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RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks

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  • canefanC canefan

    Aaron Smith should have played the full 80. Cam will be the 9 next year if he continues on his arc

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    @canefan said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

    Aaron Smith should have played the full 80. Cam will be the 9 next year if he continues on his arc

    I'm waiting for all the Head Coach detractors to start claiming Robertson was forced to pick him as Aaron Smith wasn't available...

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    • K kev

      That last scrum on the first hit the SA prop had his hand on the ground. Touchie should have called it.

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      @kev said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

      That last scrum on the first hit the SA prop had his hand on the ground. Touchie should have called it.

      What I find interesting about that setup is that they had the most experienced ref with two of the most INexperienced touchies.

      They hadn't worked as a team this whole world cup, so why now?

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        #1752

        Boks are pretty mediocre team. Certainly not in top two in world, maybe not in top three.

        Result is like a sporting quiz oddity.

        I’d like Foz to come out and say that he thought we were a notch ahead of them tonight, but sport is an odd thing and sometime the lesser team ends up with its name on the trophy.

        Fucking well played ABs. Bloody proud of you.

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        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

          @Victor-Meldrew opening quarter was where we lost it IMO, they dominated us and we had our backs against the wall from there, cards aside.

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          @taniwharugby said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

          @Victor-Meldrew opening quarter was where we lost it IMO, they dominated us and we had our backs against the wall from there, cards aside.

          I thought initially we needed to get out to a lead and make them play catch up ,

          A tight arm wrestle is their bread and butter

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          • D Dodge

            I know no one wants to hear this at this point, but Barnes and his team had a really good game. Couple of decisions could have gone either way as always, I think the Kolisi one should have been red but it hasn’t been since the first week of the tournament so I wasn’t surprised.

            Thought Barnes managed the game and his team of officials brilliantly actually, the contrast of his calm under pressure with last night was stark.

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            @Dodge said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

            I know no one wants to hear this at this point, but Barnes and his team had a really good game. Couple of decisions could have gone either way as always, I think the Kolisi one should have been red but it hasn’t been since the first week of the tournament so I wasn’t surprised.

            Thought Barnes managed the game and his team of officials brilliantly actually, the contrast of his calm under pressure with last night was stark.

            TMO was the villain. Barnes ruled well enough that we could have won. Having said that, fuck me we had chances. Two DG opportunities dead in front that we didn't try to take. To be fair there were 20 minutes to go at the time. But fuck me

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              I agree Barnes wasn’t bad. My issue, as someone else mentioned, is the system of having the TMO intervening uninvited. Technology is ruining the game. It was better when you just had a referee and his two assistants. Call it in real time or let it go.

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              • D Dodge

                I know no one wants to hear this at this point, but Barnes and his team had a really good game. Couple of decisions could have gone either way as always, I think the Kolisi one should have been red but it hasn’t been since the first week of the tournament so I wasn’t surprised.

                Thought Barnes managed the game and his team of officials brilliantly actually, the contrast of his calm under pressure with last night was stark.

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                @Dodge yes and no...I don't like the fact the TMO can call a knock on several phases later after a try has scored, but if no try he ignores other ones...although that is a wider issue than this game.

                SA should have had a RC and another YC for Eben, and that's the frustrating bit, the inconsistencies from the TMO of when to intervene and what to call on, but shit happens.

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                • D Dodge

                  I know no one wants to hear this at this point, but Barnes and his team had a really good game. Couple of decisions could have gone either way as always, I think the Kolisi one should have been red but it hasn’t been since the first week of the tournament so I wasn’t surprised.

                  Thought Barnes managed the game and his team of officials brilliantly actually, the contrast of his calm under pressure with last night was stark.

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                  @Dodge said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

                  I know no one wants to hear this at this point, but Barnes and his team had a really good game. Couple of decisions could have gone either way as always, I think the Kolisi one should have been red but it hasn’t been since the first week of the tournament so I wasn’t surprised.

                  Thought Barnes managed the game and his team of officials brilliantly actually, the contrast of his calm under pressure with last night was stark.

                  Yeah I don’t get the Barnes hate. We could have won but threw the odd forced pass etc which cost us. Don’t think the ref was the cause of the loss.

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                    Two knockout games and a final for SA and they didn't deserve to win any of them. Ironically, for the one game the did lose, it could be argued they didn't deserve to lose.

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                      Without a hint of hyperbole I no longer love the game after that.

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                      • TimT Away
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                        Papalii will be the captain next year.

                        Taukei'aho will be hooker.

                        NZ will start their best players, finally.

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                        • P pakman

                          Boks are pretty mediocre team. Certainly not in top two in world, maybe not in top three.

                          Result is like a sporting quiz oddity.

