low end starter or a back up, go watch the poor kid (NFL debut probably without even having taken a snap with the starters) struggle and realise just how good a bad QB is and how ridiculous a good one is.

                                      Anyway, I was sure -9 would be a record (at least post merger) but nope. In 2021 there was a game with -21 passing yards. Who by? The giants. Crazy coincidence.

                                      As a Jets fan I've got used to us contriving idiotic ways to lose a game (see last year's 10-3 loss to the pats on a 70ish yard punt return), so it's a nice surprise that for once we managed to pull out a win in unlikely circumstances - at one point ESPN gave the giants a 99.9% chance to win.

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                                      • CyclopsC Cyclops

                                        Red zone really does a fantastic job of presenting the sport in its best light - none of the faffing about with ads, just non stop action.

                                        Jets - Giants was on tvnv sport this morning and I wasn't able to watch it live, so watched it delayed. Fantastic experience (although a dreadful game) because I could just fast forward through the breaks.

                                        Jets Giants game was described as 'the best ugly game'. Two offenses stunk. Not a single third down conversion in the first half and only 3 (I think, maybe there was an extra couple late) in the second. Headline stat: Giants had -9 passing yards for the game. No that's not a typo. Taylor went down early and the third string QB wasn't up to running the game plan. Next time we dump on a low end starter or a back up, go watch the poor kid (NFL debut probably without even having taken a snap with the starters) struggle and realise just how good a bad QB is and how ridiculous a good one is.

                                        Anyway, I was sure -9 would be a record (at least post merger) but nope. In 2021 there was a game with -21 passing yards. Who by? The giants. Crazy coincidence.

                                        As a Jets fan I've got used to us contriving idiotic ways to lose a game (see last year's 10-3 loss to the pats on a 70ish yard punt return), so it's a nice surprise that for once we managed to pull out a win in unlikely circumstances - at one point ESPN gave the giants a 99.9% chance to win.

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                                        @Cyclops red zone is awesome.

                                        More than anything, the analysis that goes on in NFL is superb. Real critique and observations, by smart people. The contrast with rugby could not be stronger.

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                                          I was worried about Wilks as a defensive coordinator hire by the 49ers and the fears are being realised

                                          His coaching history is a lot of short stints - and not that many as a dedicated defensive coordinator - and not that much success.

                                          49ers defense is underperforming given the talent they have.

                                          It will be telling how the 49ers play after the bye with Deebo and Trent Williams back.

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