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RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks

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    akan004
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    #514

    Richie would be a massive loss if he's unable to recover in time. Don't feel confident at all with DMac and I don't think we can beat them if he's our 10. Damn it, things were looking so good on the injury front.

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      Maybe I have forgotten what it's like to be young, but jeez it's hard to imagine RM going from limping like that to being fit to play - especially given his strength is his agility and acceleration. Looked like his kicking leg too.

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      • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

        Maybe I have forgotten what it's like to be young, but jeez it's hard to imagine RM going from limping like that to being fit to play - especially given his strength is his agility and acceleration. Looked like his kicking leg too.

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        @Crazy-Horse said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

        Maybe I have forgotten what it's like to be young, but jeez it's hard to imagine RM going from limping like that to being fit to play - especially given his strength is his agility and acceleration. Looked like his kicking leg too.

        Pretty sure that video was from a few weeks ago.

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          Yeah that video was before one of the pool matches

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            @Crazy-Horse said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

            Maybe I have forgotten what it's like to be young, but jeez it's hard to imagine RM going from limping like that to being fit to play - especially given his strength is his agility and acceleration. Looked like his kicking leg too.

            Pretty sure that video was from a few weeks ago.

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            @akan004 They are no longer in Lyon and the leaves are browner than that in the Northern Hemisphere.

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            • Billy WebbB Billy Webb

              @Frank said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

              @Billy-Webb said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

              @Frank said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

              @OomPB said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

              @Frank Rassie always produce something exciting for us. They worked since 2018 for this final. Expect the unexpected.

              I don't think you understand my meaning.

              I don't mean something "exciting".

              I mean Bok forwards being pulled off by the coaching staff, pretending it is for an HIA assessment when really it is to give them a rest and bring them back on later when they are "cleared".

              Which I suspect is what happened against France.

              I think @OomPB understood you perfectly.
              As he said - Rassie always produces something exciting for Bok fans 😉

              Will be exciting if Wayne Barnes punishes them for it on the pitch. But I guess that won't happen if it is within the rules.

              And to be fair, if our coach was coming up with smart moves, I'd probably be right behind him.

              The thing with Rassie is that he stays within the laws as they stand at that time.
              He just finds ways to try and get an advantage within those rules all the time. It may not be as the rule was intended, but it is still within the rules.
              If WR doesn't like it - as in the "waterboy" scenario - then they must change the rules.
              But if he is not breaking any rules at the time, the ref can't interfere.

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              @Billy-Webb said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

              @Frank said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

              @Billy-Webb said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

              @Frank said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

              @OomPB said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

              @Frank Rassie always produce something exciting for us. They worked since 2018 for this final. Expect the unexpected.

              I don't think you understand my meaning.

              I don't mean something "exciting".

              I mean Bok forwards being pulled off by the coaching staff, pretending it is for an HIA assessment when really it is to give them a rest and bring them back on later when they are "cleared".

              Which I suspect is what happened against France.

              I think @OomPB understood you perfectly.
              As he said - Rassie always produces something exciting for Bok fans 😉

              Will be exciting if Wayne Barnes punishes them for it on the pitch. But I guess that won't happen if it is within the rules.

              And to be fair, if our coach was coming up with smart moves, I'd probably be right behind him.

              The thing with Rassie is that he stays within the laws as they stand at that time.
              He just finds ways to try and get an advantage within those rules all the time. It may not be as the rule was intended, but it is still within the rules.
              If WR doesn't like it - as in the "waterboy" scenario - then they must change the rules.
              But if he is not breaking any rules at the time, the ref can't interfere.

              You think it’s not against the rules to fake HIAs?

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              • MN5M MN5

                Is Stephen Donald in France at the moment ?

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                @MN5 said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

                Is Stephen Donald in France at the moment ?

                You must have me on mute. Don’t blame you.

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                • sparkyS sparky

                  Where I’m at:

                  If win, bloody brilliant.

                  If we lose, it won’t hurt as much as if we’d lost in 1987, 2011 or 2015. Getting to the Final in such a competitive World Cup is an amazing achievement and better than I expected.

                  Going into this tournament, it felt to me like Ireland and France were the clear favourites, with the Boks, England and ourselves more like dark horses who needed a bit of luck to get over the line.

                  I still think we’ll need a bit more luck.

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                  @sparky said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

                  Where I’m at:

                  If win, bloody brilliant.

                  If we lose, it won’t hurt as much as if we’d lost in 1987, 2011 or 2015. Getting to the Final in such a competitive World Cup is an amazing achievement and better than I expected.

                  Going into this tournament, it felt to me like Ireland and France were the clear favourites, with the Boks, England and ourselves more like dark horses who needed a bit of luck to get over the line.

                  I still think we’ll need a bit more luck.

                  I agree with you. Off to have a sulphuric acid shower.

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                    My take: Want us to win but if SA win they'll be worthy champions and I'll applaud them.