                          I’d like Foz to come out and say that he thought we were a notch ahead of them tonight, but sport is an odd thing and sometime the lesser team ends up with its name on the trophy.

                          Fucking well played ABs. Bloody proud of you.

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                          @pakman said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

                          Boks are pretty mediocre team. Certainly not in top two in world, maybe not in top three.

                          Result is like a sporting quiz oddity.

                          I’d like Foz to come out and say that he thought we were a notch ahead of them tonight, but sport is an odd thing and sometime the lesser team ends up with its name on the trophy.

                          Fucking well played ABs. Bloody proud of you.

                          I’m not sure how you can say this about a team that has won three incredibly tight games in a row

                          Hats off to them and congratulations to them. They know how to win when it counts.

                          Amazing stuff

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                          • D Dodge

                            I know no one wants to hear this at this point, but Barnes and his team had a really good game. Couple of decisions could have gone either way as always, I think the Kolisi one should have been red but it hasn’t been since the first week of the tournament so I wasn’t surprised.

                            Thought Barnes managed the game and his team of officials brilliantly actually, the contrast of his calm under pressure with last night was stark.

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                            @Dodge

                            I thought he was fine. He missed 1 or two things (on both sides) but overall was pretty good.

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                            • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                              @Dodge said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

                              I know no one wants to hear this at this point, but Barnes and his team had a really good game. Couple of decisions could have gone either way as always, I think the Kolisi one should have been red but it hasn’t been since the first week of the tournament so I wasn’t surprised.

                              Thought Barnes managed the game and his team of officials brilliantly actually, the contrast of his calm under pressure with last night was stark.

                              Yeah I don’t get the Barnes hate. We could have won but threw the odd forced pass etc which cost us. Don’t think the ref was the cause of the loss.

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                              @Billy-Tell 14 on 14 we'd have won. This is on him and the fuckstick TMO.

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                                Geez, to come so close. Congratulations SA. And thank you Foz, all the squad and the support staff, you did us proud and it’s been an amazing journey to get to this point.

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                                • MN5M MN5

                                  @pakman said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

                                  Boks are pretty mediocre team. Certainly not in top two in world, maybe not in top three.

                                  Result is like a sporting quiz oddity.

                                  I’d like Foz to come out and say that he thought we were a notch ahead of them tonight, but sport is an odd thing and sometime the lesser team ends up with its name on the trophy.

                                  Fucking well played ABs. Bloody proud of you.

                                  I’m not sure how you can say this about a team that has won three incredibly tight games in a row

                                  Hats off to them and congratulations to them. They know how to win when it counts.

                                  Amazing stuff

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                                  @MN5 said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

                                  @pakman said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

                                  Boks are pretty mediocre team. Certainly not in top two in world, maybe not in top three.

                                  Result is like a sporting quiz oddity.

                                  I’d like Foz to come out and say that he thought we were a notch ahead of them tonight, but sport is an odd thing and sometime the lesser team ends up with its name on the trophy.

                                  Fucking well played ABs. Bloody proud of you.

                                  I’m not sure how you can say this about a team that has won three incredibly tight games in a row

                                  Yup it's rope a dope, they let their opponents defeat themselves. And it works

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                                    Shattered but more so for Cane and Foster. They deserved better.

                                    I was depressed last week after England had blown it. The last opponent you want in a final is SA, especially with Rassie and Siya in charge. I think we would have beaten England.

                                    The worst way to lose, but am so proud of the boys.

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                                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                      @Victor-Meldrew opening quarter was where we lost it IMO, they dominated us and we had our backs against the wall from there, cards aside.

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                                      @taniwharugby said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

                                      @Victor-Meldrew opening quarter was where we lost it IMO, they dominated us and we had our backs against the wall from there, cards aside.

                                      I thought we lost it through out the game with errors, small decisions, goal kicking. We were always in it.

                                      But the main takeaway is that the balance of rugby is off - kicking dominates, the current card system makes games a lottery, head contact is problem.

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                                      • boobooB booboo

                                        @sparky said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

                                        Why was Sam Cane sent off but not Kolisi?

                                        Because Inspiration such a great story Golden Boy.

                                        I'm not bitter.

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                                        @booboo said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

                                        @sparky said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

                                        Why was Sam Cane sent off but not Kolisi?

                                        Because Inspiration such a great story Golden Boy.

                                        I'm not bitter.

                                        Siya "Madiba" Kolisi

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                                        • TimT Tim

                                          Papalii will be the captain next year.

                                          Taukei'aho will be hooker.

                                          NZ will start their best players, finally.

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                                          @Tim said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

                                          Papalii will be the captain next year.

                                          Taukei'aho will be hooker.

                                          NZ will start their best players, finally.

                                          Yawn. I’m off to bed.

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