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                    • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                      My take: Want us to win but if SA win they'll be worthy champions and I'll applaud them.

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                      @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

                      My take: Want us to win but if SA win they'll be worthy champions and I'll applaud them.

                      Where’s that belt sander?

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                      • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                        My take: Want us to win but if SA win they'll be worthy champions and I'll applaud them.

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                        @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

                        My take: Want us to win but if SA win they'll be worthy champions and I'll applaud them.

                        Back to back World Cups, in a highly competitive era of international Rugby, would be an enormous achievement.

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                          For the All Blacks, winning three of the four last RWCs would also be an enormous achievement.

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                            pakman
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                            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby-world-cup-2023/300996939/rugby-world-cup-all-blacks-poised-to-upsize-bench-unit-for-final-against-springboks

                            Looks like BBBR to start and Sami T joining Tamaiti and Nepo on bench. They won scrum penalty at end of Mt. Smart. Want Scooter packing behind TW as much as possible.

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                              https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1717338850144710801?s=20

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                                If Nepo wins scrum penalty at end of game I expect @Bones to buy me a beer.

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                                • DuluthD Duluth

                                  Yeah that video was before one of the pool matches

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                                  @Duluth said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

                                  Yeah that video was before one of the pool matches

                                  Thank god for that... Just watcvhed a Justin Marshal preview and he reckons RM is the key... He plays well we win, he doesn't we lose. So got a bit worried when I saw the video.

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                                  • sparkyS sparky

                                    The BBC thinks Ardie Savea is closing in on greatness:

                                    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/67220371

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                                    @sparky said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

                                    The BBC thinks Ardie Savea is closing in on greatness:

                                    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/67220371

                                    Good read.

                                    He would thoroughly deserve it IMHO. They win on Saturday and he must be odds on.

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                                    • D Dodge

                                      @Billy-Webb said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

                                      @Frank said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

                                      @Billy-Webb said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

                                      @Frank said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

                                      @OomPB said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

                                      @Frank Rassie always produce something exciting for us. They worked since 2018 for this final. Expect the unexpected.

                                      I don't think you understand my meaning.

                                      I don't mean something "exciting".

                                      I mean Bok forwards being pulled off by the coaching staff, pretending it is for an HIA assessment when really it is to give them a rest and bring them back on later when they are "cleared".

                                      Which I suspect is what happened against France.

                                      I think @OomPB understood you perfectly.
                                      As he said - Rassie always produces something exciting for Bok fans 😉

                                      Will be exciting if Wayne Barnes punishes them for it on the pitch. But I guess that won't happen if it is within the rules.

                                      And to be fair, if our coach was coming up with smart moves, I'd probably be right behind him.

                                      The thing with Rassie is that he stays within the laws as they stand at that time.
                                      He just finds ways to try and get an advantage within those rules all the time. It may not be as the rule was intended, but it is still within the rules.
                                      If WR doesn't like it - as in the "waterboy" scenario - then they must change the rules.
                                      But if he is not breaking any rules at the time, the ref can't interfere.

                                      You think it’s not against the rules to fake HIAs?

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                                      Billy Webb
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                                      @Dodge said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

                                      @Billy-Webb said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

                                      @Frank said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

                                      @Billy-Webb said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

                                      @Frank said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

                                      @OomPB said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

                                      @Frank Rassie always produce something exciting for us. They worked since 2018 for this final. Expect the unexpected.

                                      I don't think you understand my meaning.

                                      I don't mean something "exciting".

                                      I mean Bok forwards being pulled off by the coaching staff, pretending it is for an HIA assessment when really it is to give them a rest and bring them back on later when they are "cleared".

                                      Which I suspect is what happened against France.

                                      I think @OomPB understood you perfectly.
                                      As he said - Rassie always produces something exciting for Bok fans 😉

                                      Will be exciting if Wayne Barnes punishes them for it on the pitch. But I guess that won't happen if it is within the rules.

                                      And to be fair, if our coach was coming up with smart moves, I'd probably be right behind him.

                                      The thing with Rassie is that he stays within the laws as they stand at that time.
                                      He just finds ways to try and get an advantage within those rules all the time. It may not be as the rule was intended, but it is still within the rules.
                                      If WR doesn't like it - as in the "waterboy" scenario - then they must change the rules.
                                      But if he is not breaking any rules at the time, the ref can't interfere.

                                      You think it’s not against the rules to fake HIAs?

                                      If you're genuinely faking it, then it is at the very least against the spirit of the rule.

                                      But given the (correct imo) focus on the long term risks of playing on with head injuries, who makes that call to check a player out after a head clash? Who decides if an HIA is warranted or not?
                                      If it were my responsibility, I would most definitely err on the side of caution. Your potential liability, never mind the serious risk to the player is simply too big.

                                      So a tough one to police, or for that matter for fans to make judgement on from the sidelines.

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                                        Boks gone for a 7-1 bench

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